Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread Hank .
But you forgot to mention that you get to give all of your data to someone else. Remember one of the most basic of about security is that you maintain physical control of your data. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Stephan Barr stephanbarr.li...@gmail.comwrote: Goggle Apps cost $50 per seat,

RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread Paul Hutchings
Actually Google's TC's are quite interesting, I'm surprised people are so willing to agree to them when it comes to their company data. From: Hank . [mailto:hgedr...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 August 2010 12:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to

RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread Martin Blackstone
True to a point. Let's face it, the cloud is here and one way or another you are going to end up there. Either you get on board or your CFO will for you. I will say if we were not a VAR, didn't have access to outstanding hardware, and didn't eat our own dogfood, I would put Exchange in the cloud

RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread Matt Moore
Oh yes! And not to just anyone, the biggest data miners in the world. From: Hank . [mailto:hgedr...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 4:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week. But you forgot to mention that

Removing Public Folder attributes with ADModify?

2010-08-22 Thread Paul Hutchings
I want to strip all RFAX addresses from all objects in our AD as we no longer use Rightfax. I used ADModify to remove RFAX=* from all the users and groups, I just wanted to be clear that to do the same for Public Folders it's the microsoft exchange system objects folder that I need to include?

RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread John Hornbuckle
Is there some evidence to indicate that if one uses Google to host their data, they're agreeing to allow Google to use their data? We use Google/Postini to archive our e-mail, and I saw nothing in our contract that would make the mining of our data by Google acceptable. And while I'm

Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread Stephan Barr
+1 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:15 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Is there some evidence to indicate that if one uses Google to host their data, they’re agreeing to allow Google to use their data? We use Google/Postini to archive our e-mail, and I saw nothing in

Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread Stephan Barr
My customers are (always) looking for ways to save money on IT and this qualifies. On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Stephan Barr stephanbarr.li...@gmail.comwrote: +1 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:15 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Is there some evidence to indicate

RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread Matt Moore
Would you trust the fox in the hen house? From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week. Is there some evidence to indicate

Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread Stephan Barr
You are already trusting your ISP and inherently their ISP and so on. but that's not the issue: The issue is cloud computing is cheaper,less complicated,arguably as secure,lighter,more portable and almost anyone can configure it. Do the math. On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Matt Moore

RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread David Lum
+1 I have clients on SBS 2003 and there aren't any of them that I spend more than 1-2hrs/yr on Exchange specific stuff (I doubt it comes to even that much). probably 90% of clients' IT costs are on the workstation side. E-mail antispam/antivirus cost is a good point but for my clients that

RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread John Hornbuckle
When it comes to the theft or unintentional leaking of data, most of the foxes are already in the henhouse because they're internal users. John From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 3:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange is

RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread Matt Moore
As always it boils down to a personal choice. If you feel good about advising others to use them, then do it. In all the dealings I've had with them, I'd rather not. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 3:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin

RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week.

2010-08-22 Thread Andy Shook
Well said Dark-rock. :) To give you a different perspective, Peak 10 has been doing cloud for a little over four years and the adoption rate is incredible. $SMBs to $Fortune200s (I deal with them all) are sick of capital outlay for hardware, they're tired of the of the IT cycle and just want