Quantum promo supremacy

2019-10-04 Thread Philip Thrift
The "supreme" promotions of quantum programming/computing come from IBM (Qiskit). https://twitter.com/qiskit Quantum Games — Programming on Quantum Computers Ep 9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmCSxfrK_Mg @philipthrift -- You received this message

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-10-04 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 6:22:07 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > You can't deny > Hilbert space and keep MWI. > > > Brent > > QMT is neither (defined by) Hilbert space nor (MWI) many worlds. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1809.10427.pdf : Quantum Measure Theory (QMT) , at its basis, takes probab

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-10-04 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 1:10 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 3 Oct 2019, at 13:31, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > And there is no FTL action -- that would be a local hidden variable causal > explanation, and Bell rules that out. > > > This I do not understand, unless you bring t’Hooft super-determinism. I

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-10-04 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 10/4/2019 8:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sure it's "local" in Hilbert space.  But that's not what is violated in tests of Bell's inequality. No, but what is violated in Bell’s inequality is the idea that the state in Hilbert space describe a physical reality, In another post you just ex

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-10-04 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 10/4/2019 8:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I certainly missed the point! I cannot make much sense of the sentence "The wave function itself is non-local”. The wave-function of two entangled EPR particles is a function of two variables, which are space-like separate locations. Brent --

Re: Inflation

2019-10-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 7:32:32 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 4:50:12 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 5:34:42 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 3:31:31 AM UTC-6, Lawrenc

Re: Inflation

2019-10-04 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 7:54 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *> ISTM, that the argument the universe was NOT in thermo equilibrium just > before inflation is alleged to have begun, is extremely WEAK. Thus, it's > illogical to claim that inflation "smooths out" the alleged NON thermo > equiiibrium just befo

Wave structure of matter

2019-10-04 Thread Eva
Hello I wonder what you think about Milo Wollf proposals? There is not a lot crittical elaborations of his statemants on the internet. Here is one and very brief: http://www.paradigmshiftnow.net/fundamental_reality/critical_notes_on_Milo_Wolff.htm And here are his statemants in few words: "The

Re: Yes, it's true. Theoretical physics has become a lunatic asylum.

2019-10-04 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 10/4/2019 12:03 AM, smitra wrote: On 04-10-2019 08:20, Philip Thrift wrote: On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:56:59 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:12 AM Philip Thrift wrote: On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 5:51:29 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 8:24 AM

Re: Yes, it's true. Theoretical physics has become a lunatic asylum.

2019-10-04 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 10/3/2019 11:49 PM, smitra wrote: On 04-10-2019 00:51, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 8:24 AM Lawrence Crowell wrote: This really is a well enough explained question. LC Energy conservation is not violated because to correctly sum up the total energy, you have to weigh t

Re: Yes, it's true. Theoretical physics has become a lunatic asylum.

2019-10-04 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 8:28:56 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 4 Oct 2019, at 00:53, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > The question is about quantum many worlds. Not cosmology. > > > Cosmology assumes the quantum at a cosmological scale, and it is where a > collapse makes the less s

Re: Yes, it's true. Theoretical physics has become a lunatic asylum.

2019-10-04 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 8:12:38 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 3 Oct 2019, at 21:07, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > > > On 10/3/2019 10:44 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 12:39:09 PM UTC-5, Brent wrot

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Oct 2019, at 18:37, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 10/3/2019 2:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> No, Bruce's point is that it must be present at the start. Otherwise Bell's >>> inequality couldn't be violated. >> Bruce agree that there is no FTL action, that is l

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Oct 2019, at 13:31, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 7:08 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > On 1 Oct 2019, at 19:37, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > > > > wrote: > > On 10/1/2019 4:38 AM, Bruno Marchal w

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Oct 2019, at 12:19, John Clark wrote: > > Bruce Kellett mailto:bhkellet...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > >>> I don't know what you mean by 'realism'. > > >> If realism is true then things, like the spin of an electron or the > >> polarization of a photon, exist even when they are not being o

Re: Yes, it's true. Theoretical physics has become a lunatic asylum.

2019-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 Oct 2019, at 00:53, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > The question is about quantum many worlds. Not cosmology. Cosmology assumes the quantum at a cosmological scale, and it is where a collapse makes the less sense. Who would observe and be responsible for the collapse of the universal wave?

Re: Yes, it's true. Theoretical physics has become a lunatic asylum.

2019-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Oct 2019, at 21:07, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 10/3/2019 10:44 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 12:39:09 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 10/3/2019 6:29 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> > Why would the energy of a branch be

Re: Inflation

2019-10-04 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 4:50:12 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 5:34:42 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 3:31:31 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:13:22 PM UTC-5, Alan Gr

Re: Inflation

2019-10-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 5:34:42 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 3:31:31 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:13:22 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 7:05:12 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowel

Re: Inflation

2019-10-04 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 3:31:31 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:13:22 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 7:05:12 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:01:49 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crow

Re: Inflation

2019-10-04 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 4:31:31 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:13:22 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 7:05:12 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:01:49 PM UTC-5, Lawrenc

Re: Inflation

2019-10-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:13:22 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 7:05:12 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:01:49 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:59:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wro

Re: Yes, it's true. Theoretical physics has become a lunatic asylum.

2019-10-04 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 2:03:59 AM UTC-5, smitra wrote: > > On 04-10-2019 08:20, Philip Thrift wrote: > > On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:56:59 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:12 AM Philip Thrift > >> wrote: > >> > >> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 5:51:29

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 28 Sep 2019, at 14:55, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 4:18:58 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > You must have a special definition of "computable number". As I see it, other > than PI, e, and possibly a few other irrational numbers, no computer can > fu

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 28 Sep 2019, at 11:20, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 2:28:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 27 Sep 2019, at 18:42, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 10:31:02 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 27 Sep

Re: Yes, it's true. Theoretical physics has become a lunatic asylum.

2019-10-04 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 5:03 PM smitra wrote: > > The descendant worlds get the same energy if they have well defined > energy in which case computing the weighted average to get to the > expectation value is unnecessary. In general the expectation value will > need to be computed by this weighted

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 28 Sep 2019, at 11:18, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 2:28:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 27 Sep 2019, at 18:42, Alan Grayson > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 10:31:02 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 27 Sep

Re: Yes, it's true. Theoretical physics has become a lunatic asylum.

2019-10-04 Thread smitra
On 04-10-2019 08:20, Philip Thrift wrote: On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:56:59 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:12 AM Philip Thrift wrote: On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 5:51:29 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 8:24 AM Lawrence Crowell wrote: This really is

Re: Yes, it's true. Theoretical physics has become a lunatic asylum.

2019-10-04 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:49 PM smitra wrote: > On 04-10-2019 00:51, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > > The trouble I see with the explanation Sabine gives, which is probably > > the most common response to this question, is that it dilutes the > > energy in each branch according to the Born weight. Giv