We already have send connectors, that is not the issue. The issue is the
shared mail domain of company.com. Exchange 2003 allowed IMAP/POP clients to
send from the company.com e-mail address but Exchange 2007 is not since it is
not listed as a accepted domain. That address is the users
It sounds like you do need to set this up as an Internal Relay Domain.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb676395.aspx looks like it
describes setting up a shared name space that covers your scenario.
From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com]
I created new recipient policies to replace the legacy one's from our 55
days. During that process I had to add another domain for our of our
business units. So I did an apply to all.
We have 5 different exchange servers and I have 11 recipient policies.
The users are being stamped and created
Was just curious if I was being unreasonable to my Sales department with my
firm stand on 10 meg.
Thanks,
Dennis
~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
I think that you're very generous actually, I limit size to 5mb.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dennis Melahn den...@advancedav.comwrote:
Was just curious if I was being unreasonable to my Sales department with my
firm stand on 10 meg.
Thanks,
Dennis
~ Ninja Email Security with
That's where we're at.
Sean Rector, MCSE
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
Was just curious if I was being unreasonable to
I have to agree with Sherry even though mine is 10mb. We have some reports that
go out that border that.
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
I
15.
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
I think that you're very generous actually, I limit size to 5mb.
On
Do they need larger attachments to do their job? If yes, then either you are
being unreasonable or your company is being unreasonable by not providing you
the budget to support the needed size.
Attachment size is a business decision and then IT should have the budget to
provide that business
I'm set at 20 MB. I think that's huge, but a handful of users do exchange
large files with external clients.
Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076 x388
_
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11,
30mb here - can send it from gmail, need to be able to receive something
equal.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.com wrote:
I'm set at 20 MB. I think that's huge, but a handful of users do exchange
large files with external clients.
Roger Wright
Network
That's what FTP is for, File Transfer Protocol, Exchange is an
email/calendering application. Setup and used properly, FTP is much more
secure than email.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org
wrote:
Do they need larger attachments to do their job? If
We're at 10 and I think it's too big - we have an easy to use secure
file transfer system in place for transferring files but users continue
to (mis) use email as a file transfer system.
-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 11,
Not in my opinion, but this will no doubt spark a flurry of responses.
I maintain that email is not for large file transfers. Note the words
file transfer, as in file transfer protocol or secure file transfer
protocal. That's what FTP servers are for.
'nuff said.
-Original Message-
And if you consistently need larger file delivery, look at shameless plug
YouSendIt Corporate Suite.
www.yousendit.com
Individuals http://www.yousendit.com/cms/solutions-individuals
Reduce the time it takes to send and receive large files and folders. Great
for designers, photographers,
We were never too keen on asking customers to deal with FTP. For example the VP
of Advertising for Eaton Corp or the CEO of Forest City Enterprises is just not
someone you would tell had to use FTP.
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:41 PM
Isn't there also overhead to consider? If you send a 10MB message, exchange
sees it as something like 12MB. Could an expert chime in on this?
From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum
Right on! - getting a bigger hammer to drive screws makes no sense to
me.
-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
Not in my
With the cost of disk space and bandwidth I see no reason to limit anything.
It's a lot easier than listening to,what happened to my email?. I have
sales people sending 50 meg attachments back and forth. Not fluff,
contracts and other business related things. We can't get in the way of
doing
Hmm, our top management has no problem with it - although the system we
have is browser based and looks sort of like yahoo mail without
advertisements.
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:46 AM
To:
Yeah try and get a bunch of sales people to ftp anything. They do what they
do and we do what we do. You can't expect them to use or even understand
the differences in protocols and applications.
M
-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Thursday,
IMO it depends on your type of business and how large your pipe is for sending
data. If it's vital for business then i would allow unless it begins to affect
all mail flow/usage of the web then ftp may be a better option.
David
From: Dennis Melahn
... a bigger hammer to drive screws... I love it.
-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
Right on! - getting a bigger hammer
Well...if you attach a 10 meg file, the resulting email
(particularly when converted to SMTP) is likely to be 12-15 meg or more.
From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE:
Like I said, setup and used properly FTP is much easier for everyone. We
have our users trained on how to upload to our FTP site, note the url for
the file and send the url to the person that wants the file via email.
You're not asking the VP of Advertising for Eaton Corp to use FTP, they are
Exactly!!! Nor would you ask a bunch of sales people unless you want the
dart board with your picture on it at the next sales meeting with the
minutes forwarded to the vp of sales with huge whining.
M
-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent:
Your point
-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
Well...if you attach a 10 meg file, the resulting email
I could not agree more Sherry... we have 20MB external/30MB uncompressed
archives(for virus scanning) and 50MB internal.
I think these are way too high Most admins forget the overhead of applying
policy and filtering to these large attachments which can lead to performance
degradation.
-
Your LDAP logic is a wee-bit off.. If I am reading this correctly, it says
any mailenabled object that's:
- any mailbox not on any server
- any mailbox on IZZYEmail
- any contact
- any PF, DL or DDL
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( (mailnickname=*)
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MIME encoding typically adds 20-30% overhead.
- Sean
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Scot Parsons spars...@scetv.org wrote:
Isn’t there also overhead to consider? If you send a 10MB message,
exchange sees it as something like 12MB. Could an expert chime in on this?
*From:* Louis, Joe
Just that if you want to allow 10MB attachments, you need to have a limit
higher than 10MB.
-Original Message-
From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in
It's real easy, being draconian doesn't and never has won any favors from
anyone. On the other hand if they want to play then they have to pay, but
don't limit them. Simple.
M
-Original Message-
From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:57 AM
To:
We limit it to 10 Mb, we have to archive EVERYTHING for 7 years and it adds up
fast.
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud
From: Sherry Abercrombie
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: Thu Jun
That would fall in the Derr folder. It aint 1998 any more. Gotta go
work check ya all later.
M
-Original Message-
From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in
We had a situation where a salesperson was trying to get a new customer.
The potential customer wanted to send a 15 meg attachment with the
product specs to our salesperson so we could get a quote back to him.
His email was bounced because of the attachment size limit. We asked
him to upload it
My experience, MIME/UUEncoding for transport across the Internet can easily
add 30% to the size of a message.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.comwrote:
Well…….if you attach a 10 meg file, the resulting email (particularly
when converted to SMTP) is likely to
Was a reply to Scot's question based on what I've seen.
-Original Message-
From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
Your point
-Original
a point to train your users on. That 10mb attachment on your workstation
will bloat to 13mb when it travels across the Internet.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Matt Moore mattmoore...@hotmail.comwrote:
Your point
-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews
I think I set it at 75 MB.
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
Was just curious if I was being unreasonable to my Sales
We have a Gmail account for these situations.
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud
From: Ralph Smith
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: Thu Jun 11 13:01:58 2009
Subject: RE: what is your
The voice of reason! =)
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
I think I set it at 75 MB.
-Original Message-
Yup - we tell em that if they even approach that size, they should not
be considering email - our internal users are automatically authorized
to use our Secure Messaging system (browser based, looks like email) -
sending to external user automatically creates an account for the
external user which
While I tend to agree with the stance e-mail isn't the medium for large
file transfers, the bottom line is that IT is meant to serve business
requirements. As someone said it before, if the users need certain
functionality to support the business, the business needs to give you the
resources to
We'd say, here, use this - it's easy and a better method of transferring
files.
From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in
Has it been 20 minutes already?
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
Was just curious if I was being unreasonable to my Sales
Of course, the limitations that others have implemented in their messaging
solutions have little to do with whether DM is being reasonable given the
balance of his firm's needs and resources.
Limits? Ya, whatever the receiving system accepts.
From: Sherry Abercrombie
The business need fits it. :)
I've got a ton of bandwidth and storage coming out of my ears. Let it rip
baby.
-Original Message-
From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum
I don't have a ton of bandwidth and/or storage. Based on all the feedback I
think I'll bump it to 20 MB for now and let mailbox size limits handle those
who choose to abuse.
Thanks,
Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday,
I used to be a customer.
From: Kat Collins [mailto:messagel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
And if you consistently need larger file delivery, look at shameless plug
YouSendIt
It's easy to criticize from the outside.
Decisions are made for various reasons often non-technical, but some technical.
Because users aren't educated does that mean, we as Admins, allow them to do it?
I often tell the support desk and other groups in our Dept - just because you
can, doesn't
In our email world, there are internal users and external users, which are all
viewed as potential customers. The mandate from the top is pretty clear: Do
what you have to for our employees but customers get to do anything they want.
We've got a 50MB default limit, but we lift it temporarily
I'm gearing up for our transition from Office 2003 to Office 2007. I'm
currently working on the new Group Policies and came across a particular
setting that has me a bit confused.
Within the Outlook 2007 Template:
User Configuration/Administrative Templates/Microsoft Office Outlook
How's your backup window?
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
The business need fits it. :)
I've got a ton of
I told you there'd be a flurry of discussion. :-)
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
I don't have a ton of bandwidth
I will disagree with that 20th century assessment. It is more like using a
different screwdriver.
If you want to setup and maintain a SFTP resource and the intended
recipients are willing to partake in this method of file transfer, then
great.
Perhaps that is best for you. Perhaps an HTTPS file
For those that are using an FTP solution for large file transfers, what
are you using? I am interested in an easy to use web based setup and any
details would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11,
We are using an Accellion solution. Integrates with AD, extensible,
Outlook integration for internal users, brandable. It's not FTP, but
an HTTPS solution.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Kelleher,
Kevinkevin.kelle...@mirotechnologies.com wrote:
For those that are using an FTP solution for
And being the non-technical buyer he is, he says, no problem, I'll just
stick with the methods and vendors I know. We can't even get a foot in
the door because we asked him to do something a little different.
Don't get me wrong, I prefer not to use Exchange as a FTP server, and I
still have a
We use Globalscape Secure FTP Server with the HTTP/S option. It works ok for
the price. Once your ftp admins understand how to set permission within it's
virtual file system then life becomes much better.
Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Kelleher, Kevin
Why don't you just set the size limit higher on her mailbox only ?
CFee
From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:55 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
We're using Tumbleweed's Secure Messenger - https based w/internet
access via reverse proxy. Internal users authenticated via AD (or
various flavors of LDAP), external users have local passwords. Shares
servers/databases with their Email Firewall product which we use. UI is
email like - send
That was an example; there are several people here with the same
situation (often the same emails). This may be my Exchange ignorance,
as I am far, far, far from being an Exchange expert, but when I tried to
do that it seemed as though messages coming in from the outside were
still being blocked
It sounds like there are message size limits set on your receive connectors.
From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
We limit to 10mbytes inbound (the default for postfix), and 20mbytes
(the default for E2k3) internally and outbound.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:24, Dennis Melahnden...@advancedav.com wrote:
Was just curious if I was being unreasonable to my Sales department with my
firm stand on 10 meg.
Hmm. On Exchange 2003 Standard, where do I find that? Under Routing
Groups I have no connectors, under SMTP virtual server properties the
Limit Message Size and Limit Session Size boxes are both unchecked. I
can't say definitively they were unchecked at the time, so if that is
what you are
No, it's completely unreasonable.
That's especially true if the money isn't there to support the infrastructure.
But, it's not merely the disk storage for Exchange.
It's also bandwidth for the rest of the users, both in the office, and
also the poor ba***rds on the road with RPC/HTTPS synching
And you're not now because...
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:30, William Lefkovicswill...@lefkovics.net wrote:
I used to be a customer.
From: Kat Collins [mailto:messagel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: what is your maximum message
Yes, the same bandwidth that is used for sending out email in my
organization is the same pipe that is used for income generating web based
traffic into my organization, so here the bottom line is don't do anything
to impede that pipe on that incoming side for that income generating web
traffic.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Kurt Buffkurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
That's especially true if the money isn't there to support the infrastructure.
Certainly, if one can't afford the infrastructure to implement
business demands, that's a time when IT has to push back. Pay up or
shut up.
1) How large a message can you send/receive with Gmail?
2) How many email exploits have relied on HTML and MIME encoding?
I guess I'm just another BOFH, but for email text rules, and the rest
I view with deep suspicion.
Kurt
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:13, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I have Exchange 2003 Enterprise SP2 on Windows Server 2003 SP2. A few of
our users have large mailboxes and I am enforcing limits on them. One
user copied about 4GB of folders into a pst file and her mailbox size
showed the size difference after that happened (reduced size). The user
You won't see it until 1. your deleted item retention period has passed, and
2. online defrag has completed, look for event 1221 in the app log on your
mailbox server. That will give you the free space in the db.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Chris Pohlschneider
I'm using the GUI in exchange 2003 to create these policies. Not sure
how to edit the ldap directly though the GUI, or which boxes to check to
remote the query for any contact and any PF,DL, or DDL
thanks,jb
From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
Globalscape SFTP. Been awhile since we set it up, but I seem to recall
it wasn't difficult.
-Original Message-
From: Kelleher, Kevin [mailto:kevin.kelle...@mirotechnologies.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Kurt Buffkurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
1) How large a message can you send/receive with Gmail?
Originally, 10 MB (when most ISPs were limiting to 2 MB). Three
years later, Gmail increased their limit to 20 MB. Others have gone
further. The world moves on.
2)
As I've been reminded on many occasions, IT spends money, the rest of the
company makes money. Upper management has always taken the position that we
should cater to the business side. They don't want to think about
computers, they just want to use them. Make it work so we don't have to
hear
yep
-Original Message-
From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: what is your maximum message size in exchange 2007
In our email world, there are internal users and external users, which are
all viewed
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 14:24, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Kurt Buffkurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
1) How large a message can you send/receive with Gmail?
Originally, 10 MB (when most ISPs were limiting to 2 MB). Three
years later, Gmail increased
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