Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 9:40:12 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > > > >> > Incompleteness disproves nominalism. Arithmetical truth was proven not > only to be not human defined, but to be not human definable. > (This is something I posted a few days ago in another forum.) >From Joel David Hamkins

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 2:43:39 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 9 May 2019, at 19:57, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > Is a theory of dark matter already lurking within TOA (Theory Of > Arithmetic) ready to be derived? > > > The goal was to explain where consciousness and matter com

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 3:49 PM Jason Resch wrote: > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 11:20 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > >> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 2:00 PM Jason Resch wrote: >> >>> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 9:52 PM Bruce Kellett >>> wrote: >>> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:40 PM Jason Resch wrote

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 2:55:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/12/2019 11:26 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 12:57:17 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 5/12/2019 1:35 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 9:21:45 PM UTC-5, Brent

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 11:20 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 2:00 PM Jason Resch wrote: > >> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 9:52 PM Bruce Kellett >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:40 PM Jason Resch >>> wrote: >>> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 9:04 PM Bruce Kellett < b

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

From: *Jason Resch* mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 12:26 AM Bruce Kellett mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote: From: *Jason Resch* mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>> To clarify, let me enumerate stages of the argument such that we can be clear which one we a

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 2:00 PM Jason Resch wrote: > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 9:52 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > >> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:40 PM Jason Resch >> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 9:04 PM Bruce Kellett >>> wrote: >>> From: Jason Resch On Fri, May 10, 2019 at

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 9:52 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:40 PM Jason Resch wrote: > >> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 9:04 PM Bruce Kellett >> wrote: >> >>> From: Jason Resch >>> >>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 6:02 PM Bruce Kellett >>> wrote: >>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 11

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:40 PM Jason Resch wrote: > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 9:04 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > >> From: Jason Resch >> >> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 6:02 PM Bruce Kellett >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 11:42 PM Jason Resch >>> wrote: >>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:1

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 9:04 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > From: Jason Resch > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 6:02 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > >> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 11:42 PM Jason Resch >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:16 AM Bruce Kellett >>> wrote: >>> Then with mechanism, we

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

From: *Jason Resch* mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 6:02 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 11:42 PM Jason Resch mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:16 AM Bruce Kellett mailto:bhkel

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

On 5/12/2019 11:26 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 12:57:17 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 5/12/2019 1:35 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 9:21:45 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 5/11/2019 6:58 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Satu

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

> On 9 May 2019, at 19:57, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 8:22:38 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 9 May 2019, at 13:03, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 5:34:29 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 3 May 2019, at 16:10

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

> On 9 May 2019, at 19:40, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/9/2019 4:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 4 May 2019, at 02:28, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/3/2019 1:35 PM, Terren

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

> On 9 May 2019, at 19:38, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/9/2019 4:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 4 May 2019, at 02:32, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/3/2019 2:00 PM, cloudv

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

> On 9 May 2019, at 19:27, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/9/2019 3:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 3 May 2019, at 19:09, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> I think that is right. But when you

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

> On 9 May 2019, at 19:06, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/9/2019 3:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 3 May 2019, at 15:27, Terren Suydam >> > wrote: >>> >>> One way to get around this is to hold that consciousness is associated w

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 12:31:12 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > Concerning mathematical logic and theology, an incredible book is: > > Cohen J. Daniel, 2007. Equations from God, Pure Mathematics and Victorian > Faith, John Hopkins Press, Baltimore. > > That book shows that the whole fie

Re: Aeon: "AIs should have the same ethical protections as animals"

> On 9 May 2019, at 16:23, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 5:22 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >> On 3 May 2019, at 15:27, Terren Suydam > > wrote: >> >> One way to get around this is to hold that consciousness is asso

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 12:57:17 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/12/2019 1:35 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 9:21:45 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 5/11/2019 6:58 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:52:36 PM UTC-5, B

Re: Church's Thesis

On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 10:49:14 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 9 May 2019, at 20:26, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 11:56:41 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 6 May 2019, at 01:40, cloud...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> *The Church-Turing thesis

Re: Bernardo Kastrup: "Analytic Idealism: A consciousness-only ontology) '

> On 10 May 2019, at 23:24, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/10/2019 6:24 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 9, 2019, at 17:53, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: >>> >>> On 5/9/2019 2:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ll sciences are born from theolog

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

On 5/12/2019 1:35 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 9:21:45 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 5/11/2019 6:58 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:52:36 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 5/11/2019 4:16 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Satu

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

> On 10 May 2019, at 15:38, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 7:53 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >> On 8 May 2019, at 17:44, Jason Resch > > wrote: >> >> SNIP >> >> OK. >> >> It is just that this is verified by “m

Re: Church's Thesis

> On 9 May 2019, at 20:26, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 11:56:41 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 6 May 2019, at 01:40, cloud...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> The Church-Turing thesis is one of the most useless ideas ever invented. > > > You know that? >

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 2:08 AM 'Cosmin Visan' < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> Sorry dude, your ignorance doesn't stand for lack of evidence. There is > plenty of evidence. And I will not even bother showing it to a woo woo like > you.* > You are a stereotypical internet fool, a di

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 3:35:03 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 9:21:45 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 5/11/2019 6:58 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:52:36 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/11/2019 4:1

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 9:21:45 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/11/2019 6:58 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > > On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:52:36 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 5/11/2019 4:16 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:06:31 PM UTC-5, B

Precision

‘I believe there are 15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555,468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185,631,031,296 protons in the universe, and the same number of electrons.’ Eddington, Arthur S. 1939. The Philosophy of Physical Science. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 1