RE: GoDaddy.com

2009-06-10 Thread Simon Butler
The GoDaddy certificates have been trusted in Firefox since March 2007. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/certs/included/ However if you do not install the certificates as per the instructions from GoDaddy then you will see trust issues. Personally I have deployed about 200 of the

RE: GoDaddy.com

2009-06-10 Thread Peter Johnson
I use digicert and never had an issue until myu last deployment of Exchange 2007 on Windows 2008 From: Young Rex [mailto:rexer...@mac.com] Sent: 10 June 2009 06:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: GoDaddy.com You get what you pay for. Rex Young On

Microsoft Forefront...anyone using..opinions

2009-06-10 Thread Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)
I apologize if this came through a second time but didn't see it get posted. I have a off topic subject. We have the opportunity to possibly adjust our license agreement with Microsoft that will entitle us to Forefront both hosted and on Premise solution for next to nothing. We went through

Re: Microsoft Forefront...anyone using..opinions

2009-06-10 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
I used it a very little bit at my last job (also an EDU.) I barely got into the testing phase though, so I don't really feel I can offer much feedback. From what I saw of it, I wasn't all that impressed. We used it on our CAS/HT and it seemed to work fine there. But I didn't feel like it was

Re: GoDaddy.com

2009-06-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
If they aren't trusted in a default state, then that isnt really trusted. The key here is non-user interaction. -- ME2 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: The GoDaddy certificates have been trusted in Firefox since March 2007.

RE: GoDaddy.com

2009-06-10 Thread Andrew Greene
Funny �re talking about this ��� I just installed a GoDaddy cert about 20 minutes ago to setup a user���s new Pre (it actually w�t work right now without using SSL� works great, my iPhone didn���t complain and the Pre hasn���t either. So far so good. Andrew Greene IS Technician

Re: GoDaddy.com

2009-06-10 Thread Young Rex
Exactly! And what purpose is using a non-trusted CA? We use VERISIGN. Rex Young On Jun 10, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: If they aren't trusted in a default state, then that isnt really trusted. The key here is non-user interaction. -- ME2

RE: GoDaddy.com

2009-06-10 Thread Sam Cayze
The key here is non-user interaction. The user doesn't need to do anything for GoDaddy Certs. There is just one extra step to take on the server during install. The admin has to do the interaction, one-time. Not the user. GoDaddy certs work perfectly fine. -Sam

RE: GoDaddy.com

2009-06-10 Thread Kennedy, Jim
+1 It is just how you install it on the server. Nothing else to roll out or do. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GoDaddy.com The user doesn't need to do anything for GoDaddy Certs. There is just

Re: Microsoft Forefront...anyone using..opinions

2009-06-10 Thread David Baca
Pete, I am using forefront hosted filtering in my environment and have found it to be a good product. It does all of our filtering. We host our own mail and don't use the on-premise solution. I know they have had an issue once in a while with their smart host(which i don't use). They have

Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Roger Wright
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10260879-2.html Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: Microsoft Forefront...anyone using..opinions

2009-06-10 Thread Joe Pochedley
Pete, We've been using the hosted Forefront for Exchange for the past 18 months or so... Prior to that we were using a locally hosted Barracuda box for spam AV filtering... We switched to Forefront for basically the same reasons (changing our EA brought it along basically for free). So far

Exchange 2007 SMTP setup

2009-06-10 Thread Senter, John
Trying to build out the new Exch 2007 and test current functionality. We have hub transport servers and no edge servers. I have set the Default connector to receive anonymous connections as described in several docs. The accepted domains at exchange.company.com. My current issue is testing

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Carl Houseman
Around 1.75 million businesses are using Google Apps? 1.75 million USERS I would believe, not businesses. Exchange in your local shop may be doomed, MS wants you to buy it as a cloud service too. It was only a matter of time before somebody came up with reasonable competition. Carl

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I dont know if I'd say doomed, but the upcoming features that Google Apps will be pushing are going to be a killer for a lot of smaller organizations. Microsoft wants you into the cloud too, but Google is doing it better IMHO. The desktop, remote/offline (via Google Gears), and mobile integration

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread James Wells
I'd say that Exchange MAIL is doomed. But really, Exchange has never enjoyed market share for MAIL. It's integration, calendar/scheduling, archiving and compliance that have kept it at the top. Google has a long way to go to replace EVERY feature that business (especially Enterprise IT) relies

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread William Lefkovics
All the major competitors have Outlook plugins. The many open source solutions, like Zimbra Collaboration Suite, used to market that they were 'exchange killers' because they were able to minimize the impact of changing to their server product on the user experience. It never really materialized

OWA with RSA

2009-06-10 Thread Cameron Cooper
We are using RSA with OWA and just started to have this issue today. When a user logs in with their username and then the RSA token, it authenticates without any problem. The problem comes in when trying to load the OWA mailbox page and the user receives the following: I've checked the

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Campbell, Rob
I can't see any company that handles any kind of confidential customer information letting their corporate email outside the firewall. From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
So none of your corporate email goes to mobile devices or is done from home/remote locations? -- ME2 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: I can’t see any company that handles any kind of confidential customer information letting their

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Louis, Joe
I just find it hard to believe that Google will be replacing Exchange at the corporate end. While that may be their goal, they've been saying that for many years. The same holds true for the MS Office cloud model. Where they are making inroads are at a number of public schools, colleges, etc

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread William Lefkovics
I used it once. From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed? Around 1.75 million businesses are using Google Apps? 1.75 million USERS I would believe, not businesses. Exchange

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread David W. McSpadden
Not sure if it is really reasonable yet. Still needs to be used for a little while yet. - Original Message - From: William Lefkovics To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed? I used it once. From: Carl

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Campbell, Rob
All mobile devices are company owned, and home/remote work is done via vpn into a TS or Citrix session. Nothing is stored on any device that doesn't reside on-site, or that we don't have the ability to wipe remotely. From: Micheal Espinola Jr

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Joe Pochedley
I too find it hard to believe that Gmail would be replacing Exchange in any organization that really uses Exchange for more than passing email messages back and forth... Gmail just doesn't have the same feature set yet... I use gmail to host my own personal domain and I have a number of

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread William Lefkovics
Most shops I know use Exchange for MAIL. Specifically because of the interaction between Outlook and Exchange. The competitive marketing material for Lotus Notes proudly declares that comparing Exchange and Notes is like Apples and Oranges - Exchange is just a MAIL platform and Notes is a

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Kennedy, Jim
FWIW, MS does the same for schools. Their EDU Live is actually pretty cool. We have not moved to it but it is pretty interesting. It also includes web based office that runs pretty darn well and looks/feels very much like the full office. And a bunch of storage for their stuff. From: Louis,

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:01, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.com wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10260879-2.html Oh *hell* no. I catch that on someone's machine, and I'm going to their manager and have them written up. Company data stays on company equipment. Kurt ~ Ninja Email

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread William Lefkovics
I was with you right up to the 'Gmail is great' part and then I tasted some throwup in my mouth. From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed? I just find it hard to believe that

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Louis, Joe
Can you imagine calling Google because you just got served with a discovery request? Or needing to recover a piece of mail/mailbox? Sent from my mobile... On Jun 10, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:23, Carl Housemanc.house...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Steve Ens
Was that what I smelled? On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:53 PM, William Lefkovics will...@lefkovics.netwrote: I was with you right up to the ‘Gmail is great’ part and then I tasted some throwup in my mouth. *From:* Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10,

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Kurt Buff
I'm about ready to propose shutting down OWA. Our SSL VPN is just too useful. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:53, Micheal Espinola Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote: So none of your corporate email goes to mobile devices or is done from home/remote locations? -- ME2 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Sam Cayze
Nobody mentioned the interesting fact that Google licensed EAS from Microsoft? Google licensed EAS from Microsoft. There it is. I don't think MS is worried. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:23, Carl Housemanc.house...@gmail.com wrote: Around 1.75 million businesses are using Google Apps?  1.75 million USERS I would believe, not businesses. Exchange in your local shop may be doomed, MS wants you to buy it as a cloud service too. It was only a

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Louis, Joe
Naw. Different CC. I'm curious though as to what 3rd party Exchange vendors think about this article. None of the ones that I deal with are scaling back on their offerings on the fear that Google/Cloud computing will replace Exchange. Stu? From: Joe Pochedley

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Joe Pochedley
If you mean MCC, then yes. :) From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed? OCC the school? From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:35 PM

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Maglinger, Paul
I believe there is too much corporate paranoia for a 3rd party email solution on large companies. Small and medium businesses however... From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread William Lefkovics
There are reasons it is offered for free. It is still in beta, isn't it? When you go down the list, it seems there is a lot that their Outlook connector cannot do: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=147751 From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com]

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
There is also the decision that needs to be made regarding a company's ability to live with down time. When dealing with SaaS there is more to it than simply the vendor's uptime, there are all the other systems between the company site and the provider. I know we would never change over to SaaS

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Lots of competing companies license technology like that from each other. That doesnt minimize any need to worry. -- ME2 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: Nobody mentioned the interesting fact that Google licensed EAS from Microsoft? Google licensed

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
This I agree with. And I dont think anyone at Google or Microsoft is thinking otherwise at this point. Surely there are potential Enterprise and Legal needs that will never be met with a cloud solution (or at least not for a very long time). -- ME2 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Maglinger,

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread Don Andrews
But google would never . . . umm again . . . umm get caught.oh -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is Exchange Doomed? On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:01, Roger Wright

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-10 Thread William Lefkovics
Wouldn't surprise me. darn seafood buffet. Smelled similar to Google Customer Service. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is Exchange Doomed? Was that what I smelled? On Wed, Jun 10, 2009

OT: Ninja - attachment filtering

2009-06-10 Thread Cameron
Greetings all! We have just purchased both Ninja and Vipre and so far have Ninja installed and configured (awesome tech support Stu!!) but I'm wondering what everyone is filtering and if I'm missing something glaring. I've done some google-fuing and have the following list setup already. If

RE: Ninja - attachment filtering

2009-06-10 Thread Don Andrews
Gee, we just tell ours to block executables and it determines by the file format. (solves the ol' rename as well as rename and zip as well as rename and zip and rename etc.) -Original Message- From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:48 AM To:

RE: Ninja - attachment filtering

2009-06-10 Thread Glen Johnson
Don't know if it can do it but I'd rather only allow what I know through and block everything else. Much easier to keep up dated. -Original Message- From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: Ninja -

Re: Ninja - attachment filtering

2009-06-10 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
This might be a better question to post on the Ninja Email Security forum at supportforums.Sunbeltsoftware.com On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.comwrote: Gee, we just tell ours to block executables and it determines by the file format. (solves the ol' rename as

Synching GAL List

2009-06-10 Thread Chris Pohlschneider
Hello, I have been tasked with trying to sync our Exchange GAL with our parent companies Exchange Server GAL. We do have a trust setup and both forests are Active Directory 2003 running Exchange 2003 Enterprise with SP2. It appears that the IIFP tool is an option, but I did not know if there

Re: OT: Ninja - attachment filtering

2009-06-10 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:48, Cameroncameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all! We have just purchased both Ninja and Vipre and so far have Ninja installed and configured (awesome tech support Stu!!) but I'm wondering what everyone is filtering and if I'm missing something glaring.

RE: Microsoft Forefront...anyone using..opinions

2009-06-10 Thread Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe)
Thanks gentlemen: We are mostly interested in the hosted spam solution since it does have a quarantine area and would keep the traffic from hitting our network. We were also looking at on-premise Barracudas, Ironport, ProofPoint and Symantec all of which are somewhat expensive so if we can

RE: OT: Ninja - attachment filtering

2009-06-10 Thread Joe Frederick
If you do go this route, make sure your block *.* rule is last in the rules pipeline. Please check out the Ninja forum at http://supportforums.sunbeltsoftware.com/categories.aspx?catid=29enterc at=y Joe Frederick, MCSE, CCNA QA Engineer Sunbelt Software -Original Message- From: Joe

Re: OT: Ninja - attachment filtering

2009-06-10 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
and make sure *.* doesnt unwittingly allow *.*.* through, etc. -- ME2 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Joe Frederick j...@sunbelt-software.comwrote: If you do go this route, make sure your block *.* rule is last in the rules pipeline. Please check out the Ninja forum at

RE: Exchange 2007 SMTP setup

2009-06-10 Thread Matthew Bullock
By default Exchange 2007 doesn't allow you to send outbound. You need to create a new send connector - these should help: http://www.petri.co.il/configuring-exchange-2007-send-external-email.htm http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998936.aspx -mb From: Senter, John