Re: [E-devel] e17 segv

2005-10-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:19:46 +1300 jochen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:55:37 +1300 jochen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > > > >>OK, I just rebuild all of EFL and E with the above flags and the error > >>is gone, so it se

Re: [E-devel] e17 segv

2005-10-21 Thread jochen
jochen wrote: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:55:37 +1300 jochen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: >> >> >> >>>OK, I just rebuild all of EFL and E with the above flags and the error >>>is gone, so it seems it was a optimization bug, and I thought I was >>>conservati

Re: [E-devel] e17 segv

2005-10-21 Thread jochen
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:55:37 +1300 jochen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > >>OK, I just rebuild all of EFL and E with the above flags and the error >>is gone, so it seems it was a optimization bug, and I thought I was >>conservative with the optimization.

Re: [E-devel] Entropy, EFM, Evidence: Why three?

2005-10-21 Thread Alexander Taylor
As david said, there is a wealth of difference between EFM and Entropy (the external (non-wm-integral) file manager that I am creating. EFM will be much more integrated into the window manager itself (at least for the time being) - and CodeWarrior is doing a great job in this regard. Entropy is

Re: [E-devel] e17 segv

2005-10-21 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:30:54 +1300 jochen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Seikel wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:20:03 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'll be busy with the witch 1 hunt on the weekend. But since I have > > lots of distros here, I

Re: [E-devel] Menu usability.

2005-10-21 Thread jochen
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:28:20 +1300 jochen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > >>Ah well I guess I have to learn to use ctrl-alt x instead, or just keep >>a little patch for the default theme which reverts the reordering. menu >>order is a theme thing isn't i

Re: [E-devel] e17 segv

2005-10-21 Thread jochen
jochen wrote: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:55:37 +1300 jochen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: >> >> >> >>>OK, I just rebuild all of EFL and E with the above flags and the error >>>is gone, so it seems it was a optimization bug, and I thought I was >>>conservati

Re: [E-devel] Menu usability.

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Jennings
On Saturday, 22 October 2005, at 12:27:19 (+0900), Carsten Haitzler wrote: > really i DO see bnoth sides to this argument, and both have merit. i > just think this one leans more tothe "change the order" side of > things. maybe in the long term we could provide ways of having the > menu re-ordered

Re: [E-devel] Menu usability.

2005-10-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:28:20 +1300 jochen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Ah well I guess I have to learn to use ctrl-alt x instead, or just keep > a little patch for the default theme which reverts the reordering. menu > order is a theme thing isn't it? no - it's in the code :) > > personalyl i

Re: [E-devel] e17 segv

2005-10-21 Thread jochen
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:55:37 +1300 jochen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > >>OK, I just rebuild all of EFL and E with the above flags and the error >>is gone, so it seems it was a optimization bug, and I thought I was >>conservative with the optimization.

Re: [E-devel] e17 segv

2005-10-21 Thread jochen
David Seikel wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:20:03 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>AARGH!! and now its gone? what version of gcc do you use? >>personalyl i compile everything (in efl) with these cflags: -O2 >>-march=pentium4 -g -msse -mmmx -pipe >> >>

Re: [E-devel] Menu usability.

2005-10-21 Thread jochen
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:30:38 +1300 jochen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > >>David Seikel wrote: >> >>>When I made my E16 theme, I hacked the window menu for greater >>>usability, and it looks like I will have to do the same when I port my >>>theme to E17

Re: [E-devel] e17 segv

2005-10-21 Thread jochen
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:55:37 +1300 jochen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > >>OK, I just rebuild all of EFL and E with the above flags and the error >>is gone, so it seems it was a optimization bug, and I thought I was >>conservative with the optimization.

Re: [E-devel] Entropy, EFM, Evidence: Why three?

2005-10-21 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:57:18 +0200 Sergio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, I am following close the developement of this fantastic WM. > But there is a question I want to ask you: why there is a load of > small, medium and large stuff for E17 and E17 is not yet ready for the > 'install and use'

Re: [E-devel] dutch translation E17 just from cvs

2005-10-21 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:57:25 +0200 Niels Abspoel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if you please give me some feedback on this, how I can translate some > more e17 apps in dutch... > cause I couldn't find more PO files If you are in a dutch translating mood, and you can't find any more apps to transla

[E-devel] dutch translation E17 just from cvs

2005-10-21 Thread Niels Abspoel
Here is another file I translated..Etk this time I found a fr.po and translated one in Dutch. can you ad it please to the cvs together with the other one... # translation of nl.po to Nederlands # This file is put in the public domain. # # aboe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2005. # aboe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[E-devel] Entropy, EFM, Evidence: Why three?

2005-10-21 Thread Sergio
Hello, I am following close the developement of this fantastic WM. But there is a question I want to ask you: why there is a load of small, medium and large stuff for E17 and E17 is not yet ready for the 'install and use' user? i.e. there are THREE file managers under developement: wouldn't be bett

[E-devel] dutch translation E17 just from cvs

2005-10-21 Thread Niels Abspoel
Here is my dutch translation PO file for e17 hope you can include it in the cvs. made it with Kbabel if you please give me some feedback on this, how I can translate some more e17 apps in dutch... cause I couldn't find more PO files # translation of nl.po to Dutch # Enlightenment german translati

Re: [E-devel] EWL Developments

2005-10-21 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Yep, just may do that at some point.On 10/21/05, Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday, 18 October 2005, at 23:09:07 (-0500),Nathan Ingersoll wrote:> I have never liked the parameter inconsistency in the widget constructor> calls, but have been content to support them as people are

Re: [E-devel] EWL Developments

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 18 October 2005, at 23:09:07 (-0500), Nathan Ingersoll wrote: > I have never liked the parameter inconsistency in the widget constructor > calls, but have been content to support them as people are used to it from > other toolkits, and it can save them some extra lines of code. As part

Re: [E-devel] Module blogging, and a wee default_clock.edc suggestion

2005-10-21 Thread Blake Barnett
David Stevenson wrote: > So far I've got four basic entires on my not-oft-visited blog, and I'm > going to add more as I progress (and gradually improve my writing > style). I have also been working on a full "creation of an e17 module" > article, which I'll post once the module I'm working on is

[E-devel] Module blogging, and a wee default_clock.edc suggestion

2005-10-21 Thread David Stevenson
Gidday, First, the left alignment of the default clock's digital text display doesn't suit me too well, so I learnt how to change it (as per the diff at the bottom). Maybe others prefer the text centered too? Second, I've been enjoying the module writing learning experience lately, and have been

Re: [E-devel] Menu usability.

2005-10-21 Thread David Stevenson
On 10/21/05, Jose O Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:36:59 -0700 Ben Ford writes:> David Seikel wrote:>> >Alternatively we could always have menus re arrange themselves> based> >on frequent usage.  That would make everybody happy.  B-) > >> >>> NO.>I disagree, that

FWD: Re: [E-devel] Menu usability.

2005-10-21 Thread dan sinclair
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Re: [E-devel] Is there anything that enlightment doesn't have..?

2005-10-21 Thread Patrick Fritzsch
Didier Casse wrote: > On 10/21/05, Angel Vera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *snip* > >>Don't you wish there would be something like a panel that put all this >>little modules together, much like a gnome panel (yes I am comparing >>enlightenment to gnome because that were gnome started).. > > > We

Re: [E-devel] Is there anything that enlightment doesn't have..?

2005-10-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
use: enlightenment_remote -maximize-policy-set smart and your problems should belong to the past, i guess... i'm against an e-panel, too (na, not really, if someone wants to make some, i'll be the last one who votes against it), but i just see no need for it. one can get the same result by just al

Re: [E-devel] e_util_eapp_edit segmentation fault!

2005-10-21 Thread Anders Trobäck
Anders Trobäck wrote: dan sinclair wrote: Here we go: --- (gdb) run /tmp/test.eap Starting program: /usr/devel/enlightenment/current/bin/e_util_eapp_edit /tmp/test.eap Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 1 (LWP 100518)] 0x28097d69 in ewl_check_checked_s

Re: [E-devel] Menu usability.

2005-10-21 Thread opengunfus-e
My comments are not here.. hmm what happend? [EMAIL PROTECTED] can you foward the private note that I send you in regards to this topic? Thanks. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > A window manager does not know if closing this > > window close

Re: [E-devel] Is there anything that enlightment doesn't have..?

2005-10-21 Thread opengunfus-e
That is why I am saying that E can probably do it better, Maybe by allowing things to be alligned but have a feeling similar to engage.. one of the things I mist the most is being able to see the time when i have windows maximmized.. I just can't see the time.. and very often I get yelled by my wif

Re: [E-devel] Menu usability.

2005-10-21 Thread opengunfus-e
--- dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A window manager does not know if closing this > window closes the > > application, or if closing this window can be > easily reversed by the > > application just opening it again. For these > reasons, I think that the > > Close item on the E17 win

Re: [E-devel] Menu usability.

2005-10-21 Thread Jose O Gonzalez
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:36:59 -0700 Ben Ford writes: > David Seikel wrote: > > >Alternatively we could always have menus re arrange themselves > based > >on frequent usage. That would make everybody happy. B-) > > > > > > NO. > I disagree, that sounds like a great idea! And then

Re: [E-devel] E xgettext

2005-10-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:17:24 +0200 "Ag. System Administrator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hi! > > Just noticed something weird in autogen.sh script in apps/e: IF you are rebuilding autofoo fils you take on the responsibility of a DEVELOPER and that means having autofoo/whatever tools with co

Re: [E-devel] Updated Danish translation

2005-10-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:24:57 +0200 Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hello everybody, > > Right on the heels of the internationalized EFM and the new > configuration panel for locks: an updated Danish translation. thanks - in cvs :) > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code,