RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Mailbox limits are 300MB warning, 320MB no send, 350MB no send/receive. Am I being to strict??? I also have deleted item retention set for 14 days. I figured these are pretty typical limits? From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05,

Merge mailbox

2009-05-06 Thread Glen Johnson
Ex2003 here. We have an employee that left and an existing employee has been assigned to the job the ex employee had. The replacement needs all the emails that were in the account of the ex employee. Can or should I exmerge the ex employee mail to a PST and then re-import this PST into the

RE: Merge mailbox

2009-05-06 Thread Sobey, Richard A
Hi Glen When you run exmerge - either in import or expert mode - you will be given the option to merge, copy, replace or archive the items. Explanations of each option are given within the program. We use exmerge a fair bit to perform the actions you describe below. Personally, I use merge the

RE: Merge mailbox

2009-05-06 Thread Louis, Joe
Yes you can do that, but be careful on your option selections (read them carefully) and be sure to only select the mailbox that you intend. You may want to run the two step option; not deleting the contents. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:57 AM

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
Limits here are 2Gb, lots of large proposals with large pdf attachments that people need to keep for 100 years (joke). ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Louis, Joe
Least it's not forever /snicker From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Limits here are 2Gb, lots of large proposals with large pdf attachments that people need to keep for 100 years (joke).

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
True :) but way past my lifetime! ___ Stefan Jafs From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Least it's not forever /snicker From: Stefan Jafs

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Nope, not in my opinion... 60MB warn 70MB no send 80MB no receive except if your an exec, then 200MB limitation The Exchange server is NOT a file server... From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:27 AM To:

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
How many users what industry? For many users Outlook is the application they use 90% of the time as long as you have the storage and capacity why severely limit the usage? Outlook is a very nice application to keep track of your daily, past and future activities. My highest user is at about 1 GB

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
400 users, retail. Outlook is a very nice application to keep track of your daily, past and future activities. Yep, but Exchange is an email server. If you want to move MB files around, that's what FTP servers are for. If you want to keep MB files around, that's what file servers are for.

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread David Mazzaccaro
WOW. What size is/are the store(s)? From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving 400 users, retail. Outlook is a very nice application to keep track

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Stefan, Do you find with these high limits that users get outlook is trying to retrieve data from the microsoft exchange server message? As I've increased our limits, I see this more and more (cached and non cached clients, local, citrix, doesn't matter) From:

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
About 38GB. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving WOW. What size is/are the store(s)? From:

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
There was an article brought up here not too long ago referencing that it's not the size of the messages, but rather the number of messages that can affect Exchange performance. ... Can't lay my hands on it right at the moment... From: David Mazzaccaro

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Aha! Here it is... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc535025.aspx From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving There was an article brought

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
No but then again my infrastructure is pretty good, I'm also all virtual and E2K7 and Outlook 2007! And I think most users are running in cached mode. ___ Stefan Jafs From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
Yes most of my users are using many subfolders so the 5,000 limit is not a problem, ___ Stefan Jafs From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Aha! Here

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Thanks! From the article: For rarely used operations, such as creating a new sort order or selecting a folder for the first time, response times of up to one minute are acceptable. Ugh...yeah.. right.. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent:

Total messages handled by Exchange

2009-05-06 Thread Barsodi.John
So I have a request from my management to start tracking total Messages handled by Exchange on a monthly basis. I know there are software packages like Quest MessageStats that will easily produce this for me, however we have $0 in the budget for this. Wondering if anyone has had to produce

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread William Lefkovics
As long as they are not using 5000 subfolders. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:26 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Yes most of my users are using many subfolders so the 5,000 limit is not a problem,

RE: Total messages handled by Exchange

2009-05-06 Thread Campbell, Rob
I run a PS script that does this. It runs as a scheduled task in the early am, pulls the message tracking logs for the previous day, and reads through the log entries and accumulates the message counts into a csv. At the end of the month, it pulls all the daily csv's back in and creates a

RE: Total messages handled by Exchange

2009-05-06 Thread Eric Wittersheim
cool From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Total messages handled by Exchange I run a PS script that does this. It runs as a scheduled task in the early am, pulls the message

RE: Total messages handled by Exchange

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
www.promodag.comhttp://www.promodag.com 30 days free. ___ Stefan Jafs From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Total messages handled by Exchange So I have a request from my

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Jafs
Some are getting close, no seriously many have 100 + subfolders. ___ Stefan Jafs From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving As long as they are not

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Don Andrews
We tell 'em - save the attachment, delete the email - email is not a file transfer system nor a file storage system. From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 6:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange

RE: Total messages handled by Exchange

2009-05-06 Thread Barsodi.John
Interesting... are you running this on each Hub Transport server? I have HT servers all over the world, so I'd have to run this locally and then copy to a central location then do more data massaging. How are you handling the totaling? Are you doing this manually or by script? How many HT

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Don Andrews
We're at 75, 85 100mb - exceptions on case by case basis - 10mb max msg size - we have an in-house browser based secure file transfer system for larger files. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 5:40 AM To:

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Don Andrews
I'll echo that - we're about 60K+ users - retail also. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving 400 users, retail. Outlook is a very nice

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Atta boy Don! From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving We tell 'em - save the attachment, delete the email - email is not a file transfer system nor

RE: Total messages handled by Exchange

2009-05-06 Thread Campbell, Rob
I've only got 3 HT servers, all within one state, and well connected. I'm running it on one server and having it pull the logs from the other servers. Running it locally on each one should be easily do-able. You'll just have to add some code at the end to copy out the resulting file to a

RE: Total messages handled by Exchange

2009-05-06 Thread Campbell, Rob
Sorry, that last line in the script should have been $totalmsgs += $stats.msgcount From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Total messages handled by Exchange

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread William Lefkovics
Here, it is both a file transfer system and a storage system accessed through a PIM portal (Outlook in most cases). From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving We tell 'em - save

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Campbell, Rob
I've got users that do that. I ask them if they have a file cabinet mounted on a post at the end of their driveway. From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:27 AM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com wrote: Mailbox limits are 300MB warning, 320MB no send,  350MB no send/receive. Am I being to strict??? Does it meet your business requirements? If it does, then you're not being too strict. It's all about

Re: Merge mailbox

2009-05-06 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Glen Johnson gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote: We have an employee that left and an existing employee has been assigned to the job the ex employee had. The replacement needs all the emails that were in the account of the ex employee. When this happens, what I

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:32, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:  We've found that creating a separate hard disk partition and putting the OST (and just the OST) on that partition helps a lot.  I suspect part of that is filesystem fragmentation.  The Windows defrag utility can't cope with

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread will...@lefkovics.net
I have no idea why that question would be relevant. I am really just playing devil's advocate and I don't have the big company issues that Don has at safeway. But why isn't an e-mail system a file transfer and storage system? Especially if that is what the market wants. This isn't Sendmail

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread John Cook
Because it's a database app with performance limits as opposed to a file server. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: will...@lefkovics.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Wed May

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Campbell, Rob
IMHO, using a mailbox for data storage is bad practice because data files are departmental, and belong on a file server in a departmental data directory that's permanent and is designed for data storage. Mailboxes are personal, and are usually deleted when the user leaves.

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Jason Gurtz
But why isn't an e-mail system a file transfer and storage system? The transfer problem may never be solved--at least until SMTP v2 comes out--but I bet if Exchange had a feature like SQL 2008's FILESTREAM then storage would no longer be an issue. Or maybe yEnc MIME extension will gain traction

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Moss, Susan K
In some companies mailboxes are not personal - that data is the property of the company and may be preserved for as long as deemed necessary. From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 2:20 PM To: MS-Exchange

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread will...@lefkovics.net
Indeed... it is far better than a lowly file server. From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Exchange archiving Because it's a database

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread William Lefkovics
Indeed, we shouldn't limit storage to one's mailbox. Exchange 2010 brings a sort of tiered mailbox to the picture with rudimentary archiving. It's like storing your archive.pst on the Exchange Server. From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread John Cook
Defraged your DB lately?? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: will...@lefkovics.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Wed May 06 14:51:02 2009 Subject: Re: Exchange archiving

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
But why isn't an e-mail system a file transfer and storage system? A Bugatti isn't a semi-truck either. From: will...@lefkovics.net [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Heh... not here. Exported to PST, burned to CD and stashed away somewhere... From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving IMHO, using a

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
So you're trading a filing cabinet for a trash compactor... From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving Indeed, we shouldn't limit storage to one's

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Don Andrews
Here they are personal (as opposed to functional) but for business use, not personal use - if that makes sense - and the data, mailbox, workstation and software are company property. From: Moss, Susan K [mailto:sm...@cas.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Campbell, Rob
That makes sense. We're a big enough company that we have people moving around from one department to another, but keeping the same mailbox. We had at least one case where someone went from HR to another department and kept their mailbox. Long story short - new supervisor requested and got

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Brian Dwyer
Exchange 2003 (moving to 2007 soon) 14,000 users, 3 mailbox servers, 15 DB's, approx 2 TB data, growing at rate of 100 GB month. 75% of users OWA, 25% Outlook 2003 in cached mode. No Quotas,or retention periods enforced, no archiving. Sounds like a horror story but very few performance

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Sean Martin
I think I understand William's point... Exchange, especially 2007 and later, is more than capable of handling larges amounts of data. If a company chooses to use Exchange/Outlook as their primary method of sending/storing data, then it's not impossible to design Exchange for that purpose.

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Louis, Joe
I think that everyone recognizes that exchange may be able to handle it, but that's not the right tool for the job. The difference is considerably more than using a screwdriver as a chisel or a prybar. Especially when you take into accout the rest of the exchange infrastructure, user

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Glaman, Mark
We also have limits but we don't restrict the receive. that would be considered counter productive. It gets there attention when they cant send. Mark WTP project Richland Wa _ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Posted At: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 5:27

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: But why isn't an e-mail system a file transfer and storage system? Because it's a database app with performance limits as opposed to a file server. [This message is somewhat vague theory, somewhat devil's advocate, and

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
Not intending to delve into the vagaries of the ESE implementation; however, it is worthwhile to note that Exchange 2007 changed database internals to flatten the database and increase table performance; Exchange 2010 has made a large number of changes that continue to flatten the database

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Steve Szabo
But, a Lamborghini is a truck. See http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/LM002/index.html and http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/LM002/LM002Registry.html For a photo of one in the wild, see http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ajilling/SBAUB05/Pics.htm, fourth picture down. \\Steve// From:

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
That registry is well out of date..:) From: Steve Szabo [mailto:steve...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange archiving But, a Lamborghini is a truck. See http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/LM002/index.html and

Re: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 17:22, Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com wrote: Not intending to delve into the vagaries of the ESE implementation; however, it is worthwhile to note that Exchange 2007 changed database internals to flatten the database and increase table performance;

RE: Exchange archiving

2009-05-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
I've not tested it personally, but the goal I heard was to support 20 GB mailboxes on fully utilized 1.5 TB (and larger) SATA disk where all the content of the mailbox is in the Inbox, Sent Items, and Deleted Items folders. It seems somewhat miraculous, but only in comparison to what we've had