Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Premanand wrote: > The Indian word puraaNa is an adjective meaning old, ancient; and a noun > meaning; tale of by-gone ages, Hindu mythology. > > Superpowers abound in the old tales of many nations. So why take the  Indian > Puranas any more seriously than say Ice

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget geeks on FFL

Alex Stanley wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > >> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] >> On Behalf Of Alex Stanley >> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:54 PM >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [FairfieldL

[FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget geeks on FFL

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Alex Stanley > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:54 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget geek

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > The mastery of 'siddhis' is attained through the practice > > > of 'yoga', as described in the 'Yoga Sutras' of Patanjali > > > (circa 200 BC). According to Mircea Eliade, the practice > > > of yogic enstasis is unique to S

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

On Jan 7, 2010, at 2:35 PM, WillyTex wrote: > > Premanand wrote: > > As Turquoise asks, then why not our own Fairy Tales > > too? They have a lot in common with the Purananas. > > Oh, but then they are not Indian or Vedic, huh! > > > The 'Fairey Tales' of Western cultures have nothing to > do

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 02 00:00:00 2010 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 09 00:00:00 2010 367 messages as of (UTC) Thu Jan 07 23:55:51 2010 50 authfriend 46 TurquoiseB 43 WillyTex 27 Bhairitu 18 PaliGap 14 dhamiltony2k5 12 seekliberation 12

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand" wrote: > > > > As I understand it from a muslim friend, Hindus take their > > mythical writings literally. I guess the question is how > > much we need to buy into the idea that there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand" wrote: > > I once visited an area in the Himalayas closeby Jyotirmath, Tapoban, where > siddhas are supposed to live. Other than the shrine of a recently deceased > one, Gudri Baba (who was mentioned in Swami Rama's Himalayan Masters book, as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Avatar debate on Thom Hartmann's Show

Bhairitu wrote: > Ron Paul is being interviewed right now (hour 1) but in hour 3 Thom will > be debating the movie Avatar with Dr. Ted Baehr, chairman of the > Christian Film & Television Commission. Should be interesting. > Hartmann is delayed in some areas. I listen to him live with his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand" wrote: > > I once visited an area in the Himalayas closeby Jyotirmath, Tapoban, where > siddhas are supposed to live. Other than the shrine of a recently deceased > one, Gudri Baba (who was mentioned in Swami Rama's Himalayan Masters book, as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cold weather and new YFfers?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > cardemaister wrote: > > Are they lots of new Yogic Fliers in Latin America? > > Oh blimey, are they "causing" this bloody cold weather > > in some parts of the northern hemisphere?? :0 > > Is it a wee bit cold where you are? I thought t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

> > The mastery of 'siddhis' is attained through the practice > > of 'yoga', as described in the 'Yoga Sutras' of Patanjali > > (circa 200 BC). According to Mircea Eliade, the practice > > of yogic enstasis is unique to South Asia. > > > WillyTex, John Jr wrote: > You're missing my point. Wha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > John Jr wrote: > > Siddhis are not restricted to the vedic literature. > > > The mastery of 'siddhis' is attained through the practice > of 'yoga', as described in the 'Yoga Sutras' of Patanjali > (circa 200 BC). According to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

I once visited an area in the Himalayas closeby Jyotirmath, Tapoban, where siddhas are supposed to live. Other than the shrine of a recently deceased one, Gudri Baba (who was mentioned in Swami Rama's Himalayan Masters book, as I recall) I found no 'siddhas' there. When I pointed this out to an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > That would be something. > > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > It gets even weirder when people claim that things > > they have NEVER experienced subjectively but have > > only heard of are "Truth." These things aren't even > > subjecti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

Premanand wrote: > Superpowers abound in the old tales of many nations. > Apparently there are no instances, in myth, or in the history of any nation other than South Asia of states of *yogic enstasis* as described by Patanjali in the Yoga Sutras. Siddha Yoga has nothing to do with 'superpow

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Stewart & his team discuss Tiger Woods' religion

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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget geeks on FFL

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget geeks on FFL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Those who see the movie vs. those who only read the reviews

Turq wrote: > Now think spiritual practice. Every week we see > instances of people declaring what they believe > to be the "Truth" about enlightenment, *without > ever having experienced it themselves*... > You've just committed a logical falacy: you've assumed, based on verbal knowledge, tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand" wrote: > > As I understand it from a muslim friend, Hindus take their mythical writings > literally. I guess the question is how much we need to buy into the idea that > there was once human beings who could do things that seem to defy reason.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > To All: > > > > Siddhis are not restricted to the vedic literature. We find > > similar feats in the gospels and stories of Christian saints. > > The conclusion is inescap

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

The Indian word puraaNa is an adjective meaning old, ancient; and a noun meaning; tale of by-gone ages, Hindu mythology. Superpowers abound in the old tales of many nations. So why take the Indian Puranas any more seriously than say Icelandic or German tales? The existence of Patanjali's Yoga

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > > ...we read that St. Peter was able to > > walk on water as he approached Jesus, but started to > > sink when he doubted his faith. > > No, no ,no. We know from modern research on the brain > why folks who are perfectly comforta

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the gadget geeks on FFL

Alex Stanley wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >> This week is the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. Though >> I've been before I didn't go this year. The show is too hard on >> the feet as it is in a huge convention center with concrete >> floors. Even

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

Premanand wrote: > As Turquoise asks, then why not our own Fairy Tales > too? They have a lot in common with the Purananas. > Oh, but then they are not Indian or Vedic, huh! > The 'Fairey Tales' of Western cultures have nothing to do with Yoga or Transcendental Knowledge, found in the Upanishad

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RE: [FairfieldLife] AVATAR in retrospective -- Journey To Ixtlan

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:06 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] AVATAR in retrospective -- Journey To Ixtlan I thought I'd take advantage of the fact that I have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

> That would be something. > TurquoiseB wrote: > It gets even weirder when people claim that things > they have NEVER experienced subjectively but have > only heard of are "Truth." These things aren't even > subjective experience; they are pure BELIEF... > So, it has been established that you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

Prior to initiation into TM I had next to no exposure to Maharishi's thinking, but after being taught TM concluded that Maharishi's primary message was that by periodically transcending thought one would gain greater awareness, blissfulness and satisfaction. The idea of meditating, letting go of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

TurquoiseB wrote: > A reason other than "Because I believe > they are," that is... > It has already been established that you believe in the individual 'soul-monad', so you've been shown to get a lot of your information from verbal testimony. There's nothing you can point to in the physical wo

[FairfieldLife] Those who see the movie vs. those who only read the reviews

A spiritual teacher I studied with for a number of years (not Maharishi) had a dualistic view of things he liked to rap about from time to time, even though his predominant view was more Unity-based. He gave a number of talks about "the two types of seekers." He *more* than knew that there are mo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cold weather and new YFfers?

cardemaister wrote: > Are they lots of new Yogic Fliers in Latin America? > Oh blimey, are they "causing" this bloody cold weather > in some parts of the northern hemisphere?? :0 Is it a wee bit cold where you are? I thought that was par for the course? ;-) It's been cold since about the begin

[FairfieldLife] Avatar debate on Thom Hartmann's Show

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

John Jr wrote: > Siddhis are not restricted to the vedic literature. > The mastery of 'siddhis' is attained through the practice of 'yoga', as described in the 'Yoga Sutras' of Patanjali (circa 200 BC). According to Mircea Eliade, the practice of yogic enstasis is unique to South Asia. The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

On Jan 7, 2010, at 7:35 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > The conclusion is inescapable. Because stories of > siddhis exist in these books, siddhis must exist. > > Similarly, stories of not only siddhis but fantastic > creatures like dragons, trolls, etc. exist in other > books. Of course they exist, and

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jeff.evans60" wrote: > > > > Assuming it was a conscious decision how she was portrayed, > > I think the message the filmmaker was trying to give was > > that the Indians were happy to allow her t

[FairfieldLife] Slovaks plant explosives on air traveller

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "jeff.evans60" wrote: > > > > Assuming it was a conscious decision how she was portrayed, > > I think the message the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand" wrote: > > As I understand it from a muslim friend, Hindus take their > mythical writings literally. I'm not sure I'd consult a Muslim for an objective view of Hinduism (any more than I'd consult a Hindu for an objective view of Islam, or a Christ

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand" wrote: > > As I understand it from a muslim friend, Hindus take their > mythical writings literally. I guess the question is how > much we need to buy into the idea that there was once human > beings who could do things that seem to defy reason.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

As I understand it from a muslim friend, Hindus take their mythical writings literally. I guess the question is how much we need to buy into the idea that there was once human beings who could do things that seem to defy reason. In today's world the real miracle would be for people to stop tryin

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Stewart & his team discuss Tiger Woods' religion

Redeeming Tiger: II.1 Mortification, study and surrendering the fruits of work to God are called Yoga. Well, writing as a conservative meditator, I would remind poor Tiger of the old axiom, "Tiger, what you put your attention on certainly grows stronger in life." Not just showing up in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > To All: > > Siddhis are not restricted to the vedic literature. We find > similar feats in the gospels and stories of Christian saints. The conclusion is inescapable. Because stories of siddhis exist in these books, siddhis must exist. S

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[FairfieldLife] John Stewart & his team discuss Tiger Woods' religion

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[FairfieldLife] AVATAR in retrospective -- Journey To Ixtlan

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi

> ...we read that St. Peter was able to > walk on water as he approached Jesus, but started to > sink when he doubted his faith. No, no ,no. We know from modern research on the brain why folks who are perfectly comfortable walking on water one day suddenly start to sink the next. And it's not

[FairfieldLife] Cold weather and new YFfers?

Are they lots of new Yogic Fliers in Latin America? Oh blimey, are they "causing" this bloody cold weather in some parts of the northern hemisphere?? :0

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Avatar' arouses conservatives' ire

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jeff.evans60" wrote: > > Assuming it was a conscious decision how she was portrayed, > I think the message the filmmaker was trying to give was > that the Indians were happy to allow her to live with them > without trying to force their cultural identity o