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> Cc: "Willie"
> Sent: 20-Aug-19 8:19:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?
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>>> On 8/20/19 5:58 AM, paul dove via EV wrote:
>>> I still say put in 110v outlets on all the curbs like up nor
EA claims that they’ve done a detailed business case analysis on all of their
investments, or at least their management said so on a call I was on with them.
Then again, I heard stories about some of their investments, where they just
tossed them in at the last minute, clearly without any real
ar when
> done. You don't get revenue during those times.
> >>>
> >>> Third, if someone goes past about 80% charge, the trickle charge
> should start and you get substantially less revenue.
> >>>
> >>> I believe anyone who installs an L3 should expect i
art and you get substantially less revenue.
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>>> I believe anyone who installs an L3 should expect it to be a loss and plan
>>> on recouping it with associated business.
>>>
>>> Peri
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?
On 8/20/19 5:58 AM, paul dove via EV wrote:
I still say put in 110v outlets on all the curbs like up north. No need for an
EVSE at all.
I was very pleasantly surprised
On 8/20/19 5:58 AM, paul dove via EV wrote:
I still say put in 110v outlets on all the curbs like up north. No need for an
EVSE at all.
I was very pleasantly surprised on a trip to Alberta and there abouts.
I found "Destination" charging as far north as Fort St John. And
charged at two
Tesla charges idle fees by the hour when charge is complete
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> On Aug 19, 2019, at 9:23 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV
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>> On 19 Aug 2019 at 23:12, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
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>> Third, if someone goes past about 80% charge, the trickle charge should
>> start
iated business.
>>
>> Peri
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "paul dove via EV"
>> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
>> Cc: "paul dove" ; "jim"
>> Sent: 19-Aug-19 1:06:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Public
In our area, central North Carolina, the Sheetz gas stations have been
installing Level 3 chargers at almost all their stations. Sheetz has
fast food service that you can order from the pump. On Plugshare,
they generally have a 10.0 availability rating. The Sheetz stations
provide up to 150kw
On Mon Aug 19 19:00:13 PDT 2019 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
>In this particular case I would highly advise against spending $50k for
>a L3 charger at a co-op. L3 charging is more for long distance travel,
>not opportunity charging. I suspect most people are not driving
>extended distances to shop
>> I read recently that at many commercial EVSEs in France, billing is
strictly by time connected, not energy usage.
Something else to consider is that many utilities forbid the
reselling of their energy. In fact, in Oregon, its a state law, and
probably is elsewhere as well. No laws say you
d start and you get substantially less revenue.
>>
>> I believe anyone who installs an L3 should expect it to be a loss and
>
>> plan on recouping it with associated business.
>>
>> Peri
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "paul dove via EV&q
On 19 Aug 2019 at 23:12, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Third, if someone goes past about 80% charge, the trickle charge should
> start and you get substantially less revenue.
Really? I read recently that at many commercial EVSEs in France, billing is
strictly by time connected, not energy
im"
Sent: 19-Aug-19 1:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?
If there were a car plugged into all three for 10 hours a day that
would be $160 to $175 at $0.20 per KWh. Assuming cost of $0.10 a KWh
that would take two years to get back the investment with no
main
1:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?
If there were a car plugged into all three for 10 hours a day that would be
$160 to $175 at $0.20 per KWh. Assuming cost of $0.10 a KWh that would take two
years to get back the investment with no maintenance costs.
Those are b
If there were a car plugged into all three for 10 hours a day that would be
$160 to $175 at $0.20 per KWh. Assuming cost of $0.10 a KWh that would take two
years to get back the investment with no maintenance costs.
Those are big if's. but then it would be $25k a year income. I've never
Locally (Menomonie, WI, about an hour east of St Paul, MN) our food co-op and
an electric car owner/investor are hoping to install two level 2 and a 75kW
level 3 charging stations at the co-op storefront location. They are figuring
on about $50,000 by the time it is functional (most of the
ul dove"
Sent: 19-Aug-19 4:02:27 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?
Be prepared for slow return on investment. Chargers are not in use more than is
use. I would be interested in the number of years to payback figures.
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On Aug 18, 2019, at 2
Be prepared for slow return on investment. Chargers are not in use more than is
use. I would be interested in the number of years to payback figures.
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> On Aug 18, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote:
>
> Has anyone on this list been involved in owning a DCQC
If anyone needs L2 charging in Passaic, NJ, feel "free" to let me know.
After my driveway has cured a few more days.
If anyone needs DCQC in Yonkers,
I am studying how to provide it.
I can't do it for free in a remote location.
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On 18 Aug 2019 at 15:38, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote:
> (Probably none right near my house, as there are
> charging locations in progress on the Turnpike and the Parkway.
> (The Vince Lombardi Service Area is in place but not yet
> interfacing with evGo membership database :-)
Near what house
Has anyone on this list been involved in owning a DCQC charging station?
I have identified a few locations that might be profitable
as a stand-alone location, somewhat in the way a privately-owned ATM
works in every bodega in town.
I have visited Chargepoint and evGo web sites, but there's
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