Re: [E-devel] Support for force sensitive touch screen

2010-02-07 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:58:34 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: want. as such pressure is normally senses by radius. your finger is soft. the harder you press the larger the radius of your touch (up to a point). so i'd suggest using these first unless u literally

Re: [E-devel] Merge some E-MODULES-EXTRA in e/src/modules, remove some?

2010-02-08 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:45:46 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: As far as I know, the following modules are maintained, solid and useful (to their extent) to be merged in e/src/modules, being declared as official and trustworthy: - notification (I use and

Re: [E-devel] Support for force sensitive touch screen

2010-02-08 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:17:36 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:35:44 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:58:34 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: want. as such pressure

Re: [E-devel] A crash on restart/exit and a few other bugs.

2005-09-15 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:46:33 +0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, how does the remember thing work, exactly. It seems that if I set remember for one app (remember this window + remember position), 10 other, totally unrelated apps get remembered, and sometimes, not only the position is

Re: [E-devel] A crash on restart/exit and a few other bugs.

2005-09-15 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:53:19 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you need to tell e HOW to rememebr - by name, class and other properties. if you dont it ends up applying to all windows. If only I had waited a minute before posting, you would have answered the

[E-devel] Everything useful is locked to the root layer, dammit.

2005-09-23 Thread David Seikel
Guess I'm officially out of lurk mode now, and one day early B-). I have a problem with modules and the e17 menu being locked in the root layer. The basic problem is that in order to access any of that stuff, I have to first navigate to an empty desktop. Since this includes the pager, this

[E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-23 Thread David Seikel
Last whinge for today, honest. One of the big selling points for me about e17 is it's lightning quick startup time. When using SuSE, I have to put up with three minute booting time on my Athlon 3000+, so when logging onto KDE, having it take thirty seconds to grind to a start just adds insult to

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-23 Thread David Seikel
It's 8 in the morning here, and I've been awake since some vague time way back in yesterday. I may be rambling. I also have no idea what I'm talking about, since I have not looked at the code or the design. On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:40:14 +0200 Gabriel Rossetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't you

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-23 Thread David Seikel
Just so we have some figures to get a handle on this, I did some timing tests on the e17 I got from cvs this morning. This is on my Athlon XP 3000+ with Barton Core, ASUS A7V333 MoBo, 512 MB DDR 333 KingMax RAM, UltraDMA PATA controller and matching hard drives, and nVidia GeForce4 MX 440. While

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-24 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:24:43 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 03:10:12 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the background' tricks to X. At the moment, the bulk of getting logged in graphically is spent in X before it starts

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-25 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:55:08 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:29:47 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Let me know when I can try it out. now - well wait 6-12hrs till it hits anon cvs :) Umm, yesterday, up for 30 or 40

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-26 Thread David Seikel
Here is my report on the new cache stuff, but first. On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:03:26 -0500 Frederick Reeve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if this is related at all but I just did a cvs update and all my eaps are working nicely in engage, ibar, ect. However none of them now show up at all

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-26 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:03:26 -0500 Frederick Reeve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if this is related at all but I just did a cvs update and all my eaps are working nicely in engage, ibar, ect. However none of them now show up at all in: the ALT+tab list, the Minimized list, on the

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-09-26 Thread David Seikel
It's been quite a few minutes since I posted my full eap cache report to this list, and it hasn't turned up yet. I was gonna reply to it with a quick addendum. I'll put it here instead, and hope that these two messages don't get onto the list in the wrong order and confuse people. In the cases

[E-devel] e17 menu crash.

2005-09-28 Thread David Seikel
I can get e17 to crash with some consistancy. Start it up, let it finish starting the auto start apps (sylpheed claws, konsole, psi, karm), do anything, exit enlightenment from menu, click on OK, crash. Works nine times out of ten. I have attached a full backtrace. -- Stuff I have no control

[E-devel] Edit icon details blank.

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
(I have finally got the E mailing lists to change my address. I used to be known as won_fang at yahoo.) When I select Edit icon from the window menu, the editor starts up, but with none of the details in the widgets, and not even the icon is displayed. For a window with no eap file, the window

[E-devel] Making the remember stuff easier to use.

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
I had an idea about how to make the window remembering stuff more user friendly. In the remember menu, there are many Match by x options. I suggest that it would be helpful to add the actual value used for the match to the text of these menu options, so they would become Match by x : y. Where if

[E-devel] Re: enlightenment-devel -- confirmation of subscription -- request 620005

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:12:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enlightenment-devel -- confirmation of subscription -- request 620005 We have received a request from 202.155.163.251 for subscription of your email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], to the enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

[E-devel] Re: enlightenment-devel -- confirmation of subscription -- request 620005

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
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[E-devel] Re: enlightenment-devel -- confirmation of subscription -- request 989803

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:11:36 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enlightenment-devel -- confirmation of subscription -- request 989803 We have received a request from 202.155.163.251 for subscription of your email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], to the enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [E-devel] Re: enlightenment-devel -- confirmation of subscription -- request 989803

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
Sorry about these, please ignore them. I know these are not supposed to go to the group. I was trying to subscribe during the mailing list outage, and something got confused. I actually subscribed properly two hours ago, these are just ghosts from the past that are doing strange things.

[E-devel] Re: enlightenment-devel -- confirmation of subscription -- request 989803

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
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Re: [E-devel] Making the remember stuff easier to use.

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 15:32:54 -0500 Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggested the same to raster last week. His long term idea is that those items won't be in a menu, but you'll choose Remember... and a dialog box will appear to choose the settings you'd like to remember. That would

Re: [E-devel] Making the remember stuff easier to use.

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 09:56:07 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the plan is to have a much simpler dialog with an advanced dialog attache. the simple one will have like 3 or 4 options for the most common uses of remember and just5 elect it and all the fields u see

[E-devel] Remember broken. Was: e17 menu crash.

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 06:42:49 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can get e17 to crash with some consistancy. Start it up, let it finish starting the auto start apps (sylpheed claws, konsole, psi, karm), do anything, exit enlightenment from menu, click on OK, crash. Works nine

[E-devel] Edit icon details blank.

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
When I select Edit icon from the window menu, the editor starts up, but with none of the details in the widgets, and not even the icon is displayed. For a window with no eap file, the window class is displayed for create icon, and when I start e_util_eapp_edit manually (from the command line)

Re: [E-devel] Remember broken. Was: e17 menu crash.

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:56:27 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 06:01:35 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I just updated from cvs. Although I have only been using it for a few minutes, this crash appears to be solved. However

Re: [E-devel] Remember broken. Was: e17 menu crash.

2005-10-02 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:00:23 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 200mb! WTF! thats atrocious. i do that much before i go to work in the morning! :) Truth be told, I usually blow that much in a day or two. After that the speed cap kicks in. If I blow a lot more,

Re: [E-devel] About text format manipulation with EFL

2005-10-04 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 23:01:23 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you want to let webcore do the text layout you will end up with TONNES of text objects - and having that many can possibly get very expensive speed-wise. for now - instead of rendering text, just

Re: [E-devel] About text format manipulation with EFL

2005-10-04 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 00:25:20 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What he really loves is caches. Get him started on that, and you'll hear no end on the matter :) I've, had that conversation with him. I'm the one that insisted on the .eap cache. pgptudZhTfQuv.pgp

Re: [E-devel] Slow startup with lots of eap's.

2005-10-06 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:18:18 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:16:58 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Menus are still the only source of e17 crashes, but it is more stable than the last update. On the other hand, I've only

[E-devel] I'm gonna write some FAQ's.

2005-10-07 Thread David Seikel
I've been answering a few Questions that are Frequently Asked recently, both in the mailing lists and in the chat channel. Being the typical lazy programmer that I am, it's time to generalise my solution to avoid duplicating the effort in the future. I'm gonna write some FAQ's. I'm currently

Re: [E-devel] I'm gonna write some FAQ's.

2005-10-07 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:23:43 -0700 Blake Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Seikel wrote: To say that some consolidation and management of these is needed would be an understatement. Guess I just volunteered for that job. It'd be great if all these references pointed to the same

Re: [E-devel] I'm gonna write some FAQ's.

2005-10-09 Thread David Seikel
Just an update for those that haven't seen my growing pains on IRC. I am now the official FAQ maintainer at get-e.org. I request that any developers that are too busy to reply to their email, send any questions that you are frequently asked to me. It would be helpful if you sent answers as

[E-devel] Shall we rationalise the web sites?

2005-10-11 Thread David Seikel
(This is cross posted to e-web at the request of benr.) Yesterday on #edevelop there was a discussion on what to do with the various web sites. So that we may discuss this and reach a consensus, I am posting the log here as an attachment, trying to inline it screws it up. (I recently updated my

Re: [E-devel] Shall we rationalise the web sites?

2005-10-11 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 08:24:57 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (This is cross posted to e-web at the request of benr.) Oops, should have mentioned, replies and follow ups set to e-web. Probably a bad idea though. pgpXMvYrz5xLt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [E-devel] The current state of E Widget ToolKit Libraries (EWTKL)

2005-10-13 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:19:14 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so does everyone seem agreed we should try re-assign priorities to the mailing lists to be more on topic (make some announcements and make an effort to redirect mails to users or web lists etc.) and

Re: [E-devel] Re: License Issues

2005-10-14 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:55:36 +0800 Didier Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/14/05, Michael Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As raster said, this is an explanation, not a discussion. The decision was made (and hashed out at length) a very long time ago, and it isn't under review.

Re: [E-devel] The current state of E Widget ToolKit Libraries (EWTKL)

2005-10-14 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:33:35 +1000 Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: really long description snipped Those are some damned good arguments. The purest in me doesn't like to admit this, but I see your reasoning now. Hmm, guess that description is

[E-devel] Slow hardware vs E17 usability study.

2005-10-14 Thread David Seikel
A work in progress version of my E17 on slow hardware is available at http://edevelop.org/node/1647 for comment and derision. pgpXNsg7A3Sjo.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [E-devel] The current state of E Widget ToolKit Libraries (EWTKL)

2005-10-14 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:09:42 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:49:18 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:33:35 +1000 Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote

[E-devel] Ding dong, the witch is dead.

2005-10-16 Thread David Seikel
I am proud to announce that the vile, evil, devilish window serial killer has been vanquished. After a weekend of really, really very slow debugging on a pentium 100, raster and myself managed to crush it unmercifully. The bug was that on slow hardware, switching desktops quickly would sometimes

Re: [E-devel] Re: Ding dong, the witch is dead.

2005-10-16 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:06:11 +0200 Martin Geisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am proud to announce that the vile, evil, devilish window serial killer has been vanquished. After a weekend of really, really very slow debugging on a pentium 100, raster

Next witch. Was: [E-devel] Ding dong, the witch is dead.

2005-10-16 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:46:27 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me hands over the 'killing it slowly monsterbug-debug-award' to david For my next trick.. Although it doesn't happen often, it is occasionally annoyingly time consuming to have to reboot my computer when the keyboard

Re: Next witch. Was: [E-devel] Ding dong, the witch is dead.

2005-10-16 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:54:02 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:33:21 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:46:27 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me hands over the 'killing it slowly

[E-devel] Evil thoughts about scripting.

2005-10-17 Thread David Seikel
After seeing lots of constant questions and requests about various strange ways to do things like window focusing, layering, sizing, etc I have come up with some thoughts that are probably on the TODO list. Please slap me if I am re inventing current plans. We are currently working on a config

Re: [E-devel] Evil thoughts about scripting.

2005-10-17 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:45:20 -0400 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of an easy to use scripting system, themes for window behaviour if you like. Where we remove the hard coded stuff, and replace them with standard scripts/themes, then add a Really advanced config where

[E-devel] A new E17 module called emu.

2005-10-18 Thread David Seikel
After a somewhat heated debate in #edevelop yesterday, I decided to start writing my first E17 code, a module that I like to call emu. Emu will be developed in two, maybe three stages. While I may be duplicating, or at least appear to be duplicating, some effort, raster seemed to think stage one

Re: [E-devel] A new E17 module called emu.

2005-10-18 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:41:21 -0700 shadoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a somewhat heated debate in #edevelop yesterday, I decided to start writing my first E17 code, a module that I like to call emu. Wish I'd seen that, have a log? I always keep IRC logs. I'll send it to you privately.

Re: [E-devel] A new E17 module called emu.

2005-10-19 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:59:41 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:41:21 -0700 shadoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a somewhat heated debate in #edevelop yesterday, I decided to start writing my first E17 code, a module that I like to call emu. Doh! My

Re: [E-devel] A new E17 module called emu.

2005-10-19 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:34:14 -0700 Blake Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, let me enlighten myself. I read the IRC log that brought about the idea for emu. I see now how they are completely different since Evoak would never allow manipulation of E's internals the way a module can. (Like

Re: [E-devel] New Rain Module

2005-10-19 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:11:48 -0400 Christopher Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enclosed is a new rain module by Ray Miller (kingrayray) for enclusion into e_modules. Enjoy ! We now have modules for weather, snow, and rain. This is turning into quite a climatic system. For those of us that

[E-devel] Menu usability.

2005-10-20 Thread David Seikel
When I made my E16 theme, I hacked the window menu for greater usability, and it looks like I will have to do the same when I port my theme to E17. In an effort to avoid menu hacking in a theme, I will go over those changes and their reasons now. First of all is the position of the Close and

Re: [E-devel] Menu usability.

2005-10-20 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:15:32 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:34:47 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the Close item on the E17 window menu should be at the bottom of the menu, and not at the top. The same argument applies

Re: [E-devel] Making the remember stuff easier to use.

2005-10-20 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:09:39 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:08:15 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Now that the remember dialog is out. I will raise this again. It would help usability if the actual window name

Re: [E-devel] Ding dong, the witch is dead.

2005-10-20 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:57:54 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and help out - shit gets fixed :) I just saw you commit a removal of the TODO item that describes witch 0. Keeping in mind that you told me the fix was both a fix and a workaround, is this witch's death

Re: [E-devel] e17 segv

2005-10-20 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:20:03 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AARGH!! and now its gone? what version of gcc do you use? personalyl i compile everything (in efl) with these cflags: -O2 -march=pentium4 -g -msse -mmmx -pipe on my p4 boxes, and -O2

Re: [E-devel] dutch translation E17 just from cvs

2005-10-21 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:57:25 +0200 Niels Abspoel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you please give me some feedback on this, how I can translate some more e17 apps in dutch... cause I couldn't find more PO files If you are in a dutch translating mood, and you can't find any more apps to translate,

Re: [E-devel] Entropy, EFM, Evidence: Why three?

2005-10-21 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:57:18 +0200 Sergio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am following close the developement of this fantastic WM. But there is a question I want to ask you: why there is a load of small, medium and large stuff for E17 and E17 is not yet ready for the 'install and use'

Re: [E-devel] e17 segv

2005-10-21 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:30:54 +1300 jochen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Seikel wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:20:03 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be busy with the witch 1 hunt on the weekend. But since I have lots of distros here, I might

Re: Next witch. Was: [E-devel] Ding dong, the witch is dead.

2005-10-23 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:37:29 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:00:25 +0200 Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess (to be verified) is that X should be started long time enough after getty's are ready... So, completely opposite to witch 0, witch 1 looks

[E-devel] fork'n'pipe IPC for ecore.

2005-10-24 Thread David Seikel
While I was gonna write fork'n'pipe IPC for the emu module, raster setup some ecore stubs and got me to complete write it in ecore instead. ecore_exe_pipe_run(), ecore_exe_pipe_write(), and friends will allow people to fork of a child process and use it's stdin and stdout to communicate with it.

Re: [E-devel] evolume 0.0.14ha1 is not listed in Modules

2005-10-28 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Eric Sandall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Blake Barnett wrote: Probably need to run: enlightenment_remote -module-load evolume enlightenment_remote -module-enable evolume That did it, thanks. :) Why do I have to do it for

Re: [E-devel] the witch 3

2005-10-30 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:17:10 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:37:22 +1300 Jochen Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: different to what gdb is doing? Can anybody running ubuntu reproduce this? CFLAGS are still -O2 -g -march=pentium4.

Re: Next witch. Was: [E-devel] Ding dong, the witch is dead.

2005-10-31 Thread David Seikel
I just got a clue on this entrancing witch. It looks as though the keyboard is not frozen at all. It's being redirected from entrance to the second virtual terminal. Next time it bites, I'll try a blind root login and entrance stop. See what happens. pgphM4Q13tsYB.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Next witch. Was: [E-devel] Ding dong, the witch is dead.

2005-10-31 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:36:32 +0100 Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: I should be able to reproduce it at will... Cool, noted. pgpvhHSpWTig3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [E-devel] RE: E CVS: apps/e onefang

2005-10-31 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:15:49 -0500 (EST) dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +* FIX: Esmart_textarea has been disabled until it is updated to the new + textblock API. Affected files are - +e17/libs/esmart/configure.in +e17/libs/esmart/src/lib/Makefile.am +

Re: [E-devel] EWL themes

2005-11-03 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 08:18:08 -0600 Brian Mattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally, I prefer svn over cvs. we can easily give people access to _Just_ their theme dir. and symlinks to sort things by app should not be a problem. I prefer svn to. sf.net claims that svn is coming.

Re: [E-devel] [ANNOUNCE] e_modules removal from cvs

2005-11-03 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 11:07:45 -0600 Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/3/05, Blake Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read my suggestion here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=enlightenment-develm=113100021920877w=2 If everyone agrees I can set this up ASAP. I'd

Re: Next witch. Was: [E-devel] Ding dong, the witch is dead.

2005-11-06 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 00:58:24 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got a clue on this entrancing witch. It looks as though the keyboard is not frozen at all. It's being redirected from entrance to the second virtual terminal. Next time it bites, I'll try a blind root login

Re: [E-devel] CVS diff for PreselPrev

2005-11-06 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:42:23 +0800 Phuah Yee Keat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the features that I missed from KDM is the preselect previously logged in user, I have added that support in Entrance cvs, here's the output that I get from cvs diff, please tell me additional things that are

Re: Next witch. Was: [E-devel] Ding dong, the witch is dead.

2005-11-07 Thread David Seikel
Only one problem though. Why does this work? I have not been able to find that particular option documented anywhere. I can guess what it does, but I want to know for sure. Raster pointed me at the documentation. The vtXX option forces the use of a particular Virtual Terminal (VT). I'm

Re: [E-devel] CVS diff for PreselPrev

2005-11-07 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 10:05:29 -0800 Blake Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Seikel wrote: Until a few hours ago entrance was unmaintained. Apparently xcomp, the previous maintainer, has become too busy with other things to do much with it. Earlier today I adopted it. However, I made

Re: [E-devel] e17 (cvs) - menu strangeness

2005-11-08 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:48:14 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:34:19 -0600 Laurence Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:44:05 -0600 Laurence Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [E-devel] e17 (cvs) - menu strangeness

2005-11-09 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:57:25 -0600 Laurence Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just tried replacing my gant eap collection with new gant eap download from Get-E.org. No change. This is crazy. This was fixed days ago. Time to strip it bare and try again. Start by copying ~/.e to some place safe,

Re: [E-devel] e17 (cvs) - menu strangeness

2005-11-09 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:10:15 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:57:25 -0600 Laurence Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just tried replacing my gant eap collection with new gant eap download from Get-E.org. No change. This is crazy. This was fixed days ago

[E-devel] Problem with the new string sharing stuff.

2005-11-28 Thread David Seikel
Raster, there is a problem with your new string sharing stuff, or maybe it has uncovered a problem elsewhere, possibly in the clock module. http://pastebin.com/441950 is valgrind output supplied by rokaholic, I have similar valgrind output (56KB). evas_stringshare_del (evas_stringshare.c:112) is

Re: [E-devel] Some basic contributing guidelins

2005-11-29 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:40:29 +0100 (CET) Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Brian Mattern wrote: On Tuesday 29 November 2005 15:05, Morten Nilsen wrote: Brian Mattern wrote: Ok, it looks like we just need to lay out some simple guidelines to make everyone

Re: [E-devel] API Documentation

2005-12-02 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:31:12 +0100 Gabriel Rossetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to get the API Docs needed so that I may code a module, but I can't reach www.enlightenment.org. Is there a mirror for that Doc? Either enlightenment.sourceforge.net or enlightenment.org.au

Re: [E-devel] imap/biff

2005-12-02 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 15:35:31 +0100 Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really care about pop/mbox/etc .. besides, who uses that crap these days anyway? ;) Anybody with a mail account that doesn't support IMAP. Things like yahoo and gmail generally only support POP.

[E-devel] Monitor and weather modules dodgy.

2005-12-06 Thread David Seikel
The monitor and weather modules are causing SIGABRT whenever they get disabled / shutdown. Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. [Switching to Thread -1214728512 (LWP 29354)] 0xe410 in ?? () #0 0xe410 in ?? () #1 0xbffcc3a4 in ?? () #2 0x0006 in ?? () #3 0x72aa in ?? () #4

[E-devel] The emu has landed, again.

2005-12-09 Thread David Seikel
The emu has landed, again, and this time it's not hiding it's head in the sand. Mere mortals can actually download it now. http://edevelop.org/node/1897 Could someone that knows more about edje than this edje n00b download the file and let me know why it won't show it's face? What horrible

Re: [E-devel] The emu has landed, again.

2005-12-09 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:25:38 +0900 David Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think 3rd party modules can't yet use e_gadget_face_theme_set (rephorm or someone else can correct me if I'm wrong). I think you'll find your problem can be resolved in the meantime if you use edje_object_file_set

[E-devel] fork'n'pipe example.

2005-12-10 Thread David Seikel
There is an example for fork'n'pipe usage at http://edevelop.org/node/1897 but the example soaks up all your cpu time. If anybody can spot why, please let me know. Probably some subtlety of the event system I'm not aware of. pgpsv9NsPikFp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [E-devel] fork'n'pipe example.

2005-12-11 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:51:42 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:05:26 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: There is an example for fork'n'pipe usage at http://edevelop.org/node/1897 but the example soaks up all your cpu time

Re: [E-devel] Ibar Config Dialog Patch(s)

2005-12-11 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:24:12 -0500 Christopher Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, here it is, the ibar config dialog. I've tested the crap out of it, so it won't b0rk your hard-drive, however I did not commit to cvs as I'd like to get some review on it. Reason being, I had to add a

Re: [E-devel] Ibar Config Dialog Patch(s)

2005-12-11 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:34:30 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:24:12 -0500 Christopher Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, here it is, the ibar config dialog. I've tested the crap out of it, so it won't b0rk your hard-drive, however I did

[E-devel] ibar and ibox bug.

2005-12-11 Thread David Seikel
Dunno about this one, someone else tested this and had no problem. This is with a cvs update from several hours ago. The default theme is in use. This happens in ibar and ibox, they share identical configs, I'm guessing they have identical config code. First, turn follower on for ibar or ibox.

Re: [E-devel] Ibar Config Dialog Patch(s)

2005-12-12 Thread David Seikel
No one has complained about it yet. I say give it another 24 hours, then commit if there are still no complaints. pgpO2NPi2YE1F.pgp Description: PGP signature

[E-devel] Proposed small ecore event change.

2005-12-13 Thread David Seikel
There was a small discussion after I voiced my opinion about the ecore event system. As can be expected, some one suggested I submit a patch. This is not a patch, but a statement of the problem and two proposed solutions. I'll write either solution. My comments where prompted by someone

[E-devel] The return value from fd handlers.

2005-12-15 Thread David Seikel
While I was investigating the best way to go about adding line buffering to ecore_exe, I stumbled upon a little problem. The return value from fd handlers is not documented anywhere, and it is in fact used differently under different circumstances. If there is a buf_func defined for this

Re: [E-devel] The return value from fd handlers.

2005-12-15 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:24:50 -0600 Brian Mattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't looked at ecore_exe / fd handlers / etc. However, in most ecore handlers the return values are 0 - this handler is done, don't call it again / delete it !0 - this handler is not done, call it again next

[E-devel] wtf?

2005-12-15 Thread David Seikel
E17: Begin shutdown procedure! *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x08130788 *** Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. [Switching to Thread -1214720320 (LWP 4621)] 0xe410 in ?? () #0 0xe410 in ?? () #1 0xbffcc3a4 in ?? () #2 0x0006 in ?? () #3 0x120d in ?? ()

Re: [E-devel] wtf?

2005-12-15 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:11:35 -0600 Chad Kittel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:46:11 +1000]: sinp #9 0xb7e806ad in evas_stringshare_del (str=0x8130790 Receive and #send text messages from your mobile phone) at evas_stringshare.c:105 #10 sinp

Re: [E-devel] wtf?

2005-12-15 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:11:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could not find any sign of that string. It's a pretty unlikely string to. have u been using exebuf? i had a small unref issue i fixed yesterday evening... Not during that session. Turns out I

[E-devel] Dropshadow needs a config dialog now.

2005-12-18 Thread David Seikel
The new module config stuff is looking good. Removing the module menu and replacing it with dialogs and right click config menus has left us with no way to config dropshadow, as there is nothing to right click on, and no dialog. pgpAJjscbcLZh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [E-devel] Taskbar Module

2005-12-18 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:35:11 -0600 Brian Mattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking about starting a taskbar module, and would like a few comments on what people want to see. Basic ideas so far: I'm hoping that you are aware that both ibox and engage provide taskbar functionality? Is

Re: [E-devel] The return value from fd handlers.

2005-12-18 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:43:58 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think this is a mater of documentation, not chaning api. basically Like that? i did it that way because some (very rare) systems like xlib do their own buffering and may read data at any time and

Re: [E-devel] Proposed small ecore event change.

2005-12-18 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:26:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you need to add the concept of ecore objects. then being able to attach things to the ecore objects - that includes keepign the callback handler list within the object, not in the global list. so now

Re: [E-devel] Dropshadow needs a config dialog now.

2005-12-18 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 03:31:35 +0100 Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Seikel wrote: The new module config stuff is looking good. Removing the module menu and replacing it with dialogs and right click config menus has left us with no way to config dropshadow, as there is nothing

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