Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-14 Thread Greg Kelley via evolution-list
I would still like to see first message auto selected when opening app or selecting different folder. This is how Thunderbird has worked for years and I typically hit to remove unwanted or quickly read (from preview panel) messages. Clicking on highlighted (but not selected) message before is an

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 13:34 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 13:28 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list > wrote: > > Help  Contents  Getting Started  Shortcut keys > > Hi, > eventually Help->Keyboard Shortcuts. Yes, however F6 is much harder to

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-13 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 13:28 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote: > Help  Contents  Getting Started  Shortcut keys Hi, eventually Help->Keyboard Shortcuts. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-13 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 12:23 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 12:24 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > > > By the way, a single F6 key press moves the focus to the message > > list > > too here. > > So I see. I had no idea. I wonder how many people know that. Help  Contents 

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 12:24 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 12:03 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > What about the Enter key? That feels like a good candidate. When > > > pressed while being in the folder tree, 'enter' the folder by > > > moving > > >

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-13 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 12:03 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > What about the Enter key? That feels like a good candidate. When > > pressed while being in the folder tree, 'enter' the folder by moving > > focus to the message list. > > > > That sounds reasonable. Hi, I added it for

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-12 Thread Ángel
On 2021-07-10 at 12:11 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 13:41 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list > wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 10:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I do have "Show Deleted Messages", yet if I delete a message it > > > disappears from the

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-12 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 12:02 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > So there's no attempt to synchronise the local changes with the > server when the connection is re-established? Hi, I'd need to check that out, I'm sorry. There are surely more occasions when the local changes are saved to

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 11:25 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 12:00 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Does this have any data loss implications if > > the system (or Evo) should crash before the save happens? > > Hi, > folder changes are saved both

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-12 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 12:00 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Does this have any data loss implications if > the system (or Evo) should crash before the save happens? Hi, folder changes are saved both locally and to the server (when being online) at the same time. Thus any changes being

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 13:41 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 10:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I do have "Show Deleted Messages", yet if I delete a message it > > disappears from the list a second or two later (not instantly). > > Hi, > there

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 13:49 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 10:57 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > That's not what I see. If I select a different folder and do > > nothing > > else, one message is highlighted but not selected. The arrow keys > > move up and

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 13:41 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 10:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I do have "Show Deleted Messages", yet if I delete a message it > > disappears from the list a second or two later (not instantly). > > Hi, > there

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 10:57 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > That's not what I see. If I select a different folder and do nothing > else, one message is highlighted but not selected. The arrow keys > move up and down the folder list instead of the message list. Hi, I rally meant when

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 10:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I do have "Show Deleted Messages", yet if I delete a message it > disappears from the list a second or two later (not instantly). Hi, there had been a feature request to support Undo in the Mail view, but it was never

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 11:33 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > So presumably Gmail interprets the "Set Deleted Flag" IMAP operation > as being "Label as Trash" and so only shows the message in the Trash > folder. Hi, it's not Gmail causing the move, it's the real trash setting in Evolution, which

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 11:33 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > > I tend to just click twice on the read/unread indicator at the > > > left - > > > the first click marks it unread, which clears the delete, then > > > the > > > second marks it read again. Damn sight easier than navigating > > >

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > > > I tend to just click twice on the read/unread indicator at the left - > > the first click marks it unread, which clears the delete, then the > > second marks it read again. Damn sight easier than navigating menus! > > That won´t work unless you set "Show Deleted Messages" and don´t use

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 21:50 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 11:41 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > I'd vote for that. I sometimes hit the Del key when looking at some > > other window without realizing that Evo has focus, thus deleting a > > message. It can be

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 07:20 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 11:29 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I agree that highlighting without selecting is confusing. I often > > hit > > an arrow key to move to the next message and instead find myself > > moving to

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 08:47 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > Alternatively, make undeleting easier using a shortcut, e.g. Shift- > > Del, > > but I think that would be a good deal harder to implement. > > > I tend to just click twice on the read/unread indicator at the left - > the first

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-09 Thread Pete Biggs
> > Alternatively, make undeleting easier using a shortcut, e.g. Shift-Del, > but I think that would be a good deal harder to implement. > I tend to just click twice on the read/unread indicator at the left - the first click marks it unread, which clears the delete, then the second marks it

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-08 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 11:29 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I agree that highlighting without selecting is confusing. I often hit > an arrow key to move to the next message and instead find myself > moving to the next folder. I find this very counter-intuitive. Hi, I tried it here,

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-08 Thread George Reeke
On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 11:41 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'd vote for that. I sometimes hit the Del key when looking at some > other window without realizing that Evo has focus, thus deleting a > message. It can be recovered of course but it's annoying. > That wouldn't happen if you

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-08 Thread George Reeke
On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 09:09 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 12:57 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > Unless there is a good reason, I'll plan on submitting a feature > > request to allow Delete to work anyplace where Ctrl-D works. > > Hi, > I would not do

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 09:09 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 12:57 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > Unless there is a good reason, I'll plan on submitting a feature > > request to allow Delete to work anyplace where Ctrl-D works. > > Hi, > I would not do

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-08 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 12:57 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > Unless there is a good reason, I'll plan on submitting a feature > request to allow Delete to work anyplace where Ctrl-D works. Hi, I would not do that. In fact, there were ideas to disable the Delete key completely, because it's

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-07 Thread George Reeke
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 10:11 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 22:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I don't really see why it doesn't work like this. > > With respect of the Delete itself, there are two shortcuts to do it. > One is the Delete key press,

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 15:13 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 12:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Yes, I see. It's still very visually ambiguous as they both appear > > to > > be selected. > > Hi, > I agree, though it's a question of the theme. I

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 12:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Yes, I see. It's still very visually ambiguous as they both appear to > be selected. Hi, I agree, though it's a question of the theme. I do not like unfocused GtkTreeView draws as focused, in contrast to the message list,

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 10:11 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 22:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I don't really see why it doesn't work like this. > > Hi, > if I understand this properly, then the problem is where the focus is > placed when the

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-07 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 22:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I don't really see why it doesn't work like this. Hi, if I understand this properly, then the problem is where the focus is placed when the window opens. It happens to be in the folder listing, not in the message listing (it

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 09:44 -0600, larry wrote: > On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 11:29 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-07-05 at 06:47 -0400, Geek wrote: > > > When selecting a folder or starting evolution, the first message > > > in > > > the list is highlighted but not selected. If you

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-06 Thread larry
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 11:29 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2021-07-05 at 06:47 -0400, Geek wrote: > > When selecting a folder or starting evolution, the first message in > > the list is highlighted but not selected. If you try to delete, > > nothing happens. You must first select

Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-07-05 at 06:47 -0400, Geek wrote: > When selecting a folder or starting evolution, the first message in > the > list is highlighted but not selected. If you try to delete, nothing > happens. You must first select (click or tap) on the message to > delete > it. If autoselected, you

[Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-06 Thread Geek
When selecting a folder or starting evolution, the first message in the list is highlighted but not selected. If you try to delete, nothing happens. You must first select (click or tap) on the message to delete it. If autoselected, you should be able to delete the first message without selecting