Re: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-22 Thread Larry Price
to help debug this you will probably need to supply the following info the output of dmesg (excerpt the line where it says something about your modem) the output of lsmod so that we know what kernel drivers are already loaded You should also make sure you can find thhe modem configurator (thi

[eug-lug]Why your solution to the spam problem won't work.

2004-03-12 Thread Larry Price
I'm posting this here in case some of you haven't seen it yet. http://www.craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt it captures many of the obstacles in the way of a good solution. it's kind of neat perhaps it could be implemented as a web service so that you could easily construct a response just by clicki

Re: [eug-lug]Last chance for old equipment

2004-03-12 Thread Larry Price
need the space and the cash. On Friday, March 12, 2004, at 01:06 PM, Jim Beard wrote: I might be interested in Assorted rack trays... Any sliding keyboard holders? Jim On Thursday, March 11, 2004, at 12:09 PM, Larry Price wrote: 7 foot Chatsworth racks Lucent Portmaster PM-3's

[eug-lug]Last chance for old equipment

2004-03-11 Thread Larry Price
7 foot Chatsworth racks Lucent Portmaster PM-3's Assorted rack trays, monitor enclosures and possibly a surly bofh or two No reasonable offers refused; unreasonable offers will be given serious consideration -- Metaphors for system administration ---

Re: [eug-lug]second NIC for dedicated connection

2004-03-10 Thread Larry Price
route -an fs:ifconfig -a gbox:ifconfig -a list routes on both boxes are you sure that ssh is in fact going over the dedicated connection? On Wednesday, March 10, 2004, at 09:09 PM, Mr O wrote: I've added a second NIC to my fileserver and gamebox for dedicated connections. I can SSH into th

Re: [eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes

2004-03-08 Thread Larry Price
you might want to check out GARNOME http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/garnome/ It's a set of build scripts used by (among others ) the gnome UI usability people the lnx-bbc people are quite fond of it. I've had my own adventures with gnome lately which showed up some limitations of the ports system a

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-08 Thread Larry Price
there is a milter to call spamassassin On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 07:44 AM, Bob Crandell wrote: It's amazing how great minds think alike. This is exactly what I'm trying to do. What I'm not sure of is the how to part. How to have this intermediate box filter mail without having to create

[eug-lug]Now we're getting somewhere

2004-03-03 Thread Larry Price
Halloween Memo #10 http://www.opensource.org/halloween/halloween10.html the gist: SCO financed by MS through the backdoor to the tune of $100 million over the past year. Would that we had a vigilant antitrust division that would take action on this sort of effort to stifle competitive products..

Re: [eug-lug]beagle.j procmail recipe

2004-03-03 Thread Larry Price
d refuse mail. milter's are neat On Wednesday, March 3, 2004, at 04:11 PM, T. Joseph Carter wrote: On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:24:48PM -0800, Larry Price wrote: A mass mailing virus that mail's itself out as being from administrative addresses claiming to be an account termination noti

Re: [eug-lug]beagle.j procmail recipe

2004-03-03 Thread Larry Price
, at 02:11 PM, Rob Hudson wrote: What's bagle.j? On 20040303.1252, Larry Price said ... #bagle.j :0 B * SEVMTDMyLmRsbABz***aGx3YXBpLmRsbAB1 /dev/null remove the *** in the middle of the string ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail

[eug-lug]beagle.j procmail recipe

2004-03-03 Thread Larry Price
#bagle.j :0 B * SEVMTDMyLmRsbABz***aGx3YXBpLmRsbAB1 /dev/null remove the *** in the middle of the string -- Metaphors for system administration --- bailing the titanic with paper cups: or polishing the deck chairs thereof steering an iceberg with a

Re: [eug-lug]Not even *nix-related, asm is worthwhile

2004-02-18 Thread Larry Price
Anyone want to have a small distro / alternaOS demo at tomorrow's clinic possible: http://menuetos.org http://www.skyos.org http://openbeos.org http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/ (cute bunny logo may finally get this niche OS out of the lab and into the bedrooms of teen gir

Re: [eug-lug]procmail help

2004-02-15 Thread Larry Price
Hi Rob it should be easy enough to write a conditiional procmail script take a look at the procmailex man page as that's where all the wild examples are. You can tweak the headers that spamassassin emits and even set your own list of adjectives to describe a message you could have an X-Spam-Level:

Re: [eug-lug]Navigator install error

2004-02-08 Thread Larry Price
Yech, why don't you just use firebird and tell it what to set the User-Agent string to. Mozilla and Konqueror will let you masquerade from a menu item. And while you're at it, tell us what bank so we may avoid it. It's 2004; anyone still telling you what browser to use has very clearly NOT kep

Re: [eug-lug]2.6.0 Tuning

2004-02-08 Thread Larry Price
top renice folding (some versions of top will let you renice jobs from within top) On Saturday, February 7, 2004, at 10:36 PM, Bob Crandell wrote: Hi, When I was running 2.4.20, I could work and Fold at the same time without any degradation. Now I'm running 2.6.0 and Folding drags my syst

Re: [eug-lug]dns gizmo

2004-02-07 Thread Larry Price
or you could use the commands module >>> s = commands.getoutput('nmap -O 67.171.238.246') >>> s '\nStarting nmap 3.30 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-02-07 19:36 PST\nNote: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -P0\nNmap run completed -- 1 IP address (0

Re: [eug-lug]meeting, archlinux

2004-02-07 Thread Larry Price
there is internet access, both wired and unwired On Saturday, February 7, 2004, at 03:02 PM, Elijah Buck wrote: Hey all, I'm planning on showing up at next weeks meeting. I recently installed archlinux on my Compaq Armada e500 (600mhz p3, 192 megs ram). I'll be sure to bring it to the meeting,

Re: [eug-lug]stop drooling

2004-02-07 Thread Larry Price
I use bird names for my own boxes (heron, redwing, sandpiper) at work we have the office machines which are all named after gods and the service hosts which are kind of a mixed bag (characters from the simpsons, grateful dead, movies, linguists, and assassins) I actually think it's useful to name

[eug-lug]Dell's Linux Blog

2004-02-06 Thread Larry Price
http://linux.dell.com/blog seems to be focused mostly on data center apps and (oddly enough) getting dell hardware drivers up to speed... it's a good sign, and they definitely seem to "get it" -- Metaphors for system administration --- bailing the tita

Re: [eug-lug]stop drooling

2004-02-06 Thread Larry Price
so now you'll never have to leave the house On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 11:05 PM, Mr O wrote: http://home.comcast.net/~notanatheist101/images/genpdp.jpg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.h

[eug-lug]weird tcp issue

2004-02-05 Thread Larry Price
so I discovered that something somewhat strange is going on with ssh on my laptop here's a sanitised packet trace. 21:14:29.395457 192.168.0.191.52903 > randomhost.communitycolo.net.ssh: . [bad \ tcp cksum d0cc!] 96:96(0) ack 5121 win 33304 9903> (DF) [tos 0x10] (ttl 64, id 57293, len 52) 21:

Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window

2004-02-05 Thread Larry Price
nyal wrote: It's nice to know she won't be stealing andy of EUGLUG's sales..What is she trying to steal? Nyal googlejuice most likely; various webmaster accounts I'm associated with get three or four of the "reciprocal link" offers per day. some of them are attempting to get a particular sit

[eug-lug] tracking down a spammer is usually an effort without a payoff.

2004-02-05 Thread Larry Price
I know I've tried it many times. On Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 10:08 PM, T. Joseph Carter wrote: While all of this is simple and obvious, I'm surprised that Chris actually bothered to mail all of the homework. He has friends at ev1 and *ahem* someone here at UO has blocked apparently the

[eug-lug]Portmasters available

2004-02-02 Thread Larry Price
Since we've closed out our charnelton place Machine Room we have some equipment we're trying to move. five Lucent PM-3 portmasters these are very handy if you need to provide direct dial-in services; it might be possible to repurpose them to work as an ISDN endpoint ; or if you have a loose T-1 an

Re: [eug-lug]Naive BSD question

2004-02-02 Thread Larry Price
bsd's all use the UFS filesystem derived from 4.2 BSD You can mount ext2 from FreeBSD and you can mount UFS filesystems from BSD obstacles to cooperation are less daunting than you might think. read the man pages for mount, newfs and fsck to get the gory details. On Monday, February 2, 2004, at 04

Re: [eug-lug]Re: EUGLUG FreeBSD users?

2004-01-31 Thread Larry Price
As far as using FreeBSD on the desktop, I've been doing so for the past year on that orange box, using the GNOME/Metacity desktop that's one of the options during the install. (Metacity is billed as "the window manager for the adult in you") upgrading is easy, and if you do it regularly it's not

[eug-lug]snigger

2004-01-31 Thread Larry Price
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/01/30/ wwwscocom_is_a_weapon_of_mass_destruction.html only 6? -- Metaphors for system administration --- bailing the titanic with paper cups: or polishing the deck chairs thereof steering an iceberg with

[eug-lug]un-SCO-ization

2004-01-29 Thread Larry Price
You could burn a spindle of Linux CD's; we are running short of discs to hand out to the interested. and we can't expect kBob to burn all the CD's Knoppix is always useful, but having a little variety is also good. I heard some rumour of a live filesystem OpenBSD iso; anyone got a url??? On Thurs

[eug-lug]some novarg strings to make life easier for mail admins

2004-01-29 Thread Larry Price
Here's some strings for your procmailrc (or amavis setup) there are two variants between them they've been hitting our mailhost at about ten per minute remove the *** in the middle and use your favorite mailfilter to scan for these in base64 encoded attachments UmVnQ2xvc2VLZXkAAABtZ***W1zZXQAA

Re: [eug-lug]FARTHER Off topic -- EFN related only

2004-01-26 Thread Larry Price
First off, I'd like to apologise to Horst and anyone else who was surprised by the absence or misbehaviour of certain services while we moved things around. The announcement did state "efn hosted services like email" would be down but did not explicitly describe what would happen. The main tas

[eug-lug]SCO, DMCA, PATRIOT (cue the black helicopters)

2004-01-22 Thread Larry Price
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/01/21/ 2311249.shtml?tid=103&tid=117&tid=187&tid=88&tid=99 reading some of the /. commentary on the SCO letter to legislators made me realise something. Sun, Microsoft and SCO are not the only people who would like to see Linux and pretty much all of the Open So

Re: [eug-lug]Windows Services for UNIX -- anyone tried this

2004-01-21 Thread Larry Price
You'll notice that I didn't offer to volunteer for the experiment... On Wednesday, January 21, 2004, at 11:55 AM, Bob Miller wrote: Larry Price wrote: it looks as though MS is at least making some effort in the direction of providing a reasonably sane programming environment. any o

[eug-lug]Windows Services for UNIX -- anyone tried this

2004-01-21 Thread Larry Price
it looks as though MS is at least making some effort in the direction of providing a reasonably sane programming environment. any one on this list tried this puppy out yet? -- Metaphors for system administration --- bailing the titanic with paper cu

Re: [eug-lug]Combo Message - Comcast DNS and Brewpub/EUGLUG Meeting

2004-01-14 Thread Larry Price
Yep it sounds like most of those who usually go to the clinic will be attending the SAOTBP first See you there. On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 11:51 AM, Jason wrote: Hey folks FWIW, I've had a 24. net IP w/ Comcast since I got to Eugene in Aug of 03. I had a 12. IP when I first got Comcas

Re: [eug-lug]SAO: TBP, Date Clarification, Thursday 1/15 (fwd)

2004-01-14 Thread Larry Price
Given that a. they dropped the $5 gate fee, b. it's two blocks from efn c. it's early my cunning plan is to go to the SAO and chat and maybe eat some pizza. and then return to efn around 7pm to work on stuff On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 06:35 PM, Horst wrote: Sorry if I am duplicating, but

Re: [eug-lug]any mandrake users?

2004-01-13 Thread Larry Price
did you try running /sbin/ldconfig also if that fails and there is no libc.so.6 but there is a libc.so you can symlink libc.so.6 to libc.so ln -s libc.so.6 libc.so On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 02:15 PM, Jordi Humphreys wrote: Hey folks, Any mandrake users out there? Got a fellow wh

Re: [eug-lug]JavaScript book

2004-01-13 Thread Larry Price
The O'Reilly books are pretty good, there's one called Building Javascript Applications that actually gets into building complex xalculators and such But the Javascript Pocket Reference is the one that gets visited most On Monday, January 12, 2004, at 06:40 PM, Tim Howe wrote: Is there a dece

Re: [eug-lug]Microsoft spam...

2004-01-06 Thread Larry Price
I rather doubt it On Tuesday, January 6, 2004, at 10:20 AM, Linux Rocks ! wrote: So, I just got some spam from what apears to be microsoft. To the best of my knowlege, ive never given them any of my email addy's, however the address the spiced ham was sent to is the one I use for my linux lis

Re: [eug-lug]Test

2004-01-06 Thread Larry Price
The system works ;-) Neither snow nor rain nor gloom of night can stop our intrepid mailman Although the occasional malformed email will catch in it's queues. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-l

Re: [eug-lug]PDA not working

2004-01-04 Thread Larry Price
are you trying to mount a drive/mass storage device over USB? things to try: mount -a will show mounted volumes ls -l /dev/sda* will tell you if you are actually attempting to mount the correct device. On Sunday, January 4, 2004, at 09:37 AM, Dirk Ouellette wrote: Are these logs telling me

Re: [eug-lug]superformat /dev/fd0

2004-01-04 Thread Larry Price
You have to unmount it first. Formatting a disk volume while something else is using it is a Bad Thing (tm) umount /dev/fd0 You may need to kill/suspend any automount daemon if you have one running. On Sunday, January 4, 2004, at 03:02 AM, nyal wrote: Greetings all, Formatting a floppy sho

Re: [eug-lug]I'm back!

2004-01-03 Thread Larry Price
I think it's having used a chainsaw to overcome a weather related event ;-) And yes Anne definitely needs a chainsaw of her own, how else is she supposed to keep you in line? On Saturday, January 3, 2004, at 12:45 AM, Bob Miller wrote: Larry Price wrote: Anyway, all systems are operat

Re: [eug-lug]I'm back!

2004-01-03 Thread Larry Price
Aha... On Saturday, January 3, 2004, at 12:23 AM, Bob Miller wrote: Anyway, all systems are operational again. When we got to town this evening, we bought a chainsaw. Next time, we'll be prepared. You do realize that you are now officially an Oregonian. -- "You are the eventuality of an anoma

Re: [eug-lug]New year's resolution...

2004-01-01 Thread Larry Price
and mine will be .5-meter, from LEO On Thursday, January 1, 2004, at 07:32 AM, T. Joseph Carter wrote: I was thinking hard about new years resolutions this week and have settled on one. My new year's resolution is 1680x1050. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list

[eug-lug]Thursday Clinic reminder

2003-12-31 Thread Larry Price
There will be a EUGLUG clinic thursday starting at 4 pm at EFN intergalactic headquarters 43 W. Broadway. Some of us will be working on setting up the HP servers (OS Install and RAID building) but there will be plenty of time to show off newly aquired gadgets, and chat about programming and sys

[eug-lug]Zero Wiping, partition table resurrection

2003-12-29 Thread Larry Price
This is kind of a borderline question; A disk was intentionally zero'd out using dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda however the DOS fdisk utility couldn't rebuild the partition table afterwards. Is it possible that the rather radical data-ectomy performed might have damaged the low-level formatting o

[eug-lug]Clinical Update -- No Meeting Christmas Day

2003-12-23 Thread Larry Price
As mentioned there will NOT be a EUGLUG Clinic on December 24th as the expectation is that you will all be home programming your little hearts out and trying to ignore the steaming heaps of tempting food and holiday cheer On New Year's day (January 1 2004) there will be a clinic, and it will st

[eug-lug]emacs question

2003-12-22 Thread Larry Price
I've been wrestling with my .emacs trying to get it to define a default comment syntax I'd like have shell style "^#" comments turned on for comment-region by default in all buffers; but it seems to be one of those things that only happens for some modes and not others... C-h C-v comment-styles l

Re: [eug-lug]SCons / python question

2003-12-20 Thread Larry Price
The python interpreter tries to generate .pyc and .pyo files whenever a program is run to get it all taken care of you should cd into the SCons installation directory and run the command python setup.py install as a user that has privileges to write to the installation directories, this will

Re: [eug-lug] [msurkan@windows.microsoft.com: RE: Fwd: posting to Linux mail list]

2003-12-19 Thread Larry Price
On Friday, December 19, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Ben Barrett wrote: I disagree. I think this is a fabulous move on their part, and even though it makes me feel uncomfortable (in our usual linux zealousness) although I am surprised it is taking them this long to catch on... Hey at least they're start

[eug-lug]Spam Law

2003-12-18 Thread Larry Price
Ok, the first thing you need to understand is that there was a fifteen minute interview that got condensed down to 15 seconds of a 30 second story. And television is not a medium noted for deep exposition of complex topics. I did take the time to actually read the text of the law before the in

Re: [eug-lug]Servers and endtables

2003-12-18 Thread Larry Price
Yes, we'll be working on them at least through january On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 12:17 PM, Jason wrote: Larry wrote: So, if you've always wanted the challlenge of wrestling with SCSI disk arrays, and getting HP netservers to boot both CPU's; setting up Samba etc. just show up on thursday

Re: [eug-lug]Window! sigh...

2003-12-16 Thread Larry Price
will smc let you download their driver from their site.? On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 10:31 PM, Jamie wrote: So, I got this laptop, I want to connect it to the internet, right now it only has windows XP on it. I pop my smc etherez 10baseT ethernet card, and the driver isnt found (note wor

[eug-lug]Inappropriate technology

2003-12-16 Thread Larry Price
OK, I think this takes the prize for the weirdest combination of services needed to get to one's inbox http://norman.walsh.name/2003/11/16/ppp the short version laptop->vonage(voip phone)->ISP's access server Now working at EFN I've had occasion to hear about things like treesitters doing dial

[eug-lug]clinic for thursday won't start till 7PM

2003-12-16 Thread Larry Price
Thursday night's clinic will be happening; but because of a scheduled meeting the doors will not open until 7:00 at night (19:00 PST) so if you show up early... you can stand around on broadway leeching off the wireless... -- "You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest ef

Re: [eug-lug]Those HP Servers

2003-12-12 Thread Larry Price
On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 03:30 PM, Bob Miller wrote: As you know if you were at EUGLUG's clinic last night, we have four monstrous HP servers that the City of Eugene recently donated. The biggest of them has dual 200 MHz Pentiums, 512 MB of RAM, a hardware RAID of 12 drives totaling 78 G

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M - I apologize,...

2003-12-11 Thread Larry Price
because it can be overwhelmed, if all three spamassassin boxes are chugging away and aren't returning an answer within 10sec procmail will just assume spamd is unavailable and default to delivering the mail. I'd like to try something like SPF http://spf.pobox.com because SA, while surprisingly g

[eug-lug]FileSystem.mount()

2003-12-11 Thread Larry Price
So there is this project called LUFS (Linux Userspace File System) who are th same fine folks who brought you sshfs and ftpfs http://lufs.sourceforge.net/lufs/intro.html And now some brilliant soul in NZ has released the ultimate userland file system pythonfs; be afeared, be very afeared http://

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M from this LIST!!!! See headers in message

2003-12-11 Thread Larry Price
If you'll notice that your address is in the cc; for each of the messages you quote. You should take a moment to review your spam-filter settings visit https://webmail.efn.org/spamassassin On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 05:48 PM, Harald Sundt wrote: I hate to be cranky, but, guys Se

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-10 Thread Larry Price
On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 02:40 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Those words to not appear on the page nor in the source. Google says they cannot change their database records and ranking system. This is not cool. I'm glad that nutch.org is well under development. It's the result of a googl

Re: [eug-lug]Compromised? Intruder??

2003-12-10 Thread Larry Price
what does netstat -an show you? it looks like blackjack may be a protocol name look in /etc/services or /etc/inetd.conf to see if you have a blackjack server running (your output shows your machine talking to itself and not having sent or received anything) On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at

Re: [eug-lug]Servers and endtables

2003-12-09 Thread Larry Price
hursday PM. (got work to do y'know) On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 10:22 PM, Jason Dommasch wrote: What hardware architecture are the machines? Are they Intel compatible (PC)? At 11:17 AM 12/9/03, Larry Price wrote: So, i was looking for projects for eug-lug and mentioned building offi

[eug-lug]Useful resource for newbies and non-technical people

2003-12-09 Thread Larry Price
http://microsoft.toddverbeek.com/ "Just say NO" goes into detail about why and has a fairly agnostic approach to recommending alternative products... -- "You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony

[eug-lug]Servers and endtables

2003-12-09 Thread Larry Price
So, i was looking for projects for eug-lug and mentioned building office file servers for non-profits and lo and behold the city is passing on some of their old fileservers and they landed on me. So, if you've always wanted the challlenge of wrestling with SCSI disk arrays, and getting HP nets

Re: [eug-lug]The KNOPPIX spindle

2003-12-08 Thread Larry Price
We're out right now, I can burn a few, but havinng a stash on hand is a good thing, since I can then help people get started. On Monday, December 8, 2003, at 04:57 PM, Bob Miller wrote: How many KNOPPIX CDs do we have on the spindle, Larry? Is it time to burn some more? -- Bob Miller

[eug-lug]Clinic Happenings

2003-12-03 Thread Larry Price
The usual thursday night clinic is going to be enlivened with a couple of activities tomorrow night. a. OPN is letting us borrow a computer to set up as an intranet server for a nonprofit basically it's a box on which we will be installing and configuring some basic productivity and gr

[eug-lug]make -d s foo

2003-12-01 Thread Larry Price
Does anyone know of a good resource to help decode the intricacies of make (BSD make in this case although gmake _should_ be bug compatible) specifically the default suffix and filename expansion rules which do not seem to be listed in the man page . so far I've found Fowler's original paper, a

Re: [eug-lug]Rappel pour les abonnements aux listes sur udius.com

2003-12-01 Thread Larry Price
it's the french version of the the mailman list membership reminder I'm not sure why eug-lug would have been subscribed to it... Having had a look at the site http://www.i3tv.com/ which is one of those linked from udius.com; I would guess that this is produced by an incompetent french spammer. Th

[eug-lug]truly useful embedded linux

2003-11-30 Thread Larry Price
http://bigmouth.here-n-there.com/ I can see it now, a hacked billy-bass as a front end for the NIDS "'sploit 'sploit; someones hacking the webserver!!" -- "You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony

Re: [eug-lug]overclocked problem?

2003-11-29 Thread Larry Price
On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 08:25 PM, Mr O wrote: Anyone else overclock at all? What kind of problems? My machine is super stable at 3495Mhz but pushing it over that causes programs to just die whenever they want. Let me get this straight, you're talking a stock 2.4Ghz CPU and you are comp

Re: [eug-lug]No clinic this week (Buy Nothing Day)

2003-11-26 Thread Larry Price
Depends, are you a hippie or a hipster? On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, at 10:54 AM, Bob Miller wrote: http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/bnd/ Speaking of Buy Nothing Day, anyone have any idea where/who/how BND is being celebrated in Eugene? Hippies celebrate buy nothing day by going to

[eug-lug]Debian security incident.

2003-11-21 Thread Larry Price
From the DSA """ In particular the following machines have been affected: . master (Bug Tracking System) . murphy (mailing lists) . gluck (web, cvs) . klecker (security, non-us, web search, www-master) Some of these services are currently not available as the machines undergo close inspecti

Re: [eug-lug]cOURSE REQS FOR mATH 60

2003-11-20 Thread Larry Price
There are a number of high quality equation editors available for linux/unix including one that comes as a part of Mozilla But if the course requirements say MS Word, then that's what you are stuck with. On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 08:06 PM, Dirk Ouellette wrote: I'm planning to take m

Re: [eug-lug]sco: novell-suse breaks sco contract

2003-11-18 Thread Larry Price
On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, at 05:01 PM, Bob Miller wrote: Christopher Maujean wrote: Just to save myself some time and brainpower trying to figure out his problem, I'll commit to 20$/mo for a ProzacForDarlMcBride funding drive. anyone else? Today is Take Darl To Lunch day. At 5:00 PST (rig

[eug-lug]cameras, gphoto2 and USB (standards and lack thereof)

2003-11-18 Thread Larry Price
I just recently aquired a digital camera, after doing a lot of homework and making sure that I had all that I needed to make it work correctly. It's a CASIO EX-s2 and it mounts as a USB Mass storage device (yes I can keep regular files on the camera) It took about 5 minutes to get it configured and

Re: [eug-lug]EFN mail questions...

2003-11-16 Thread Larry Price
actually on our system it's the recipe is :0 H * ^X-Spam-Status: [Yy][Ee][Ss] /dev/null although I would recommend keeping spam around for a week or so; spamassassin works about as well as swatting mosquitoes with an axe. On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 01:33 PM, T. Joseph Carter wrote: On Sun,

Re: [eug-lug] SCO lawsuit-what is LIKELY affect on Linux?

2003-11-14 Thread Larry Price
On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 10:16 PM, Bob Miller wrote: As a challenge to open source, I am sanguine that we'll come through this thing stronger than ever. (We come through *everything* stronger than ever.) that which does not # kill -9 us can only make us # nice -10 spending-friday-night-st

Re: [eug-lug] SCO lawsuit-what is LIKELY affect on Linux?

2003-11-14 Thread Larry Price
Actually that is not the case, Copyright law places some pretty clear restrictions on what can and cannot happen in this case. There are some uninformed people who will tell you that the GPL is up for litigation, if SCO tries to take that tack, it will be an uphill battle for them, and even if

Re: [eug-lug]ecommerce experiences sought

2003-11-14 Thread Larry Price
teractions with Miva, minivend, jcart, OS ecommerce software project of the week, etc. are interesting and certainly fit for this list, that's not what I am asking about.) On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 12:31 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:49:45AM -0800, Larry Price w

[eug-lug]ecommerce experiences sought

2003-11-14 Thread Larry Price
Has anybody on this list had to deal with authorize.net from a unix environment? Comments, experiences? Are there any payment authorization gateways that are in the set of (not crewed by vampires && not Microsoft centric) ? We've been using trustcommerce.com and while as a programmer, I found thei

[eug-lug]SCOutrage o' the day

2003-11-12 Thread Larry Price
http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5106450.html?tag=nefd_top me too subpoena -- "You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. " -The Architect "Microsoft has resolved this issu

Re: [eug-lug]mail over ssh

2003-11-12 Thread Larry Price
man ssh_config in $HOME/.ssh/config KeepAlive yes On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 03:43 PM, Rob Hudson wrote: On 20031112.1352, Patrick R. Wade said ... What are you using for the SSH client? You may be able to set it to send keepalives. I had a problem like you describe telecommuting f

[eug-lug]GNU-Darwin ISOs available at this weeks clinic

2003-11-11 Thread Larry Price
I just started the download. x86 is the only ISO available at this time. -- "You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. " -The Architect "Microsoft has resolved this issue

Re: [eug-lug]Spam, filtering, and censorship

2003-11-11 Thread Larry Price
On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 12:24 PM, Bob Miller wrote: Larry Price wrote: spamassassin is a filtering solution analogous to using a pitchfork on a river in flood, it's effective at moving debris out of the way, but it's not exactly selective... My question about all thi

Re: [eug-lug]Politically Motivated Spam Filtering (PMSF) at EFN?

2003-11-11 Thread Larry Price
Unfortunately not everyone is as diligent as ed, someone has to at least glance at every message going through the spam queue to make sure it's not someone asking for support or berating us for the fact that SA missed one and was overenthusiastic about another. We do keep a big directory of spa

Re: [eug-lug]Politically motivated spam filtering at EFN?

2003-11-11 Thread Larry Price
On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 08:54 AM, Ben Barrett wrote: The initial point I tried to make in this thread, is that people have opted into how they use SpamAssasin, right? I'm not sure of the EFN setup, so need some clarification. So, everyone gets it, but everyone can have a personal confi

Re: [eug-lug]Politically motivated spam filtering at EFN?

2003-11-10 Thread Larry Price
Actually there is a plain old spamassassin setup lurking in there (no bayesian) but if someone were to send messages spammy enough to trip this, they would be held for moderation. You can demonstrate this easily enough by using Hotmail to send the list an ecard with 'imaginative' language. On

[eug-lug]Spam, filtering, and censorship

2003-11-10 Thread Larry Price
On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 03:02 PM, Marc Baber wrote: Please forgive me for singling you (Larry) out as the expert on the subject of [EMAIL PROTECTED], but you've been very helpful on the topic more than once in the past and I suspect you're our best hope of  finding answers to a troubl

Re: [eug-lug]planet CCRMA

2003-11-10 Thread Larry Price
I've used a few of the packages mentioned, Audacity and snd but most of the kernel bits are for if you are wanting to do things like make your workstation be the synthesizer for a midi device.(aka, real time preemptive interrupts) Neat project, I know someone who might be into trying it out, mus

Re: [eug-lug]Disk space

2003-11-10 Thread Larry Price
I usually use du and a shell expansion for instance the following command will grind away and give you a human readable summary of all the directories in /var cd /var; du -sh `ls` the backticks around ls will cause the command to be replaced by it's output. On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at 09:1

[eug-lug]Web Servers of the presidential candidates

2003-11-07 Thread Larry Price
Full on political fun from Linux Journal http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7239&mode=thread&order=0 About what you'd expect, the comment about uptimes is just low ;-) -- "The Internet is falling" --C. Little 2003 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [eug-lug]Breaking News for Nzone Members: Novell Acquires SUSE LINUX

2003-11-04 Thread Larry Price
This is IBM operating through a proxy; SUSE already supports most of IBM's server line, IBM and Novell are already fairly close. The only surprising thing is that IBM isn't buying Novell up outright... On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 08:16 AM, jgw wrote: Let's just hope to hell that this goes so

Re: [eug-lug] Cory's silliness

2003-10-28 Thread Larry Price
On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 03:17 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Now imagine such an interference pattern being spread around the internet to produce or store a vast quantitiy of information. With a system that swarming could be the pre-pre-precursor to, a little piece of that massive amount of

Re: [eug-lug]ISO audio conversion tool

2003-10-28 Thread Larry Price
On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 09:15 AM, Ken Barber wrote: On Monday 27 October 2003 23:11, Larry Price wrote: This is a company that wants to own your eyes and ears, don't give them any help. Are you aware that Real.com has had a change of heart? Did you miss their announcement at Linux

Re: [eug-lug]ISO audio conversion tool

2003-10-28 Thread Larry Price
Hmm, I went looking for one a while back and kept getting bogged down in real.com's atrocious website. and they are using the sco approach to making friends http://www.flux.org/pipermail/linux/2002-November/011103.html I'm thinking your best bet may be to aim for a pipeline of the format .ram -> .

Re: [eug-lug]cross posting

2003-10-24 Thread Larry Price
On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 10:38 AM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: For the initiators of these threads, note it is considered bad netiquette to cross post. It's a relatively minor breach, and is in fact quite helpful in making new connections, about on a par with shouting from one group to another

[eug-lug]Hmmmm?

2003-10-22 Thread Larry Price
I'm going to do something this list has rarely seen: Herewith a block quote from a story about Microsoft """ In response to a question about whether Microsoft plans a version of Office for the Linux operating system, Ballmer said no, but "never say never. But we have no current plans and don't

Re: [eug-lug]snmp remote (was KDE tip of the day)

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Price
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 12:36 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 12:33:19AM -0700, Larry Price wrote: On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 11:37 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: I'd like to see real configuration of the kernel from the KDE control center (or really, somewhere

[eug-lug]snmp remote (was KDE tip of the day)

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Price
On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 11:37 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: I'd like to see real configuration of the kernel from the KDE control center (or really, somewhere else), as in configuration of the live kernel: ip_forward, rp_filter, sysctl, etc. Aren't there already MIB browsers that do this? htt

[eug-lug]linux.net plays the hotmail card.

2003-10-12 Thread Larry Price
So if you have any need for yet another email address, some company called linare.com is launching a free (ad-supported) email service @linux.net Linare corporation actually looks pretty interesting as they are launching a $199 linux based pc 1.8ghz 128MB They are based in Redmond... WA Anyone on

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