On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 11:43, Mark Neill wrote:
> > This is not true. Deleting a message in evolution, then accessing the
> > imap folder with outlook shows the deleted message message. At least
> > with Exchange as the imap server.
> >
> > Deleting a message in outlook and going into the folde
You can configure Outlook to not show deleted messages
Outlook has 2 "modes" for IMAP, 1 is where they show deleted messages
and the other is where they move deleted messages to a Trash folder.
Jeff
On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 11:08, Dwight Hubbard wrote:
> On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 18:04, Jeffrey Stedfa
> This is not true. Deleting a message in evolution, then accessing the
> imap folder with outlook shows the deleted message message. At least
> with Exchange as the imap server.
>
> Deleting a message in outlook and going into the folder with evolution
> does not show the message deleted with
On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 18:04, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > Second, a different IMAP mailer on a
> > different machine, say emacs or outlook, won't know anything about evo's
> > virtual folder; all it could do is to look at the unexpunged email.
> > That's undesirable since a user would need to s
On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 13:08, Scott Otterson wrote:
> Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > There really isn't a "standard IMAP trash folder" thing.
>
> Hmm... yes, I suppose the IMAP standard doesn't require a trash folder.
>
> > We use a virtual Trash folder, but we might add support for a physical
>
> Any chance that a true IMAP trash
> folder could be implemented sooner than 1.2 or 1.4?
No. 1.0 has been feature-frozen for quite a while now.
-- Dan
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Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> There really isn't a "standard IMAP trash folder" thing.
Hmm... yes, I suppose the IMAP standard doesn't require a trash folder.
> We use a virtual Trash folder, but we might add support for a physical
> trash folder for maybe 1.2 or 1.4 or something.
I looked at ho
Sorry. That last message was re-sent by accident.
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ECTED]> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eric Lambart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:51 PM
> > To: Zot O'Connor; NotZed
> > Cc: Evolution List
> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] IMAP Trash
Food for thought, some minor discussion about IMAP.
http://perso.club-internet.fr/ffaure/imap.html
"Windows IMAP clients
...
NETSCAPE
...
To delete e-mails in your remote mailboxes, select them and hit DEL,
followed by File | Compress this folder.
...
EUDORA
...
Deleting e-mails in your
10/24/2001 11:26:52 AM, Mike Sangrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 13:51, Bret Mogilefsky wrote:
>
>> My suggestion? Rename "Trash" to "Deleted Items" and put it down among the
>> vFolders. (You can pick something shorter/more specific than "Deleted
>> Items", as long as it
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 02:26:52PM -0400, Mike Sangrey wrote:
> On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 13:51, Bret Mogilefsky wrote:
> > My suggestion? Rename "Trash" to "Deleted Items" and put it down among the
> > vFolders. (You can pick something shorter/more specific than "Deleted
> > Items", as long as it d
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 13:51, Bret Mogilefsky wrote:
> My suggestion? Rename "Trash" to "Deleted Items" and put it down among the
> vFolders. (You can pick something shorter/more specific than "Deleted
> Items", as long as it doesn't confuse with "Trash".) If, as some have
> suggested, traditio
Bret Mogilefsky wrote:
>On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 01:09:24PM -0400, Mike Sangrey wrote:
>
>>Also, if you stick `Trash' down in `vFolders' I would have assumed THAT
>>`Trash' folder had something to do with stuff deleted out of `vFolders'
>>and that REALLY gets confusing.
>>
>
>I think this is the p
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 02:08, Rich Rudnick wrote:
>
> What metaphor has a piece of paper in two places simultaneously?
>
> In real life, I take an object from one location (a folder), and place
> it in another (a trash basket). It cannot exist in both places at once.
If you "Hide Deleted Messag
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 01:09:24PM -0400, Mike Sangrey wrote:
> Also, if you stick `Trash' down in `vFolders' I would have assumed THAT
> `Trash' folder had something to do with stuff deleted out of `vFolders'
> and that REALLY gets confusing.
I think this is the problem: The term "Trash" has a m
10/24/2001 10:09:24 AM, Mike Sangrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't think people would think `vTrash' is anymore a typo than
>`vFolders'. And the `v' leans toward a commonly accepted convention.
>At least it "feels" that way to me.
>
>Also, if you stick `Trash' down in `vFolders' I would h
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 09:50, Eric Lambart wrote:
> 10/24/2001 9:03:59 AM, Mike Sangrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >How about instead of "Trash" it's called "vTrash"?
> >
> >Sometime in the future (after 1.0) you could enable the user to choose
> >either a "Trash folder" or a "vTrash folder".
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 12:50, Eric Lambart wrote:
> 10/24/2001 9:03:59 AM, Mike Sangrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >How about instead of "Trash" it's called "vTrash"?
> >
> >Sometime in the future (after 1.0) you could enable the user to choose
> >either a "Trash folder" or a "vTrash folder".
10/24/2001 9:03:59 AM, Mike Sangrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How about instead of "Trash" it's called "vTrash"?
>
>Sometime in the future (after 1.0) you could enable the user to choose
>either a "Trash folder" or a "vTrash folder".
Yeah, I seriously think the best (and SAFEST) interim soluti
How about instead of "Trash" it's called "vTrash"?
Sometime in the future (after 1.0) you could enable the user to choose
either a "Trash folder" or a "vTrash folder".
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"The first one last wins."
"A net of high
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 07:04, Dan Winship wrote:
> You will eventually be able to do trash the "normal" way.
>
> http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6061
>
Oooh! Hallelujah!
I'm really surprised considering the dismissive response to the
suggestion by some of your colleagues.
I can wait
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 01:24, John N S Gill wrote:
> On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 07:08, Rich Rudnick wrote:
> >
> > What metaphor has a piece of paper in two places simultaneously?
>
>
> I get the impression I'm missing something here about the way you are
> working with evolution.. but I can't figur
You will eventually be able to do trash the "normal" way.
http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6061
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scenario 1: manually run filters, all trash is removed whether you want
it to be or not. There is no option not to expunge. I have a bug
raised about this.
Scenario 2: you move around a lot and check your email via IMAP via a
number of mail readers. They treat trash in a normal fashion (i.e.,
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 07:08, Rich Rudnick wrote:
>
> What metaphor has a piece of paper in two places simultaneously?
hmm.. that would break the theory of relativity.
but, I don't see evolution as broken. View the trash folder as all
messages in all folders that are marked for deletion.
You h
On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 18:19, Eric Newman wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eric Lambart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:51 PM
> > To: Zot O'Connor; NotZed
> > Cc: Evolution List
> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] I
Hmmm... so maybe there should be:
a) a clear indication that Trash is not a real folder. I only discovered it when it
was too late and my messages were
gone. Displaying "Trash (vFolder)" in the folder bar would make sense to me.
Although, to be consistent, Trash should
probably be grouped
On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 17:50, Eric Lambart wrote:
> 10/23/2001 4:56:20 PM, "Zot O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I have not seen a client do this behavior, I thought most POP client did
> >a local move to Trash (like a IMAP move).
>
> Most POP clients do. I sure wish Evo did it this way.
10/23/2001 4:56:20 PM, "Zot O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This was not meant as flame blait. I am shocked the evo would do this,
>unless other clients are doing this.
>
>I have not seen a client do this behavior, I thought most POP client did
>a local move to Trash (like a IMAP move).
M
There is no such thing as an IMAP move.
Jeff
On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 19:56, Zot O'Connor wrote:
> This was not meant as flame blait. I am shocked the evo would do this,
> unless other clients are doing this.
>
> I have not seen a client do this behavior, I thought most POP client did
> a local m
This was not meant as flame blait. I am shocked the evo would do this,
unless other clients are doing this.
I have not seen a client do this behavior, I thought most POP client did
a local move to Trash (like a IMAP move).
On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 16:45, NotZed wrote:
>
> Can you please take you
Can you please take your off-topic flame-bait elsewhere?
>
> >
> > The folder called "Trash" that appears in your IMAP folder tree is
> > actually a vfolder of all messages with the "deleted" flag set in all
> > your IMAP folders.
> >
> > I think that currently, if you have a real folder name
>
> The folder called "Trash" that appears in your IMAP folder tree is
> actually a vfolder of all messages with the "deleted" flag set in all
> your IMAP folders.
>
> I think that currently, if you have a real folder named "Trash" on your
> IMAP server, there's no way to see it.
WOW isn't th
On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 07:39, Ed Wilts wrote:
> I've got procmail running on my IMAP server, and some messages are being
> refiled into the Trash. However, Evolution doesn't seem to be able to
> see any messages in the Trash folder - it seems like this folder is
> special. Is this intentional? I
I've got procmail running on my IMAP server, and some messages are being
refiled into the Trash. However, Evolution doesn't seem to be able to
see any messages in the Trash folder - it seems like this folder is
special. Is this intentional? It does make it next to impossible to
empty the IMAP T
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