Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-16 Thread meekerdb
On 3/16/2015 1:27 PM, LizR wrote: On 17 March 2015 at 08:08, PGC multiplecit...@gmail.com mailto:multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote: That */is/* funny because now, Bruno has to justify why for example any grey diplomat/politician, say Angela Merkel is among the funniest comedians on the

Re: Price promotion for Amoeba's secret

2015-03-16 Thread LizR
I already have one of course, but if you can give me a link to the relevant web page I'll let anyone I think might be interested know about it. On 17 March 2015 at 12:34, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: Just a heads up that I'm running a price promotion on the US Amazon Kindle

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-16 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:26 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net w Suppose you substituted for Watson's database one learned entirely from the Conservapedia. Then Watson would be quite incompetent, Yes, and it would behave quite stupidly too unless it recognized the self contradictions in it's

Re: Humans Hold Anti-AI, Anti-Robot Protest in Texas

2015-03-16 Thread LizR
Elon Musk and Ned Ludd sound oddly similar. On 17 March 2015 at 05:49, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: http://en.yibada.com/articles/19837/20150316/humans-hold-anti-ai-robot-protest-sxsw-texas.htm I wonder how long before AIs hold an anti-human protest. Cheers Telmo. -- You

Re: The Weakness of Panpsychism?

2015-03-16 Thread LizR
My apologies obviously you did mean finite. This is very interesting although probably too much for my brain at the moment. What is all the stuff about S(S(0)) and {}, {{}}, etc? Doesn't that define finite numbers? On 17 March 2015 at 05:39, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 15 Mar

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-16 Thread meekerdb
On 3/16/2015 4:32 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: you've exaggerated the example to create a straw man. Watson has some local database, he doesn't access the web for everything; so my analogy is correct.

Re: Price promotion for Amoeba's secret

2015-03-16 Thread LizR
So people living outside the USA get it for $6.83? (I assume for a kindle there's no delivery charge!) On 17 March 2015 at 12:47, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: I think the sales tax depend on which state you live in... as Amazon cannot know it in advance, the price is without

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-16 Thread LizR
On 17 March 2015 at 08:08, PGC multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote: That *is* funny because now, Bruno has to justify why for example any grey diplomat/politician, say Angela Merkel is among the funniest comedians on the planet... Her degree is in Physical Chemistry (surprise aristotelian

Re: Carroll and Motul

2015-03-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Mar 2015, at 02:07, meekerdb wrote: An excellent talk by Sean Carroll explicating where the gaps are in Everett's MWI as applied to cosmology and providing a solution to the Boltzmann brain problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TFy6Ben0Ho Note that toward the end he seems to

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:34 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Well of course laughing AT people you dislike is a classic bullying technique. And then you say oh come on it was only a joke! Yet bullies never make jokes about themselves, because they are often humourless sociopaths. I

Re: Galen Strawson: Consciousness myth

2015-03-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Mar 2015, at 20:37, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: http://www.the-tls.co.uk/tls/public/article1523413.ece An interesting paper that reviews the history on consciousness in philosophy in order to display that Twenty years ago, however, an instant myth was born: a myth about a dramatic

Humans Hold Anti-AI, Anti-Robot Protest in Texas

2015-03-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
http://en.yibada.com/articles/19837/20150316/humans-hold-anti-ai-robot-protest-sxsw-texas.htm I wonder how long before AIs hold an anti-human protest. Cheers Telmo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from

Re: The Weakness of Panpsychism?

2015-03-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Mar 2015, at 21:29, meekerdb wrote: On 3/15/2015 10:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: We cannot define the notion of finite number This will make it very difficult to interpret the output of your computer. I guess you are joking. In case you are serious, you really should study a good

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Mar 2015, at 21:45, John Mikes wrote: Bruno wrote: Response to relation looks like Behaviorism, that is pure 3p. Consciousness usually denote the first person awareness. Where does your line#1 imply your line#2? That darn Behaviorism (I don't argue with your usage of words) may be a

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 00:34, LizR wrote: Well of course laughing AT people you dislike is a classic bullying technique. And then you say oh come on it was only a joke! Yet bullies never make jokes about themselves, because they are often humourless sociopaths. Dunno if this is on topic but

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2015, at 08:21, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 13 Mar 2015, at 17:57, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 13 Mar 2015, at 08:19, Telmo Menezes

Price promotion for Amoeba's secret

2015-03-16 Thread Russell Standish
Just a heads up that I'm running a price promotion on the US Amazon Kindle store for Bruno Marchal's Amoeba's Secret on Kindle starting on the 18th March US time (so basically the 19th for the rest of us), finishing on the 25th. So if you get in quick, you can snaffle a copy for 99 cents on the

Re: Humans Hold Anti-AI, Anti-Robot Protest in Texas

2015-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Subject: Re: Humans Hold Anti-AI, Anti-Robot Protest in Texas Elon Musk and Ned Ludd sound oddly similar. On 17 March 2015 at 05:49, Telmo Menezeste...@telmomenezes.com wrote: http://en.yibada.com/articles/19837/20150316/humans-hold-anti-ai-robot-protest-sxsw

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-16 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: you've exaggerated the example to create a straw man. Watson has some local database, he doesn't access the web for everything; so my analogy is correct. How is that a straw man?? The Jeopardy champagne Watson could't access the web

Re: Price promotion for Amoeba's secret

2015-03-16 Thread Russell Standish
Its here: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IRLEKPA I notice it currently advertised at $6.83. I don't understand how Amazon works - unless this is the usual US practice of advertising a price without sales tax, only to find that the real price is more like the $7.99 it is supposed to be. Cheers On

Re: Humans Hold Anti-AI, Anti-Robot Protest in Texas

2015-03-16 Thread LizR
. On 17 March 2015 at 05:49, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: http://en.yibada.com/articles/19837/20150316/humans-hold-anti-ai-robot-protest-sxsw-texas.htm I wonder how long before AIs hold an anti-human protest. Cheers Telmo. -- You received this message because you

Re: Price promotion for Amoeba's secret

2015-03-16 Thread Quentin Anciaux
I think the sales tax depend on which state you live in... as Amazon cannot know it in advance, the price is without tax... Regards 2015-03-17 0:52 GMT+01:00 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au: Its here: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IRLEKPA I notice it currently advertised at $6.83. I

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 13 Mar 2015, at 17:57, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 13 Mar 2015, at 08:19, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, meekerdb

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:11 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/15/2015 7:10 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:00 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/13/2015 10:26 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: or under anesthesia I'm not conscious You can't

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-16 Thread meekerdb
On 3/16/2015 12:33 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:11 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/15/2015 7:10 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:00 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-16 Thread meekerdb
On 3/16/2015 3:47 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:34 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com mailto:lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Well of course laughing AT people you dislike is a classic bullying technique. And then you say oh come on it was only a joke! Yet bullies never

Re: Galen Strawson: Consciousness myth

2015-03-16 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Am 16.03.2015 um 17:13 schrieb Bruno Marchal: On 15 Mar 2015, at 20:37, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: http://www.the-tls.co.uk/tls/public/article1523413.ece An interesting paper that reviews the history on consciousness in philosophy in order to display that Twenty years ago, however, an instant

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-16 Thread PGC
On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 6:03:37 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Mar 2015, at 00:34, LizR wrote: Well of course laughing AT people you dislike is a classic bullying technique. And then you say oh come on it was only a joke! Yet bullies never make jokes about themselves, because