Well I am not a legal speagle by any means, but the disclaimer issue it bad
joke. The true responsibility of who the message went to is in the hands of
the sender. If the message was addressed correctly then the need for
disclaimers would be a non-issue.
Sorry I watched this thread long enough
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
However, that might be due more to the fact that there isn't
much to steal there!
(My parents used to live right next door in Acworth.)
Ed
And all those guns must be worth a bob or two.
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 June 2003 12:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
There's plenty to steal - just look at all the appliances and cars
. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Seems like that disclaimer (I do
.
- Original Message -
From: Steve Molkentin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:57 PM
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Ben,
I agree... Sadly, due to all the legal eagles rubbing their hands in
glee over more
Hey, where can I get some of that underwear?
-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 June 2003 16:34
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
I asked my wife about this, since she is an attorney strapping on
flame
Sounds like it must be a real quite neighborhood
From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:27:42 -0400
My guess
Lowest crime rate in the nation, I understand.
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Sounds like it must be a real quite neighborhood
From
- legal disclaimers
I asked my wife about this, since she is an attorney strapping on
flame-retardent underwear and her opinion was that it is used for its
insurance value. If you sent the formula for Coke to the wrong person by
accident it is accepted by the courts that it is common sense
Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Sounds like it must be a real quite neighborhood
From: Roger Seielstad
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris H
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
I asked my wife about this, since she is an attorney strapping on
flame-retardent underwear and her opinion
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
It apparently has one of the lowest property crime rates in the area. But
that's not the point. I'd love to see that court
*Has* anyone tested email disclaimers in the courts in the UK, EU or US?
I'm not aware of any cases.
I do find it ironic that lawyers, who knowingly write in a way that most
people do not find clear, should be concerned that the disclaimer should be
written so as to be understood by any
LOL, yes lawyers will be first against the wall when the revolution
comes...closely followed by accountants
-Original Message-
From: Shotton Jolyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 June 2003 14:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
*Has
know that. Esperanto
is a bit too leading edge.
-Original Message-
From: Shotton Jolyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 June 2003 13:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
*Has* anyone tested email disclaimers in the courts in the UK, EU or US
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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Yup, Greek and Double-Dutch are in the list of languages that need to be
covered. Web links are unacceptable since there is no way of checking
whether the recipient clicked the link, or they might
Well you could probably format the link to let you track the clicks.
But as we know, noone reads these things anyway so it really shouldn't
matter - not that that will placate your legals, of course.
Perhaps some good might come of this - if It was in a language I couldn't
understand. becomes an
: Shotton Jolyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Well you could probably format the link to let you track the clicks.
But as we know, noone reads these things anyway so it really
What about Klingon and Elvish? Google is available in both, so people
must speak it. Should we not then make disclaimers available in these
languages too?
themolk.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:13 AM
To: Exchange
Well I am not a legal speagle by any means, but the disclaimer issue it bad
joke. The true responsibility of who the message went to is in the hands of
the sender. If the message was addressed correctly then the need for
disclaimers would be a non-issue.
Sorry I watched this thread long enough
: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 9:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Well I am not a legal speagle by any means, but the
disclaimer issue it bad joke. The true responsibility of who
the message went
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 13:28
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Scott, and others,
I totally get your point, and to some degree agree.
An interesting addition...
The Australian federal govt recently (last year
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers
Seems like that disclaimer (I do not give permission to
forward) would be unnecessary. If the law requires express
permission then the absence of any
: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
Just found out.. they don't like love
Now.. who wants to work for a company where love is a forbidden word.
_
List posting FAQ: http
: Stupid disclaimers
Just found out.. they don't like love
Now.. who wants to work for a company where love is a forbidden word.
_
List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives: http
Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B. van
Ouwerkerk
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
Just found out.. they don't like love
Now.. who wants to work for a company where love
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B. van
Ouwerkerk
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
Just found out.. they don't like love
Now.. who wants to work for a company where love is a forbidden word
, March 22, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
Closing the loop, Buddy was of course in the Herbie, the Love Bug
movie.
-- Original Message --
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL
No, it's The Fabulous Bud-E-Luv. Check him out at:
www.budeluv.com/
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
All the ladies know me
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
All the ladies know me as Buddy Love.
_
List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com
Wow, if my content filters would have flagged this message for
administrative review, I would have been in violation of federal criminal
law... In the country of Bullshitia I guess.
On 3/19/03 9:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NEXTERNA E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
This
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stupid disclaimers
Wow, if my content filters would have flagged this message for
administrative review, I would have been in violation of federal
criminal law... In the country of Bullshitia I guess.
On 3/19/03
Discussions
Subject: RE: Stupid disclaimers
Now now, remember, my City is filtering on only two words, F*** and
S***. Why we don't filter on other, much more obscene words then that
is beyond me :)
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
-Original
'
Subject: ScanMail Message: To Sender, sensitive content found and action
taken.
Trend SMEX Content Filter has detected sensitive content.
Place = Exchange Discussions; ; ; Exchange Discussions
Sender = Ed Crowley
Subject = RE: Stupid disclaimers
Delivery Time = March 21, 2003 (Friday) 22:38:41
Policy
Not only stupid disclaimers, but also stupid filters.
I wonder what triggered the filter, love or mushrooms :)
B.
At 22:57 21-03-2003 -0800, you wrote:
Guess they don't like the shitake mushrooms.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs
:
Not only stupid disclaimers, but also stupid filters.
I wonder what triggered the filter
_
List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
Came across the post last week about the MS VBS Article. I need to find a
product to do this. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best/most user
friendly 3rd party software package to add an email disclaimer to all email?
Any thoughts/experience would be appreciated.
TIA,
Steve Iadarola
Interscan message security suite from TrendMicro does a fine job.
-Original Message-
From: Steve Iadarola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 1:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E-Mail disclaimers for Exch2k
Came across the post last week about the MS
www.exclaimer.co.uk
www.disclaimit.com
William
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steve Iadarola
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Came across the post last week about the MS VBS Article. I need to
www.exclaimer.co.uk
www.disclaimit.com
William
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steve Iadarola
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Came across the post last week about the MS VBS Article. I need to
Following KB articles:
317680 - Add a Disclaimer to Outgoing SMTP Messages in Visual Basic Script
288756 - SMTP Transport Event OnArrival Does Not Fire For MAPI Messages
I've followed the procedures in the above two articles and can't seem to get
a disclaimer working. If I telnet to my
Discussions
Subject: E-Mail disclaimers; exch2000
Following KB articles:
317680 - Add a Disclaimer to Outgoing SMTP Messages in Visual Basic
Script
288756 - SMTP Transport Event OnArrival Does Not Fire For MAPI Messages
I've followed the procedures in the above two articles and can't seem to
get
. You can
often get out of simple negligence with a warning or disclaimer.
- If you are grossly negligent, all the disclaimers in the world will not
change that. In fact, they may serve to make your situation worse by
highlighting that you were well aware of the risks to which you were
exposing
A recurring topic seems to be about adding disclaimers to outgoing messages
and I have seem various recommendations about software to do this.
But I would like to know how effective are disclaimers?
Do they actually have any legal standing
Subject: Disclaimers
A recurring topic seems to be about adding disclaimers to outgoing
messages and I have seem various recommendations about software to do
this.
But I would like to know how effective are disclaimers?
Do they actually have any legal standing
x194
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Mark Dewell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disclaimers
A recurring topic seems to be about adding disclaimers to outgoing
messages and I have seem various
To paraphrase Sam Goldwyn - Email disclaimers aren't worth the paper they're
written on
Chris Quinn
IT Manager
Blue Planet Aquarium
-Original Message-
From: Mark Dewell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 December 2002 17:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disclaimers
A recurring
Our General Counsel thinks they're silly. Off the record.
-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:14 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Disclaimers
Subject: RE: Disclaimers
Excuse me, I'm not sure
Ooh! Ooh! Mr. Kotter, Ooh! Ooh!
http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
-Original Message-
From: Mark Dewell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:03 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Disclaimers
Subject: Disclaimers
.
Nice site, Tom!
William
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Meunier
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Ooh! Ooh! Mr. Kotter, Ooh! Ooh!
http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
-Original
a CYA in that you
can point to the disclaimer and say Hey, it's right there on the message
telling them it was confidential. It's that guy's fault.
Will that stand up in court? Maybe. As far as I know it hasn't been tested
yet.
I doubt the disclaimers, at this stage, have much of a deterrent
I'm using a helper-app called OE-QuoteFix that does a pretty good job of formatting
the incoming messages for reading. It color
codes reply messages, subdues disclaimers and sigs, and turns all of the LOL, ROFL,
:-), etc into little smiley-faces, among other
things.
Alex
William Lefkovics
-app called OE-QuoteFix that does a pretty good job
of formatting the incoming messages for reading. It color
codes reply messages, subdues disclaimers and sigs, and turns all of the
LOL, ROFL, :-), etc into little smiley-faces, among other
things.
Alex
William Lefkovics wrote:
| There used
Ask your Legal and Compliance Dept. I would love to hear what they say.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Dewell
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 12:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disclaimers
A recurring topic seems
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disclaimers
There used to be a silly little Outlook add-on called Trimmer that
someone wrote. It would delete content from the message body based on
parameters provided before displaying the message in Outlook. I might
try to recreate that whereby all text
Search the archives
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mitchell Mike
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: confidentiality disclaimers
Good morning,
Outlook 98 exchange 5.5 sp4
My management
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David N. Precht
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: confidentiality disclaimers
and a matching hat for this response.
(:=
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: confidentiality disclaimers
Thanks for your contribution. It was right
Oooh Ed is gonna look good at MEC with that wardrobe!
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 4:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: confidentiality disclaimers
Starts off mellow, but builds to a crescendo
.
(:=
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 7:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: confidentiality disclaimers
Oooh Ed is gonna look good at MEC with that wardrobe!
-Original Message-
From
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: confidentiality disclaimers
Oooh Ed is gonna look good at MEC with that wardrobe!
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 4:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: confidentiality
See the FAQ
Good morning,
Outlook 98 exchange 5.5 sp4
My management staff has decided they wanted a low cost way to put
confidentiality disclaimers on
the bottom of all eMAILs that are created by our users. They want they to
go during the send
process where the user has
Good morning,
Outlook 98 exchange 5.5 sp4
My management staff has decided they wanted a low cost way to put
confidentiality disclaimers on
the bottom of all eMAILs that are created by our users. They want they to
go during the send
process where the user has no control over them at all
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: confidentiality disclaimers
Good morning,
Outlook 98 exchange 5.5 sp4
My management staff has decided they wanted a low cost way to put
confidentiality disclaimers on
the bottom of all eMAILs
Absolutely nothing. . . I still think that disclaimers are a totally useless annoyance.
-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Of course it is - what's to stop me
12:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Absolutely nothing. . . I still think that disclaimers are a totally useless
annoyance.
-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject
Oh shit I'm putting that one on mine from now onComedy Gold Sir
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Tullis
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I think the following
offends you, lighten up, get a life and move on.
-Original Message-
From: Tim Tullis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I think the following disclaimer says it all:
DISCLAIMER: The information
welcome :)
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Oh shit I'm putting that one on mine from now onComedy Gold Sir
-Original Message-
From
Excellnetconsider it stolen g...
-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 1:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Sent to me by a co-worker:
DISCLAIMER:
This Email message does not reflect the thoughts
See then, that's OK - we agree :)
-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 17:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Absolutely nothing. . . I still think that disclaimers are a totally useless
annoyance
Of course we do.
Besides which, I don't enjoy being publicly flogged. Agreeing with you is the best
way to avoid that.
Darcy
-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Yeah yeah, whatever :)
When, pray tell, have we ever disagreed?
Or were you just waiting for it to be in private?! :)
-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 23:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Of course
. ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Yeah yeah, whatever :)
When, pray tell, have we ever disagreed?
Or were you just waiting for it to be in private?! :)
-Original
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Hmmm. Maybe the SPAM-filter people have it all wrong, and what they
should really be doing is pattern-matching on variations of this is not
an unsolicited e-mail
Opting-In on some exciting offers for herbal viagra in Pittsburgh
Jim Helfer
-Original
I should probably butchering all of my massages too, so they be thinkink I
not have an IQ above 68 too?
-Original Message-
From: Charles Carerros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
If you get a lawyer
I don't understand how this relates to disclaimers one way or another.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles
Carerros
to be me, but I
never me if it isn't.
-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't understand how this relates to disclaimers one way or another.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet
I hereby claim or disclaim that I am stupid.
-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't understand how this relates to disclaimers one way or another.
Ed Crowley
:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't understand how this relates to disclaimers one way or another.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL
, 2002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I wasn't clear..sorry palm pilot has taken up two days because I cant
get it to sync..and I'm way beyond being frustrated bye it..
But to clarify.
Adding a disclaimer to an e-mail is like adding a citation to item under
Wouldn't the easiest solution to all of this be killing all lawyers?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Also, I could simply claim
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Also, I could simply claim that I am not bound by contracts which I did
not sign. Copyrights (note the spelling) are enforceable
now youre trying to get on my good side
;-)
bill
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Wouldn't the easiest solution to all of this be killing all lawyers
: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Also, I could simply claim that I am not bound by contracts which I did
not sign. Copyrights (note the spelling) are enforceable by law. You
could, I imagine
, Bill
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
now youre trying to get on my good side
;-)
bill
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I figure there's that town in the southwest that has the annual
rattlesnake round up. Where they capture as many rattlesnakes and then
kill them. Couldn't we have something like that for lawyers
We are going to start putting disclaimers on emails because HIPPA and
government told us too if we want to stay in business. :\
-Original Message-
From: Charles Carerros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
That used to happen out around Brothers, in Eastern Oregon. I think though
that they may have had to phase that out due to the PETA folks. Note, I
don't think there is a similar protective organization for lawyers...
-Original Message-
From: Christopher
of HIPAA.
Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr
-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
We are going to start putting disclaimers on emails because HIPPA
Wickieup AZ
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hummert
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I figure there's that town in the southwest that has the annual
rattlesnake
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
We are going to start putting disclaimers on emails because HIPPA and
government told us too if we want to stay in business. :\
-Original Message-
From: Charles Carerros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:58
Yes everything I write is protected, but then if you copy it, I disavow it
and its yours.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I figure there's that town
, June 07, 2002 2:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't remember seeing anything in HIPAA that requires a disclaimer.
(Although I did say in an earlier email, that we'd do it, too, because of
HIPAA.) Actually, we'll do it but encrypt anything with PHI in it.
Eric, I
Someone needs to create a program that strips the disclaimer of before
you get it. Actually everyone who think disclaimers are a good thing
need to realize that e-mail is transmitted in plain text so anyone
scanning can check it out
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There is another reason for disclaimers that include things like if you are not the
intended recipient. Forwarding. I questioned the head of our legal department on
the need for a disclaimer, and he said that it is primarily to protect us *after* the
message has left our control
Only after we've dealt with all the list trolls.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 19:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
Wouldn't the easiest solution to all of this be killing all lawyers
If you mean HIPAA, would you care to quote the parts about disclaimers?
-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 20:43
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
We are going to start putting disclaimers on emails
The idea of you constantly referring to hippa doesn't make me happy.
-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 22:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
I don't think it would hold up either I'm just doing what
07, 2002 23:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: stupid disclaimers
There is another reason for disclaimers that include things like if you are
not the intended recipient. Forwarding. I questioned the head of our
legal department on the need for a disclaimer, and he said that it is
primarily
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