Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-07-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:25:30 +0900 Jean-Philippe André wrote: > There's also an analog mode, which has pretty high contrast. :-) > I would prefer to use that somewhat in entrance. I think it may have less issues with a user background. But I could not find out how to "use"

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-07-17 Thread Jean-Philippe André
2017-07-18 8:28 GMT+09:00 William L. Thomson Jr. : > This looks horrible! Not to mention even with my glasses on I have a > hard time reading. But we have established no one cares about the > vision impaired running E. >

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-07-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
This looks horrible! Not to mention even with my glasses on I have a hard time reading. But we have established no one cares about the vision impaired running E. https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-596cffc4015e98.11705649.jpg I have spent well over an entire day now trying to replace this stupid

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 10 May 2017 21:42:52 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina said: > Hi All, > > If anything I owe everyone an apology as I started this kind of debate > on IRC when I mentioned maybe starting a UX team where i would focus on > the user experience of various aspects of e. So

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-10 Thread Simon Lees
On 05/11/2017 05:29 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Wed, 10 May 2017 21:42:52 +0200 > Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> If anything I owe everyone an apology as I started this kind of debate >> on IRC when I mentioned maybe starting a UX team where i

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Wed, 10 May 2017 21:42:52 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Hi All, > > If anything I owe everyone an apology as I started this kind of debate > on IRC when I mentioned maybe starting a UX team where i would focus > on the user experience of various aspects of e. So

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Hi All, If anything I owe everyone an apology as I started this kind of debate on IRC when I mentioned maybe starting a UX team where i would focus on the user experience of various aspects of e. So apologies for any issues caused here. --- Regards, Jonathan Aquilina On 2017-05-10 11:43,

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-10 Thread PaulTT
i think it's like this on purpose i like it this way very much ;P On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 5:48 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > This is ridiculous. The default theme makes the clock look bad. I > opened a bug on such. I also recently found at least 1 way to fix such > ugly

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sun, 7 May 2017 12:07:00 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sat, 6 May 2017 16:48:31 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." > said: > > not much in the way of artwork :(. it's just removing the "unlit > elements" part. as per my mail to

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sun, 7 May 2017 12:14:03 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > again. subjective. it does sound a bit like "i don't appreciate being > disagreed with". closing a ticket as invalid because it just presents > an opinion (and is expected to remain open for as long

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 6 May 2017 11:48:44 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > This is ridiculous. The default theme makes the clock look bad. I that is a subjective opinion. there needs to be an understanding that objective fact is far different to this. > opened a bug on such. I also

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 6 May 2017 15:17:16 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Sat, 6 May 2017 19:59:04 +0100 > Al Poole wrote: > > > This is NOT a bug. > > > > It's intended to look like that - vacuum tube clock. > > If you have to tell people what it looks

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 6 May 2017 18:19:46 +0200 Massimo Maiurana said: > I've always thought those "artifacts" was intended, and I also like them :) they were indeed intended. i also like them. i tried the plain look. it didnt look right to me. > Bye > Massimo > > William L. Thomson Jr.

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 6 May 2017 16:48:31 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Sat, 6 May 2017 20:38:10 +0100 > Al Poole wrote: > > > If you are unhappy with the design, please do feel free to make > > changes and submit. > > I have did you see the screenshot I

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread Al Poole
I think I can say on behalf of both myself and the other developers that we look forward to your efforts. On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 9:48 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Sat, 6 May 2017 20:38:10 +0100 > Al Poole wrote: > > > If you are unhappy with the

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 6 May 2017 20:38:10 +0100 Al Poole wrote: > If you are unhappy with the design, please do feel free to make > changes and submit. I have did you see the screenshot I provided on ticket? https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5375 It is available here

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread Stephen Houston
Really On Sat, May 6, 2017, 2:38 PM Al Poole wrote: > If you are unhappy with the design, please do feel free to make changes and > submit. > > There isn't a team of artists in this project, so artwork is only done when > developers both have the skills to do that and the

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread Al Poole
If you are unhappy with the design, please do feel free to make changes and submit. There isn't a team of artists in this project, so artwork is only done when developers both have the skills to do that and the time - both rare resources. On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 8:29 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 6 May 2017 19:59:04 +0100 Al Poole wrote: > This is NOT a bug. > > It's intended to look like that - vacuum tube clock. I think the correct term is Vacuum Fluorescent Display https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_fluorescent_display Not sure its really the same as

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 6 May 2017 19:59:04 +0100 Al Poole wrote: > This is NOT a bug. > > It's intended to look like that - vacuum tube clock. If you have to tell people what it looks like. Its a poor design. Others have said Neon clock. Though could resemble old LED's where you could see

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread Al Poole
This is NOT a bug. It's intended to look like that - vacuum tube clock. On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 5:58 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Sat, 06 May 2017 16:06:54 + > Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Please refrain from

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 06 May 2017 16:06:54 + Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > Hi, > > Please refrain from cross-posting complaints like this from the bug > tracker to the mailing list. You are reaching the same people in both > cases, and it just creates more noise for them to

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread Massimo Maiurana
I've always thought those "artifacts" was intended, and I also like them :) Bye Massimo William L. Thomson Jr. ha scritto il 06/05/2017 alle 17:48: > This is ridiculous. The default theme makes the clock look bad. I > opened a bug on such. I also recently found at least 1 way to fix such > ugly

Re: [E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
Hi, Please refrain from cross-posting complaints like this from the bug tracker to the mailing list. You are reaching the same people in both cases, and it just creates more noise for them to sift through. Thanks, Mike On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 11:50 AM William L. Thomson Jr.

[E-devel] Unwanted artifacts on clock

2017-05-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
This is ridiculous. The default theme makes the clock look bad. I opened a bug on such. I also recently found at least 1 way to fix such ugly issues. I do not appreciate the ticket having been closed twice now over semantics. This is a valid bug. The clock looks horrible by default. As seen in