On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
And why did you murder your wife? the judge asked.
If I had a reason I killed my wife and the judge thought that reason
indicated I was unlikely to do something like that again (I killed her
because she was chasing me with
On 5/11/2012 10:31 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Orthogonal? There is only one way it could not be deterministic and not
random, there is only one way it was not caused for a reason and not
On 5/11/2012 11:02 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
And why did you murder your wife? the judge asked.
If I had a reason I killed my wife and the judge thought that reason indicated I was
unlikely to
A few quotes below to dualism from Max Velmans.
Evgenii
http://blog.rudnyi.ru/2012/05/quantum-dualist-interactionism.html
In Chapter 2, Conscious Souls, Brains and Quantum Mechanics there is a
nice section Quantum Dualist Interactionism (p. 17 – 21) where Max
Velmans describes works that
On 12 May 2012, at 08:02, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
And why did you murder your wife? the judge asked.
If I had a reason I killed my wife and the judge thought that reason
indicated I was unlikely to do something like that
On 12.05.2012 13:33 Bruno Marchal said the following:
Evgenii,
All this is well known. Copenhagen theory, or unique-universe theory
are non computationalist dualist theories.
But as Shimony has shown, the idea that consciousness collapse the wave
leads to many difficulties, like non local
A few quotes below to dualism from Max Velmans.
Evgenii
H. Kragh (Dirac: a Scientific Biography, Cambridge U.P., 1990) reports
a 1927 discussion between Dirac, Heisenberg and Born, about what
actually gives rise to the so called collapse (reduction of waves packet).
Dirac said that it is
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:20 AM, scerir sce...@libero.it wrote:
A few quotes below to dualism from Max Velmans.
Evgenii
H. Kragh (Dirac: a Scientific Biography, Cambridge U.P., 1990) reports
a 1927 discussion between Dirac, Heisenberg and Born, about what
actually gives rise to the so
On Sat, May 12, 2012 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
You should get a 21st century dictionary
In geometry, orthogonal means involving right angles (from Greek ortho,
meaning right, and gon meaning angled). The term has been extended to
general use, meaning the characteristic of being
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
although machines can be said determined, they are not entirely
determined from what they can know about themselves at the time they decide
to act.
As I've said many many times, Turing proved in 1936 that in general
On 5/12/2012 10:22 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
You should get a 21st century dictionary
In geometry, orthogonal means involving right angles (from Greek ortho,
meaning
right, and gon meaning
Pure non-consciousness?
that would approach the 'pure(?) nothingness' - even in my generalized
definition of Ccness:
response to relations leaving open he definition of a response and of
relations. Otherwise it is perfect.
RESPONSE came in as a concoction from acknowledgement of and response to
On 5/12/2012 6:20 AM, scerir wrote:
A few quotes below to dualism from Max Velmans.
Evgenii
H. Kragh (Dirac: a Scientific Biography, Cambridge U.P., 1990) reports
a 1927 discussion between Dirac, Heisenberg and Born, about what
actually gives rise to the so called collapse (reduction of waves
On May 12, 4:10 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
No you don't. I guess I have to draw a diagram
Determined
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Coerced-Free
On 5/12/2012 10:19 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:20 AM, scerir sce...@libero.it
mailto:sce...@libero.it wrote:
A few quotes below to dualism from Max Velmans.
Evgenii
H. Kragh (Dirac: a Scientific Biography, Cambridge U.P., 1990)
reports
a 1927
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
On 5/12/2012 10:19 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:20 AM, scerir sce...@libero.it wrote:
A few quotes below to dualism from Max Velmans.
Evgenii
H. Kragh (Dirac: a Scientific Biography,
I remember a kid back in secondary school saying to me that if everything was
determined - as seemed inevitable to him from his understanding of physics -
then you might as well give up and despair, since that was inevitable anyway!
I tried to explain that this was a confusion of levels
On 5/12/2012 4:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Evgenii,
All this is well known. Copenhagen theory, or unique-universe theory are non
computationalist dualist theories.
Not all of them, at least not in the sense of dualist you mean. Adrian Kent has proposed
a one-universe theory which doesn't
On 5/12/2012 6:48 PM, Pierz wrote:
I remember a kid back in secondary school saying to me that if everything was
determined - as seemed inevitable to him from his understanding of physics -
then you might as well give up and despair, since that was inevitable anyway!
I tried to explain that
On Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:58:28 PM UTC+10, Brent wrote:
On 5/12/2012 6:48 PM, Pierz wrote:
I remember a kid back in secondary school saying to me that if
everything was determined - as seemed inevitable to him from his
understanding of physics - then you might as well give up and
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