Someone was just asking for more info on this. I put this when I would know
where it was, so of course couldn't find it, but then stumbled across it
today. Covers the topic's pluses and minus's pretty good.
http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm
http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm
John
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25/02/2002 10:03 PM
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Subject:RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
And is this registry entry for 5.5 or 2000, and on Client or Server?
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:
co.in Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using
Veritas 8.6
02/26/2002 02:22
: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:44 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Here's what I did:
Created the contact
Deleted the contact
Empty the trash bin
Recover delete items
Look for test
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Hi There !
Yes that right if you press shift and delete a mail
then it is a hard delete but there is a registry entry
which lets you recover mails that have been hard
deleted without the need to restore it from the backup
.If any body requires
And is this registry entry for 5.5 or 2000, and on Client or Server?
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Post away!
Steve Clark
Clark
Search the KB for 'dumpsteralwayson'
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q246153
William
-Original Message-
From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using
Title: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Count me in, too. Thanks in advance.
-Original Message-
From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Yes please
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 February 2002 23:59
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
-Original Message-
From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 6:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
The only point I would make in addition to the below
Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder?
Neil
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 February 2002 13:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
I just did the recovery of a contact using
Support, LLC.
-Original Message-
From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder?
Neil
-Original
That way works, but not it was deleted by pressing the shift+delete keys or
after it has been moved to a pst file.
Neil
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 February 2002 13:44
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using
Just found out on TechNet that it varies between outlook 98 and 2000, we
still use 98.
Neil
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 February 2002 13:44
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Here's what I did
: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Just found out on TechNet that it varies between outlook 98 and 2000, we
still use 98.
Neil
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 February
permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
-Original Message-
From: Neil Raggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Was that from the deleted items folder or the Contacts folder
Hello,
Does anyone do brick level backups? I know there are many disadvantages of
doing this especially since the fact that you are doing double the work and
your tape could run for several hours more than if you were to just backup
the IS and Dir but can a brick level backup cause problems
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
Hello,
Does anyone do brick level backups? I know there are many disadvantages of
doing this especially since the fact that you are doing double the work and
your tape could run for several hours more than if you were
Could not have said it better myself
-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 18:59
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level backups using Veritas 8.6
http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm
Steve Clark
Clark
Also:
Tao Of Backup Wailing Wall Story
http://www.taobackup.com/wailing_display.cgi?N=22
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:04 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
Dude, http
I have seen posts from people stating that Brick Level Backups of
Exchange are bad. I was just discussing this with a fellow engineer and
wanted to find out the reason why the Brick Level Backups are bad. What
the issues with this type of Backup? If Brick level Backups are bad then
why
, 2002 7:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Brick Level Backups
I have seen posts from people stating that Brick Level Backups of Exchange
are bad. I was just discussing this with a fellow engineer and wanted to
find out the reason why the Brick Level Backups are bad. What the issues
Here is the definitive answer!
http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
They take too long.
They use too much tape.
When you restore from
, January 09, 2002 10:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Brick Level Backups
I have seen posts from people stating that Brick Level Backups of
Exchange are bad. I was just discussing this with a fellow engineer and
wanted to find out the reason why the Brick Level Backups are bad. What
-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
NIET! Open file manager may be fine for SQL databases, MDB files, but
Exchnage is more than just a pair of EDB files
9:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
I second that, we recently moved some servers up to one of those data
warehouse companies and they attempted to use open file manager to backup
our Exchange box. They swore up and down to me that they could do it
without
to backup the IS\DS to a file and include that in the backup of
whichever backup app they are using.
-Original Message-
From: Cross, Tom
Sent: Wed 1/9/2002 12:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Cc:
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
Keep your SQL admins the heck away from your Exchange backups!
How do I keep myself from the Exchange backup? What do you do if/when SQL becomes the
database engine for Exchange?
William
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: Brick Level Backups
Thanks, I have been showing these responses to some one of my clients
and also some of the guys i work with to show that using OFA isn't
secure and can lead to disaster. i always tell them that if you think
that the OFA will properly backup
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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
Space is the biggest issue with BLB's?
Why do people keep emailing me offline warning me about helping 'Paul
Armstrong'? Any ideas?
I'm easily confused, I guess.
William
Oh... is that an XML tag? DonElyWord? It seems to have not been closed.
William
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
Maybe he meant have the SQL
Which DonElyWord is this might I ask?
D
-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
Oh... is that an XML tag? DonElyWord? It seems to have not been
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
This is what I am asking. One never knows with Don Ely.
You are both a SQL and Exchange guru, aren't you? You SMS weirdo you...
William
“Your server is suffering from the Broke A$$ $hit syndrome...” – Don Ely,
November 30, 2001
Ass shit.
--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
He's a Dentist, a Detective, a MindReader, No He is in IT.
-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
Folks,
It's late for me. I am tired. I am going to remove a Exchange server from
the site. All are NT4 XCH 5.5. Basically this means deleting it within the
xch admin program then from server manager? Am I forgeting anything???
David Kopec
Electronic Messaging Specialist
Email: [EMAIL
What NT sp ? What xch SP ?
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From: Kopec, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 16:38
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
Folks,
It's late for me. I am tired. I am going to remove a Exchange server
: Brick Level Backups
Folks,
It's late for me. I am tired. I am going to remove a Exchange server from
the site. All are NT4 XCH 5.5. Basically this means deleting it within the
xch admin program then from server manager? Am I forgeting anything???
David Kopec
Electronic Messaging Specialist
, connected to a different server.
After that, you can shut the server down completely and remove it via server
manager.
John M.
-Original Message-
From: Kopec, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level
:
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-Original Message-
From: Kopec, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Brick Level Backups
Folks,
It's late for me. I am tired. I am going to remove a Exchange server from
the site. All are NT4 XCH 5.5. Basically
, January 09, 2002 10:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Brick Level Backups
I have seen posts from people stating that Brick Level Backups of
Exchange are bad. I was just discussing this with a fellow engineer and
wanted to find out the reason why the Brick Level Backups are bad. What
This is why we don't let junior admins play with email.
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Brick Level Backups
uh oh...
having just done a mailbox
Title: RE: Brick Level Backups
In exchange admin you can replicate the folder instances back to the home server. I think it's in the information store container under public folder instances, but I could be completely wrong, it's been a while;)
-Original Message-
From: missy
Title: RE: Brick Level Backups
ok
that mail was meant for Keefe!!;)
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 13 September 2001
09:32To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Brick
Level Backups
In exchange admin you can replicate the folder
: Brick Level Backups
Please respond
to
MS-Exchange
Hello,
Can someone tell me why Brick Level backups are a bad idea? I have been
doing brick level backups for a while and have not incurred into any
problems. Am I heading for a disaster by continuing to do brick level
backups? My users demand that mailbox be restored without the Exchange
BLB with a 31GB Info Store? That's a lot of tape.
Here's my rant:
The Top Ten Reasons why William Doesn't recommend Brick-level backups:
10. The only product he's tried it with is ArcServeIT (*shudder*)
9. Brick-level backups should be done in conjunction with regular backups
therefor
http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm
-Original Message-
From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Brick Level Backups
Hello,
Can someone tell me why Brick Level backups are a bad idea? I have been
Subject: Brick Level Backups
03:25 PM
Please respond
Title: Brick Level Backups
http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htmhttp://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxf.htm
-Original Message-From: Irfan GM
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001
12:12 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Brick Level
Title: Brick Level Backups
The
AcrServeIT bashing on SQL forums is at least to the level it is on Exchange
forums.
William
-Original Message-From: John Allhiser
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 9:15
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Brick Level
Title: Message
Just
as a followup, I typically do both full backup and brick level[1], time/space
permitted. I have done so many restores of corrupted mailboxes[2] in
enviornments and have never had an issue[3] up to now. I have seen some
weird things in large stores like 20+gig, and being
or
be. Brick level backupstry to make a flat file out of a specific
database.
William
-Original Message-From: Benjamin Zachary
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001
7:28 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Brick
Level Backups
Just
as a followup, I typically do both
in small-medium installs (1-5gig mdb)
-Original Message-From: Drewski
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001
10:35 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Brick
Level Backups
sure. when you restore a mailbox from
brick-level backup, you break SIS
: Monday, September 03, 2001
9:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Brick
Level Backups
Yeah I
saw what William was saying about single instance storage, but wasnt sure about
that. Heres a good example though, 2 weeks ago some user 'lost' 12 days of data,
had all mail up to like 8/2
Title: Brick Level Backups
I'm a
little slow in checking the list. I've had other
"Labors".
I will
saythat William, your reply isworthy of a shortcut
key.
Where
I work,they useBE 7.5. They had "open file" selected for
everything. When I was hired, I immediately change
Title: Brick Level Backups
New to the
list? DUCK
Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584
voice
240-465-0323
Efax
-Original
Message-
From: Irfan GM
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001
12
Title: Brick Level Backups
yep ,
ducking and covering... :-) , answers please ...
-Original Message-From: Clark, Steve
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001
9:47 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Brick
Level Backups
New to
the list
Title: Message
Thanks
Don
-Original Message-From: Don Ely
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001
9:54 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Brick
Level Backups
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm
http://www.swinc.com/resource
: Brick Level
Backups
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxf.htm
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec3.htm section
3.11
This should tell you all you need to know. Now
go read the FAQ and dump ArcServe 2000 please
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