On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:27:37 +1000
David Seikel wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:06:34 +0200 "hannes.janet...@gmail.com"
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:42 AM, David Seikel
> > wrote:
> > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:17:10 -0700 Michael Jennings
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tuesday, 06 Octobe
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:44:51 +0200 "Kim Woelders" said:
> On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:33:29 +0200, Carsten Haitzler
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:06:37 -0700 Michael Jennings said:
> >
> >> On Thursday, 08 October 2009, at 11:51:32 (+1100),
> >> Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >>
> >> > ok. time
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:33:29 +0200, Carsten Haitzler
wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:06:37 -0700 Michael Jennings said:
>
>> On Thursday, 08 October 2009, at 11:51:32 (+1100),
>> Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>>
>> > ok. time to chime in. waaay waaay back... back in the early days. no
>> > one other
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:06:37 -0700 Michael Jennings said:
> On Thursday, 08 October 2009, at 11:51:32 (+1100),
> Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>
> > ok. time to chime in. waaay waaay back... back in the early days. no
> > one other than motif set those hints. many others understood them
> > and did it
On Thursday, 08 October 2009, at 11:51:32 (+1100),
Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> ok. time to chime in. waaay waaay back... back in the early days. no
> one other than motif set those hints. many others understood them
> and did it so apps that asked for no borders got them, but NO ONE
> claims to be a
On Thursday, 08 October 2009, at 02:38:36 (+0200),
hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote:
> This has the downside that the window does not appear in window list
> and taskbar and window manipulation might be inconsistent with wm
> settings (just to complete the pros and cons).
Yes, override_redirect wi
On Thursday, 08 October 2009, at 09:59:11 (+1000),
David Seikel wrote:
> It has whatever E17 supplies as it's "borderless" border.
>
> To state my problem again - when Eterm has an E17 default border, the
> E17 window menu includes the iconify and maximise entries. When Eterm
> has the E17 borde
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:18:30 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:59:11 +1000 David Seikel
> said:
>
> > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:07:56 -0700 Michael Jennings
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, 07 October 2009, at 11:42:54 (+1000),
> > > David Seikel wrote:
> > >
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:40:13 -0700 Michael Jennings said:
> On Wednesday, 07 October 2009, at 14:06:34 (+0200),
> hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > yes, Eterm becomes an override-redirect window when using borderless
> > option with e17, so its window is not handled by the wm in any
> > way.
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:59:11 +1000 David Seikel said:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:07:56 -0700 Michael Jennings
> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, 07 October 2009, at 11:42:54 (+1000),
> > David Seikel wrote:
> >
> > > Is this related to my reported problems with Eterm (and at least one
> > > other app) w
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Wednesday, 07 October 2009, at 14:06:34 (+0200),
> hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> yes, Eterm becomes an override-redirect window when using borderless
>> option with e17, so its window is not handled by the wm in any
>> way. I co
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:07:56 -0700 Michael Jennings
wrote:
> On Wednesday, 07 October 2009, at 11:42:54 (+1000),
> David Seikel wrote:
>
> > Is this related to my reported problems with Eterm (and at least one
> > other app) where iconify and maximise don't turn up in the E17
> > window menu when
On Wednesday, 07 October 2009, at 14:06:34 (+0200),
hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote:
> yes, Eterm becomes an override-redirect window when using borderless
> option with e17, so its window is not handled by the wm in any
> way. I commited a workaround that makes e17 pretend to be mwm so
> that Ete
On Wednesday, 07 October 2009, at 11:42:54 (+1000),
David Seikel wrote:
> Is this related to my reported problems with Eterm (and at least one
> other app) where iconify and maximise don't turn up in the E17 window
> menu when using borderless?
>From your description, it sounded like Eterm had a
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:06:34 +0200 "hannes.janet...@gmail.com"
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:42 AM, David Seikel
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:17:10 -0700 Michael Jennings
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, 06 October 2009, at 23:43:58 (+0200),
> >> Kim Woelders wrote:
> >>
> >> > In my o
yes, Eterm becomes an override-redirect window when using borderless
option with e17, so its window is not handled by the wm in any way. I
commited a workaround that makes e17 pretend to be mwm so that Eterm
use mwm hints for borderless mode instead of going override redirect.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:17:10 -0700 Michael Jennings
wrote:
> On Tuesday, 06 October 2009, at 23:43:58 (+0200),
> Kim Woelders wrote:
>
> > In my opinion the MWM hint is not related to EWMH, so I think all
> > that is accomplished is to fetch a potentially rather large atom
> > list which shouldn'
On Tuesday, 06 October 2009, at 23:43:58 (+0200),
Kim Woelders wrote:
> In my opinion the MWM hint is not related to EWMH, so I think all
> that is accomplished is to fetch a potentially rather large atom
> list which shouldn't contain the item being looked for :)
My impression based on the IRC c
On Wednesday, 07 October 2009, at 01:52:47 (+0200),
hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote:
> ok, looking through other window managers source setting mwm_hints in
> net_supported is not common. It seems window managers do not announce
> that they handle mwm hints in any special way. I'm going to remove
ok, looking through other window managers source setting mwm_hints in
net_supported is not common. It seems window managers do not announce
that they handle mwm hints in any special way. I'm going to remove my
patch then.. still i think it's would be the correct way to handle it.
There is still th
yes, it says it is 'intended' to replace mwm hints, but
NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE does not handle the borderless window case.
following EWMH the wm must set hints it supports in _NET_SUPPORTED
(http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.3.html#id2449322).
This way apps can know that mwm hints are
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Kim Woelders wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:27:38 +0200, Michael Jennings wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 06 October 2009, at 21:52:42 (+0200),
>> Kim Woelders wrote:
>>
>>> It seems to me that you are making Eterm e17 compliant in stead of
>>> making
>>> e17 MWM hint compliant.
>>
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:27:38 +0200, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Tuesday, 06 October 2009, at 21:52:42 (+0200),
> Kim Woelders wrote:
>
>> It seems to me that you are making Eterm e17 compliant in stead of
>> making
>> e17 MWM hint compliant.
>
> I think he did that too. My thought was to make
On Tuesday, 06 October 2009, at 21:52:42 (+0200),
Kim Woelders wrote:
> It seems to me that you are making Eterm e17 compliant in stead of making
> e17 MWM hint compliant.
I think he did that too. My thought was to make Eterm more EWMH
compliant. Do you feel that this patch fails to accomplis
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:54:54 +0200, Enlightenment SVN
wrote:
> Log:
> check wm supporting hints for mwm:
> make borderless also work with window managers that do not pretend to
> be mwm
> Author: jeffdameth
> Date: 2009-10-05 16:54:53 -0700 (Mon, 05 Oct 2009)
> New Revision:
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