[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samâdhi, according to P-jali (or, Taimni?)?

2007-07-27 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: samprajñâta-vitarka: savitarka nirvitarka asamprajñâta not-samprajñaata saMprajñâta-vicâra: savicâra nirvicâra vicAra m. (ifc. f. %{A}) mode of acting or proceeding , procedure (also = a single or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samâdhi, according to P-jali (or, Taimni?)?

2007-07-27 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saMprajñâta-vitarka: savitarka nirvitarka asaMprajñâta saMprajñâta-vicâra: savicâra nirvicâra asaMprajñâta saMprajñâta-sânanda saananda = sa+aananda Ananda m. happiness , joy , enjoyment , sensual

Re: [FairfieldLife] Peter's post= what is EN.- sidhananda response

2007-07-27 Thread billy jim
Hi Vaj. Yes Vaj. Their mythos just is expansive enough to talk extensively about channels of mind-body coordination (nadi), internal life-energy flows (prana-vayu )and point-essences (bindu). You don't believe this kind of mythos do you Vaj? Let's see - Tsa-Lung-Tigle - isn't that a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Peter's post= what is EN.- sidhananda response

2007-07-27 Thread Peter
Yes, I too confirm Siddhananda's Realization and confirm a new name upon her..Bob. Sanskrit name are so unwieldy. Hence forth all Realized ones will be called Bob. Also, all Kundalini experiences will be forbidden. So 1970's. --- Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namaste GuruJi,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-27 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/26/07 8:31:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, j [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the major reasons Congress doesn't have better ratings is that Democrats were elected to do something about the Bush disaster, and they haven't been able to accomplish much yet because of all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor Arjuna. He was a warrior and was instructed by Lord Krishna to follow his dharma and fight. That means he could not follow Patanjali's practice of non-harming (ahimsa) snip That is correct! The law of Dharma in this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-27 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/26/07 9:50:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All polls until this week consistently reported 10 points less support for Congress than for the President. Fact. Deal with it. Shemp, say, Oops, Judy, you're right, Bush's ratings are now

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread Peter
Krishna's teaching is from and within a different context than Patanjali. --- billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor Arjuna. He was a warrior and was instructed by Lord Krishna to follow his dharma and fight. That means he could not follow Patanjali's practice of non-harming (ahimsa)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: stock market vs Hagelin = cognitive dissonance

2007-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2007, at 1:17 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: See? All that bouncing is making *someone* rich. We've gotta tax the underground economy and use the money for health care. Legalize all drugs, prostitution and tax the S out of it. Use all current program funds for wars against US

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And of course the bhagavad-gita is just a hodgepodge of stolen goods, over half of it's verses come from the parameshvara agama, a Shaivite text which pre-dates the Vaishnavite merchant class revival. And it really doesn't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread Vaj
And of course the bhagavad-gita is just a hodgepodge of stolen goods, over half of it's verses come from the parameshvara agama, a Shaivite text which pre-dates the Vaishnavite merchant class revival. On Jul 27, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Peter wrote: Krishna's teaching is from and within a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Peter's post= what is EN.- sidhananda response

2007-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2007, at 1:31 AM, Ron wrote: *It has nothing to do with kundalini experiences. That's all in the physiology. S Hahahahaha yes the world is all physical, what you see is what you get (wrong)kundalini is a journey through consciousnes and has nothing to do with the physical.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-27 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/26/07 9:50:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As to other facts: In April, a USA Today/Gallup poll had Bush at 38 percent, Congress at 33 percent (5 points, not 10, difference). The same poll on May 15 had Bush at 33 and Congress at 29 (4 points,

[FairfieldLife] Cat senses when patients will die

2007-07-27 Thread do.rflex
A Day in the Life of Oscar the Cat David M. Dosa, M.D., M.P.H. New England Journal of Medicine, July 26, 2007 http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/4/328 Oscar the Cat awakens from his nap, opening a single eye to survey his kingdom. From atop the desk in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cat senses when patients will die

2007-07-27 Thread do.rflex
My apologies. I failed to notice that 'sinhlnx' had already posted about this story.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread billy jim
Poor Arjuna. He was a warrior and was instructed by Lord Krishna to follow his dharma and fight. That means he could not follow Patanjali's practice of non-harming (ahimsa) without regard to time, place or intent. Nor could any of the other warriors for that matter. Although many of them

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY took the essential teachings of the Sanatana Dharma of India (eternal Religion of the Vedas)and made them into a science. In order to do this he had to sever certain parts of Patanjali's teachings

[FairfieldLife] Re: stock market vs Hagelin = cognitive dissonance

2007-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Isn't that what medical marijuana is supposed to be a segue to? Treat it as a medical condition and then when legalization eventually happens, the distribution system, which can be easily observed by authorities, is already in place. I bet Hillary will legalize the devil's weed in her

Re: [FairfieldLife] Peter's post= what is EN.- sidhananda response

2007-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2007, at 8:45 AM, billy jim wrote: Hi Vaj. Yes Vaj. Their mythos just is expansive enough to talk extensively about channels of mind-body coordination (nadi), internal life-energy flows (prana-vayu )and point-essences (bindu). You don't believe this kind of mythos do you Vaj?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: stock market vs Hagelin = cognitive dissonance

2007-07-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 27, 2007, at 12:17 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: We've gotta tax the underground economy and use the money for health care. Legalize all drugs, prostitution and tax the S out of it. Use all current program funds for wars against US citizens for rehab and disease testing and safe working

[FairfieldLife] On the Nature of Evil, Compassion, and Enlightenment

2007-07-27 Thread Vaj
On the Nature of Evil, Compassion, and Enlightenment Posted by John M. Knapp, LMSW at 7/26/2007 02:28:00 PM A rougher version of this post appeared in the comments section. A reader requested that I polish it up and post it on the main blog. The result is below. A note about my posts and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter's post= what is EN.- sidhananda response

2007-07-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vaj. Yes Vaj. Their mythos just is expansive enough to talk extensively about channels of mind-body coordination (nadi), internal life-energy flows (prana-vayu )and point- essences (bindu). You don't believe this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This (above) is a good capsule of what Maharishi's original intentions were, I feel, when he started teaching in the west. Yoga is so empirical in nature and practice and most religions promulgate most, if not

[FairfieldLife] Re: On the Nature of Evil, Compassion, and Enlightenment

2007-07-27 Thread qntmpkt
--1. Outer behavior can't infringe upon MMY's Enlightened status. Can't judge a book by the cover. What's underneath is the true Reality. However, Mr. Knapp has seemingly tapped into a legitimate vast pool of discord. As to the complainers, the supposed victims, it's clear they are: 2.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread matrixmonitor
---Thanks, I agree with the assessment (below). In retrospect, MMY failed at both the science aspect and the religion/spirituality aspect. By siding with the religious/spiritual aspect, fewer people may have initially started TM, but we would be left with a core group of dedicated,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: This (above) is a good capsule of what Maharishi's original intentions were, I feel, when he started teaching in the west. Yoga is so empirical in nature and practice and most religions promulgate most, if not all, of the elements contained in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cat senses when patients will die

2007-07-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
do.rflex wrote: My apologies. I failed to notice that 'sinhlnx' had already posted about this story. You are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you post.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: This (above) is a good capsule of what Maharishi's original intentions were, I feel, when he started teaching in the west.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread billy jim
Yep drP. Ain't it so. And MMY talked about this in the old days - late 60's and early 70's. It is this different context which is the difference between a renunciate's life and a householder's life. It is the difference between walking away from social responsibility to focus on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread John
TM is actually deriving its principles from Patanjali and the B. Gita. IMHO, Patanjali's yoga sutras are detailing the science of yoga. However, the B Gita is revealing the practical aspects or application of yoga. In effect, yoga essentially is NOT for the timid. There comes a time when a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: This (above) is a good capsule of what Maharishi's original intentions were, I feel, when he started teaching in the west. Yoga is so empirical in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Thanks, I agree with the assessment (below). In retrospect, MMY failed at both the science aspect and the religion/spirituality aspect. By siding with the religious/spiritual aspect, fewer people may have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:30 PM, BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't see how anyone could take perverting a tradition which works as practical. The mechanics of why the prerequisites work are well known to real yogis...and they keep

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:23 PM, John wrote: IMHO, Patanjali's yoga sutras are detailing the science of yoga. Unfortunately, that's the exact opposite of what it is: it's actually the sparsest of sketches. In order to actually learn what it's referring to, one needs to use quite a few other

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't see how anyone could take perverting a tradition which works as practical. The mechanics of why the prerequisites work are well known to real yogis...and they keep creating real samadhic absorptions. If we

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's upside is that it was easily disseminated and easy to do, so millions took up the practice--there has to be some positive effect from that (even, possibly, if most quit), and for that we should all be grateful to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:43 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: In your opinion (and others), that was ultimately a bad decision, but I feel that Maharishi's initial impulse was sincere and came from heartfelt enthusiasm that what he was doing was following the inspiration he received from Guru Dev. I used

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread Marek Reavis
Dialogue below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:43 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: In your opinion (and others), that was ultimately a bad decision, but I feel that Maharishi's initial impulse was sincere and came from heartfelt

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2007, at 3:33 PM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:23 PM, John wrote: IMHO, Patanjali's yoga sutras are detailing the science of yoga. Unfortunately, that's the exact opposite of what it is: it's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:23 PM, John wrote: IMHO, Patanjali's yoga sutras are detailing the science of yoga. Unfortunately, that's the exact opposite of what it is: it's actually the sparsest of sketches. In order

[FairfieldLife] 'Extorting Your Doctor or Insurance Co. for Health Reasons'

2007-07-27 Thread Robert Gimbel
Jay Leno Goes Completely 'SiCKO' with Michael Moore CLiCK Here to Get Your 'SiCKO' Health Care Card - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is why mastery of the Yama and Niyama limbs are not really requirements for mastery of the inner limbs, or sanyama, but are rather valuable adjuncts. This is correct: It is wrong to assume that unless the senses

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-27 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj, first of all, though Maharishi was snubbing tradition in his willingness to leave the yamas and niyamas of Patanjali out of his teachings and techniques, it was that revolutionary aspect of his teaching that

[FairfieldLife] 'An Islamic Solution?'

2007-07-27 Thread Robert Gimbel
Acts of Faith: The Story of an American Muslim, the Struggle for the Soul of a Generation by Eboo Patel About This Book Synopses Reviews Comment on this title and you could win free

[FairfieldLife] SaDaGga (H-K -transliteration convention): six angas

2007-07-27 Thread cardemaister
Well, yogacuuDaamaNyupaniSat seems to mention only six (SaT, shhaT) an.gas (SaDan.ga), starting from /aasana/: aasanaM praaNasa.nrodhaH pratyaahaarashcha dhaaraNaa . dhyaana.n samaadhiretaani yogaa~Ngaani bhavanti shhaT*.h .. 2.. *shhaT: ITX for (H-K) SaT (when followed by a vowel: SaD)

RE: [FairfieldLife] 'Round is better than square...'

2007-07-27 Thread Rick Archer
Hey Robert, Have you forgotten that you’re over limit for the week? New count starts tonight at midnight. Rick No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.20/919 - Release Date: 7/26/2007 9:56 AM

[FairfieldLife] URGENT note: LOCATION CHANGE for Guru Purnima celebration Sunday in NYC

2007-07-27 Thread george_deforest
-- Forwarded message -- From: TM program - NYC newyorktmprogram @ globalcountry.net http://globalcountry.net/ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:35:03 -0400 Subject: URGENT note: LOCATION CHANGE for Guru Purnima celebration Sunday Dear Governors, Sidhas, and Meditators, It is a

[FairfieldLife] MMY Tower

2007-07-27 Thread suziezuzie
The MMY Tower now going up is made of steel. Is this vastu correct? Steel presents an electro magnectic problem which I know MMY is concerned about.

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Extorting Your Doctor or Insurance Co. for Health Reasons'

2007-07-27 Thread Bhairitu
Robert Gimbel wrote: Jay Leno Goes Completely 'SiCKO' with Michael Moore CLiCK Here to Get Your 'SiCKO' Health Care Card - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY Tower

2007-07-27 Thread Bhairitu
suziezuzie wrote: The MMY Tower now going up is made of steel. Is this vastu correct? Steel presents an electro magnectic problem which I know MMY is concerned about. Why a tower? To me that is just a sign of extreme egoism.

[FairfieldLife] finally, a tombstone for Bevan?

2007-07-27 Thread George DeForest
Maharishi's Extraordinary Gifts Culminating in a Tower of Invincibility Construction on the Maharishi Tower of Invincibility began on June 17 and will be completed in time for the Guru Purnima Celebration July 29. The Tower will be 45 feet high and covered with inscriptions to commemorate the

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY Tower

2007-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2007, at 5:04 PM, suziezuzie wrote: The MMY Tower now going up is made of steel. Is this vastu correct? Steel presents an electro magnectic problem which I know MMY is concerned about. :-O=})}

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Tower

2007-07-27 Thread george_deforest
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: suziezuzie wrote: The MMY Tower now going up is made of steel. Is this vastu correct? Steel presents an electro magnectic problem which I know MMY is concerned about. Why a tower? To me that is just a sign of

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Tower

2007-07-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MMY Tower now going up is made of steel. Is this vastu correct? Steel presents an electro magnectic problem which I know MMY is concerned about. I think that'll only be a problem for folks living inside the tower.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Tower

2007-07-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 27, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: I have noticed, though, that some of the new SV buildings in FF are steel framed, and I think they've decided that $$$ is more important than quality of materials. Which of course, defeats the whole purpose of building an SV home in the first

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Tower

2007-07-27 Thread Peter
--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MMY Tower now going up is made of steel. Is this vastu correct? Steel presents an electro magnectic problem which I know MMY is concerned about. I think

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter's post= what is EN.- sidhananda response

2007-07-27 Thread Peter
--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vaj. Yes Vaj. Their mythos just is expansive enough to talk extensively about channels of mind-body coordination (nadi), internal life-energy flows (prana-vayu

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Tower

2007-07-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MMY Tower now going up is made of steel. Is this vastu correct? Steel presents an electro magnectic problem which I know MMY is concerned about. They should make it out of papier mache.

[FairfieldLife] International Center for Invincible Defense

2007-07-27 Thread tertonzeno
http://www.invincibledefense.org/events.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY Tower

2007-07-27 Thread Lsoma
In a message dated 7/27/2007 5:58:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I drive by the tower everyday when I do my evening program. I'm amazed that they have got so much of it built since it was almost nothing last week. It is my understanding that the Pundits will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter's post= what is EN.- sidhananda response

2007-07-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim emptybill@ wrote: Hi Vaj. Yes Vaj. Their mythos just is expansive enough to talk extensively about channels of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter's post= what is EN.- sidhananda response - Shankara's death.

2007-07-27 Thread matrixmonitor
--Thanks. The bio of Shankara says that a Tantrik Buddhist cast a spell on Shankara and shortly thereafter Shankara developed an anal fistula and died. Is this type of event indicative of what's going on in Fairfield? I live in California. Within a few days, the Tantrikas of Kamarupa