Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS - NOT

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-13 18:32, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/13/2020 04:53 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I shut down the system last night. I can boot debian 7 (sda) and run linuxcnc from the distro. Everything comes up and seems normal. But, on boot into debian 10 (sdb), it drops into the console login.  I

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS - NOT

2020-02-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 13 February 2020 21:32:30 Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/13/2020 04:53 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > > I shut down the system last night. > > > > I can boot debian 7 (sda) and run linuxcnc from the > > distro. Everything comes up and seems normal. > > > > But, on boot into debian 10 (sdb), it

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS - NOT

2020-02-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/13/2020 04:53 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I shut down the system last night. I can boot debian 7 (sda) and run linuxcnc from the distro. Everything comes up and seems normal. But, on boot into debian 10 (sdb), it drops into the console login. I can startx, but, the display is

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS - NOT

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I shut down the system last night. I can boot debian 7 (sda) and run linuxcnc from the distro. Everything comes up and seems normal. But, on boot into debian 10 (sdb), it drops into the console login. I can startx, but, the display is background only. I can switch to another console,

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS

2020-02-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 13 February 2020 09:57:08 andy pugh wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 05:10, Thomas D. Dean > wrote: > > python-gtksourceview2_2.10.1-3_amd64.deb from > > > packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/python-gtksourceview2/download > > actual from > >

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS

2020-02-13 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 05:10, Thomas D. Dean wrote: python-gtksourceview2_2.10.1-3_amd64.deb from > packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/python-gtksourceview2/download > actual from > packages.debian.org/stretch/amd64/python-gtksourceview2/download > libvte-common_0.28.2-5_all.deb >

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 13:44, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 13:39, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 I followed this series of emails.

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 13:44, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 13:39, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 These two URL's show Error No such package.

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 13:39, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 These two URL's show Error No such package.

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 These two URL's show Error No such package. packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/python-gtksourceview2/download

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 I saw this last night. I plan to try this, today. Thanks, Tom Dean ___ Emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Robert Murphy
Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 On 12/2/20 2:24 pm, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-05 01:57, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 04:25, Thomas D. Dean wrote: How do I do a clean install of buster rtai

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-11 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-05 01:57, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 04:25, Thomas D. Dean wrote: How do I do a clean install of buster rtai and llinuxcnc? Experimental at the moment. But: 1) Install Buster 2) Download the .debs at www.linuxcnc.org/temp 3) Install the Linux-image and Linux-headers

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-09 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-08 20:50, R C wrote: I saw linuxcnc 2.9.x mentioned a few times. where can it be downloaded from? thanks, I was building from sources. Next week, I have time to try it again. Need to repair my computer, first... Tom Dean ___

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-08 Thread Phill Carter
> On 9 Feb 2020, at 3:50 pm, R C wrote: > > I saw linuxcnc 2.9.x mentioned a few times. 2.9 is the development branch so it is being constantly changed 2.8 will be the next official release, it is currently having the final touches done 2.7 is the stable release branch > > > where can it

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-08 Thread R C
I saw linuxcnc 2.9.x mentioned a few times. where can it be downloaded from? thanks, Ron On 2/4/20 9:23 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-04 07:40, Stuart Stevenson wrote: A number of years ago (circa 2000) I experienced problems with updating to a new version of Linux. This was on

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-05 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-05 01:57, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 04:25, Thomas D. Dean wrote: How do I do a clean install of buster rtai and llinuxcnc? Experimental at the moment. But: 1) Install Buster 2) Download the .debs at www.linuxcnc.org/temp 3) Install the Linux-image and Linux-headers

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-05 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 04:25, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > How do I do a clean install of buster rtai and llinuxcnc? Experimental at the moment. But: 1) Install Buster 2) Download the .debs at www.linuxcnc.org/temp 3) Install the Linux-image and Linux-headers debs sudo apt-get install

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
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Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-03 03:34, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 07:07, Thomas D. Dean wrote: The hang was on initial linuxcnc startup. No toolpath was loaded. I can only think of a few possibilities. (I am not saying that there are not many others, I am saying that my imagination is limited)

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-04 07:40, Stuart Stevenson wrote: A number of years ago (circa 2000) I experienced problems with updating to a new version of Linux. This was on SuSe and Redhat. You can never be sure what is broken but you can always be sure something is broken. I always do a clean install now. How

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-04 Thread Stuart Stevenson
A number of years ago (circa 2000) I experienced problems with updating to a new version of Linux. This was on SuSe and Redhat. You can never be sure what is broken but you can always be sure something is broken. I always do a clean install now. I haven't tried it on any current version and don't

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-03 Thread N
In synaptic, the dialog about where to get packages on the tab updates, there is text "buster/updates" and "buster-updates" so I guess it must be buster. /proc/version claim it is (Debian 8.3.0-6) > On 2020-02-02 22:06, N wrote: > > > Pretty sure I use buster on several machines. > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-03 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 07:07, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > The hang was on initial linuxcnc startup. No toolpath was loaded. I can only think of a few possibilities. (I am not saying that there are not many others, I am saying that my imagination is limited) One obvious difference between running

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-03 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 2020-02-02 17:00, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/02/2020 05:04 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-01 20:46, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly.  Before today, about

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-02 17:00, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/02/2020 05:04 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-01 20:46, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly.  Before today, about

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-02 22:06, N wrote: Pretty sure I use buster on several machines. You use linuxcnc with buster? Tom Dean ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread N
> On 2020-02-01 20:46, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >> I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. > >> Until today, it has worked, mostly.  Before today, about 2x per week > >> it would freeze and I had to cycle power to get it

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-02 17:02, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/02/2020 06:32 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: So the problem started right after you upgraded to the new RTAI kernel? That's where I'd look for a problem first. Ohhh!  I NEVER, EVER, update the kernel on a LinuxCNC system. In fact, I NEVER

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/02/2020 06:32 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: So the problem started right after you upgraded to the new RTAI kernel? That's where I'd look for a problem first. Ohhh! I NEVER, EVER, update the kernel on a LinuxCNC system. In fact, I NEVER update the kernel on ANY Linux system

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/02/2020 05:04 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-01 20:46, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly. Before today, about 2x per week it would freeze and I had

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 2/1/20 10:23 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-01 20:46, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly.  Before today, about 2x per week it would freeze and I had to

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-01 20:46, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly.  Before today, about 2x per week it would freeze and I had to cycle power to get it working.  Now,

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-01 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-01 20:46, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly.  Before today, about 2x per week it would freeze and I had to cycle power to get it working.  Now,

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly. Before today, about 2x per week it would freeze and I had to cycle power to get it working. Now, linuxcnc freezes. Does it ONLY freeze when

[Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-01 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly. Before today, about 2x per week it would freeze and I had to cycle power to get it working. Now, linuxcnc freezes. After fixing a problem with apt database, > sudo apt update > sudo apt