AMTo: MS-Exchange
Admin IssuesSubject: RE: OWA usage
Well, that makes sense. If a user's primary computer at work has
a CAL and he pops into OWA once in a while from home, the CAL at work covers
him (or her).
mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards),Steve RopiakZF Group
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-Original Message-From: Woodrick, Ed
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The
real answer is that it depends on your licensing. Not all
Steve -
NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar Code Admn. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Well, that makes sense. If a user's primary computer at work has
a CAL and he pop
Title: RE: OWA usage
Well,
that makes sense. If a user's primary computer at work has a CAL and he
pops into OWA once in a while from home, the CAL at work covers him (or
her).
mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards),Steve RopiakZF Group
NAOCERT, Exchange and Bar Code
Administrato
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Tehe, it took me a second...hehe...
- Original Message -
From:
Martin Blackstone
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:24
PM
Subject: RE: OWA usage
Hey, I don't
think we are interested in what you are
Title: RE: OWA usage
According to Microsoft. If you authenticate you need a CAL. So you more
than likely you are having your users authenticate. If not then I hope their
mail isn't important to them
-Original Message-From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence
Office Exchange and Bar
Title: RE: OWA usage
I
believe your Dell guy is wrong. I've heard from too many software vendors
who deal with Microsoft products and licensing all the time that OWA users do
need a CAL. If they didn't, you could get away with buying no CAL's by
just having everyone use th
Title: RE: OWA usage
Below is what my Dell Licensing guy told me.
From Dell:
You don't need a CAL for the remote OWA access, though if the user has
a machine that they are pulling data down to their Outlook directly
off of the server then they would need a CAL.
-Original Me
: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usage
Yes, but if each of those users has multiple computers they use to OWA into
your system you licensing is still out of control. What I was thinking I'd
need is some way to monitor (or perhaps lock out) usage by IP address or MAC
address so I&#
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From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usage
The licensing and its manifestations over the years has left much to be
desired.
A couple of things ring true:
1) get licensing and pricing from
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From: Jeffegg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 6:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OWA usage
We have a global OWAUsers group and only
members of that group can access their email
via OWA. Since the number of OWA users is
less th
We have a global OWAUsers group and only
members of that group can access their email
via OWA. Since the number of OWA users is
less than the number of Non-OWA users this is
not too hard to maintain.
--
Jeff Eggleston
==
"Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange
and Bar Code Admn
Title: RE: OWA usage
I did
speak with Vendor, it's one CAL for each computer. If the user is
going home to OWA into work he needs a CAL.
And
the rich get richer . . . .
mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards),Steve RopiakZF Group
NAOCERT, Exchange and Bar Code
Administrator(207
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Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usage
I just want to mention that I think this licensing scheme sounds really
dumb, and also that I am not authorized to quote MS licensing, but this is
some info from their site. The Q
erver Client Access License (CAL).
Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 4:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usage
Everyone see Q1
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Everyone see
Q168633
-Original Message-From: Benjamin Winzenz
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002
1:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: OWA
usage
There has to be some
type of consideration given to OWA users. As
Title: RE: OWA usage
There has to be some type of consideration
given to OWA users. As others have mentioned, I always "thought"
that you did not need a separate CAL for OWA if you already had one for that users work
machine/mailbox. You may want to speak to your vendor again
Title: RE: OWA usage
That
would only fix half of the problem.
A
single OWA-enabled user can access his OWA account from any
Internet-connected PC in the world!
I'd
*hate* to pay MS for that many CALs... :-)
/\/iels
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William
[m
hehe.. set all their mailboxes to anonymouse access..
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 January 2002 08:47
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usage
Unfortunately, based on MS Website, that actually sounds accurate. Take a
look
Title: RE: OWA usage
That
is my understanding. I emailed Corpsoft for clarification. They
handle our licensing issues.
mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards),Steve RopiakZF Group
NAOCERT, Exchange and Bar Code
Administrator(207) 989-9115 voice(207) 989-8722 fax(513) 317-0197
cell
Title: RE: OWA usage
Create
a group called NOOWA and deny local login rights to the OWA server to its
members. Just a thought.
There
are many other means, like restricting HTTP.
-Original Message-From: Leone, Michael
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002
Title: RE: OWA usage
> I think you have things misunderstood or didn't explain them
> correctly.
>
> You need a CAL for every person that is accessing the
> Exchange server. That
> CAL encompasses, regular old connections, POP, IMAP, or OWA.
Not every person; ever
Title: RE: OWA usage
> If they don't have a mailbox, they cant get in.
> Its as simple as that.
I think his question is "How does I stop the folks who *do* have a mailbox, but for whom I don't have an OWA CAL? Other than trusting them not to?".
>
> -
iak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar Code Admn.
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Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usage
We had this discussion with Corpsoft shortly before a threatened audit by
Microsoft and their position on Exchange licens
en Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
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From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar Code Admn.
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Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:41 PM
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We had this discu
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usage
I think you have things misunderstood or didn'
d Bar Code Admn.
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Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usage
Is that the Microsoft solution? Just buy two CAL's for every user, one for
work, one for home?
mit freundlichen Grüßen,(Best Regards),
Steve Ropiak
ZF
No, one CAL per user.
You're thinking of Oracle... ;)
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From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar Code Admn.
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Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:33 AM
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Is that the Micr
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-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA usage
If they don't have a mailbox, they cant get in.
Its as simple as that.
-Original Message-
From: Ropiak Steve - NA
If they don't have a mailbox, they cant get in.
Its as simple as that.
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From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office Exchange and Bar Code Admn.
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Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OWA usage
OK, go
OK, got the bad news from Microsoft. Every home user who accesses OWA from
their home PC needs a CAL for my Exchange 5.5 OWA. Problem is, how can I
stop those folks that we don't have a CAL for from getting in? In theory,
everyone who has a home computer could use it, but probably few do. Any
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