Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

Wednesday, December 31, 2014 8:55 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: "Animals think like autistic humans" On 1 Jan 2015, at 2:52 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroup

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

day, December 31, 2014 8:55 PM *To:*everything-list@googlegroups.com <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com> *Subject:*Re: "Animals think like autistic humans" On 1 Jan 2015, at 2:52 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List mailto:everything-list@googlegroups

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: "Animals think like autistic humans" On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote: >>You seem to be saying that we can do nothing new about thinking. No, not that at all. I am saying that first we need to understand what thinking really is and move

RE: "Animals think like autistic humans"

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kim Jones Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 8:55 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: "Animals think like autistic humans" On 1 Jan 2015, at 2:52 pm, 'Ch

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

On 12/31/2014 8:55 PM, Kim Jones wrote: You are describing skill-acquisition. You could just as well point to someone learning to play scales in time to a metronome. This requires careful monitoring - by thinking - of perception, otherwise there is risk that the wrong algorithm or faulty algori

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

thing-list@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: "Animals think like autistic humans" > > On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > Thinking, however, is a highly evolved skill of many parts involving values > and beliefs and motivations and agendas and theories and risk-taking.

RE: "Animals think like autistic humans"

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:30 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: "Animals think like autistic humans" On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote:

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

On 12/31/2014 6:52 PM, Kim Jones wrote: On 1 Jan 2015, at 1:13 pm, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 12/31/2014 5:52 PM, Kim Jones wrote: On 1 Jan 2015, at 11:30 am, meekerdb > wrote: On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote: Thinking, howe

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

> On 1 Jan 2015, at 1:13 pm, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 12/31/2014 5:52 PM, Kim Jones wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1 Jan 2015, at 11:30 am, meekerdb wrote: >> On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote: Thinking, however, is a highly evolved skill of many parts involving values and beli

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

On 12/31/2014 5:52 PM, Kim Jones wrote: On 1 Jan 2015, at 11:30 am, meekerdb > wrote: On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote: Thinking, however, is a highly evolved skill of many parts involving values and beliefs and motivations and agendas and theories and r

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

> On 1 Jan 2015, at 11:30 am, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote: >> Thinking, however, is a highly evolved skill of many parts involving values >> and beliefs and motivations and agendas and theories and risk-taking. >> Lifting a cup to your lips to swallow a liquid

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote: Thinking, however, is a highly evolved skill of many parts involving values and beliefs and motivations and agendas and theories and risk-taking. Lifting a cup to your lips to swallow a liquid requires no thinking. The skill is embedded since infancy, so

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

It's not about thinking. It's about perception. Savants and animals have a perception of reality that others may have lost, yes. As always, you need to be clear about what is perception (pattern recognition) and what is thinking (designing some form of action in the future). All living things ha

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

Thanks for that Brent. Temple Grandin is one of my heroes. On 1 January 2015 at 09:27, Jason Resch wrote: > I've been fascinated by people with savant-like abilities, especially in > the visual/spatial area (e.g. http://www.stephenwiltshire.co.uk/ ). I > wonder if when human's evolved language o

Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

I've been fascinated by people with savant-like abilities, especially in the visual/spatial area (e.g. http://www.stephenwiltshire.co.uk/ ). I wonder if when human's evolved language or other abstract reasoning abilities, they might have lost what was formerly an innate ability in all people (and s