On 14 Jul 2014, at 02:04, meekerdb wrote:
Yet that seems to be what Quentin requires in order to say to
instances of the MG compute the same function. Knowing the
universal number or knowing the function is like the problem of
knowing all the correct counterfactuals.
The MG is supposed
No. no. no.
Neither agnostics, nor theists, neither deists (Bruno) reject a
personal God for pure reasons. They (you) reject a revealed God
because you reject his revelation, that is, the eartly moral precepts.
You have no problem with other religions as long as there is no moral
obligations in th
As someone said...
"Man created God in his own image: Intolerant, sexist, homophobic, and
violent."
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Poor you.
It must be very hard to live with such insane hate against men.
It must hurt you a lot. You need help.
2014-07-15 13:05 GMT+02:00, LizR :
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May I suggest you try water instead of corona ? Or maybe coconut water ? it
may help you to climb faster...
2014-07-15 13:44 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :
> Poor you.
>
> It must be very hard to live with such insane hate against men.
>
> It must hurt you a lot. You need help.
>
> 2014-07-15 13:
That is atheistic humor?
Perhaps too much atheism can endanger the cognitive hability for
creating good jokes. I don´t know. Or it may be the consequences of
too much exposition to this particular atheists affirmation group.
Some controlled experiments are necessary.
2014-07-15 13:49 GMT+02:00,
2014-07-15 14:06 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :
> That is atheistic humor?
>
Not at all it is humor for stupid... Maybe I should try humor for fascist
homophobic mysoginistic christian asshole ? It would certainly be better
suited for the kind of marvelous coconut climber your are.
>
> Perhaps t
This new joke is even worse
Try burning something.
You are sick of hate, and you also are badly in need of help.
2014-07-15 14:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux :
> 2014-07-15 14:06 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :
>
>> That is atheistic humor?
>>
>
> Not at all it is humor for stupid... Maybe I should
2014-07-15 14:39 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :
> This new joke is even worse
>
> Try burning something.
>
Hmm good idea, are you free for dinner ?
>
> You are sick of hate, and you also are badly in need of help.
>
> 2014-07-15 14:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux :
> > 2014-07-15 14:06 GMT+02:00 A
That is better. Congrats!
2014-07-15 14:50 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux :
> 2014-07-15 14:39 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :
>
>> This new joke is even worse
>>
>> Try burning something.
>>
>
> Hmm good idea, are you free for dinner ?
>
>
>>
>> You are sick of hate, and you also are badly in need of h
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 4:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 14 Jul 2014, at 02:04, meekerdb wrote:
>
>> Yet that seems to be what Quentin requires in order to say to instances
of the MG compute the same function. Knowing the universal number or
knowing the function is like the problem
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Of course there is. You know when in Helsinki, (as a comp believer)
>
John Clark is NOT a "comp" believer.
> what do you expect about the evolution of your subjective life,
>
There are now 2 , so which subjective life?
> like the one you
>>You are sick of hate, and you also are badly in need of help.
I see Alberto is in a helping mood this morning. Such a pious man. Bravo
Alberto!
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On 14 Jul 2014, at 18:06, Samiya Illias wrote:
On 14-Jul-2014, at 11:08 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:09, Samiya Illias wrote:
Why do you need to see God to believe in God?
Good point, especially coming from a literalist :)
:)
I agree that God, actually like a U
To tell the truth is the most friendly and helpful. Truth make you
free. first the truth, then, love.
If you have friends that don´t tell you the naked and painful truth
then they are not real friends. They lie you to make you useful for
them, to enslave you. Truth in the other side, empowers you
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Samiya Illias
wrote:
> most people choose the religion of their parents, as part of culture and
> are comfortable confirming to social norms, instead of honest intellectual
> inquiry and search.
>
Yes, all the people in the middle east didn't conduct a honest
in
From: Alberto G. Corona
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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Atheist
To tell the truth is the most friendly and helpful. Truth make you
free. first the truth, then, love.
If you have friends that don´t tel
> On 15-Jul-2014, at 12:57 pm, John Clark wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Samiya Illias
>> wrote:
>>
>> > most people choose the religion of their parents, as part of culture and
>> > are comfortable confirming to social norms, instead of honest intellectual
>> > inquiry and s
The following is from the Sam Harris book "The End Of Faith".
Open the Koran, which is perfect in its every syllable, and simply read it
with the eyes of faith. You will see how little compassion need be wasted
on those whom God himself is in the process of “mocking,” “cursing,”
“shaming,” “punish
On 7/15/2014 12:27 PM, John Clark wrote:
Yes, the Bible contains its own sadistic lunacy—but the above quotations can be fairly
said to convey the central message of the Qur’an—and of Islam at nearly every moment in
its history. The Qur’an does not contain anything like a Sermon on the Mount. No
On 14 Jul 2014, at 17:25, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal :
On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias :
Why do you need to see God to believe in God?
Why should you believe if you can know ? If you can't,
2014-07-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal :
>
> On 14 Jul 2014, at 17:25, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
>
>
>
>
> 2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal :
>
>>
>> On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias :
>>
>>> Why do you need to see God
From: Quentin Anciaux
Well I can accept such language in mathematics where you make clear what is
meant, not in every day use when someone says he *believes* in god, that's
not what he meant... That's what I don't like in your approach to insist using
I like men. Well, most men. (There are bad apples in every barrel...)
On 15 July 2014 23:44, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
> Poor you.
>
> It must be very hard to live with such insane hate against men.
>
> It must hurt you a lot. You need help.
>
> 2014-07-15 13:05 GMT+02:00, LizR :
> >
> http://ww
On 14 Jul 2014, at 19:59, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/14/2014 7:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Jul 2014, at 15:09, David Nyman wrote:
On 12 July 2014 20:34, meekerdb wrote:
Of course they wouldn't because "17 is a prime number" is a
tautology. It's
true simply in virtue of it's meaning lik
On 14 Jul 2014, at 20:43, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/14/2014 10:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 14 Jul 2014, at 02:07, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/13/2014 11:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Then, look at my preceding post to you. I don't know for Tegmark,
but computationalism excels in differentiating and
Dear Samiya, thanks unlimitedly for your kind and information-laden
response that opens eyes (mine included). I fell into political turmoil at
an early age (WWII) and struggled to learn how to make a living in
science/technology. I learned Latin and Gothic alphabets at 4-5 (on my
own), Cyrillic and
sounds interesting-how is performance/maintenance?
Cars can be transitioned to electric power pretty easily. I just bought a
Chevy
Volt and
over the first thousand miles we've burned less than 7gal of gas.
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Some quoted passages from Alan Watts (author of The Wisdom of Insecurity -
1951) regarding the distinction between belief and faith that seemed pertinent
to me to several of the discussion threads going on here.
Chris
Quoting him:
We must here make a clear distinction between belief and
On 7/15/2014 7:23 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
Some quoted passages from Alan Watts (author of The Wisdom of Insecurity - 1951)
regarding the distinction between belief and faith that seemed pertinent to me to
several of the discussion threads going on here.
Chris
Quot
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On 7/15/2014 7:23 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everyt
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