[FairfieldLife] Re: Download Entire CD of Shreemad Bhagwad Geeta in English and Hindi - Yatharth Geeta in English, Hindi, Urdu, Russian, French, Deutsch, Spanish and Chinese

2011-08-09 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > http://yatharthgeeta.com/download_eng.htm > Superb!!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Long posts count as two?

2011-08-09 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:27 AM, merudanda wrote: > > > > > > > Ah aircondition and tel line are off BUT INTERNET WORKS!lets make use of it > > in the middle of the night... > > BTW wouldn't you agree,most of the Priest-Minister-Rabbi

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread Ravi Yogi
Well Ramana looks so 1900's kind of Guru - boring, life abnegating but if he inspires you all power to you. My predominant vasana was sex so Osho with his message of sex to superconsciousness was very attractive to me. In fact I joked with my ex long time back that the 3 S's of spirituality for

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread Ravi Yogi
Thanks Jim :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > HA HA! A perfect trajectory Ravi. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > > > Here's a concise definition of Enlightenment from Dr. Ravi Yogi's classic - > > Diagnostic and Statistic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Suspicious Bill

2011-08-09 Thread Ravi Yogi
No desis here 'bro - you are the only suspicious desi here.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread Ravi Yogi
Judy, Yes you are absolutely spot on. I have no use for the personality of a Guru - I absolutely detested it all these years around Amma. So I'm not going to waste my time defending the personality of the Guru, his/her vasanas, his/her samskaras, his wealth, possession and followers. A true seeker

[FairfieldLife] Suspicious Bill

2011-08-09 Thread ghanesh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread Ravi Yogi
You are not too far off the base. I have personally seen how innocent, gullible in India people treated politicians such as Indira Gandhi as god. This when I was a still a kid and it amazed me even at a such young age. But you have to compare my sophisticated intellectual Brahmin samskaras with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan's letter (reprise).

2011-08-09 Thread emptybill
What Vag isn't telling is that all this was made up by Joan Harrigan, Ph.D, (Brahmacharini Shavarpita) She is calling her program the Patanjali Kundalini Yoga Care. I'm sure she must say at some point where, in the Yogasutras-s, that Patanjali quotes any type of Kundalini "anything". Rest assure

[FairfieldLife] Re: GOP Has Highest Disapproval Rating 20 Years

2011-08-09 Thread whynotnow7
I'd like to see as big a field this time around as possible. However unless Obama does something to even halfway meet his rhetoric, its probably Mitt in the next election, with anyone's guess what Congress ends up looking like. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Tue, A

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread whynotnow7
HA HA! A perfect trajectory Ravi. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > Here's a concise definition of Enlightenment from Dr. Ravi Yogi's classic - > Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Enlightenment, Rebel House Publishing, > Chapter 9, Page 108 - > > "Enlightenm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread whynotnow7
Mao was the superstar of the Chinese in the late sixties. We used to buy Mao buttons and Mao's Little Red Book when I was in HK at that time. Every time I'd read a passage from the book, it sounded good in print. But if you took a trip to the border, there were these little yellow cylindrical ce

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread Yifu
Interesting definition of E. below incorporating orgies; but somehow doesn't match the definitions (and more important - the Presence) emanating from Ramana Maharshi. Must be talking about different things.. There's room for both, of course. http://www.sriramanamaharshi.org/ --- In FairfieldLif

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread Ravi Yogi
I haven't been authorized to sell it, just the marketing and publicity - the process to get the license seems to be a bit complicated. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Is this the same divine vodka you've been selling at the Fremont farmers > market along with your spe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread Bhairitu
Is this the same divine vodka you've been selling at the Fremont farmers market along with your special ravioli? On 08/09/2011 03:13 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote: > > Here's a concise definition of Enlightenment from Dr. Ravi Yogi's classic - > Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Enlightenment, Rebel Ho

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Long posts count as two?

2011-08-09 Thread Tom Pall
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:27 AM, merudanda wrote: > > > Ah aircondition and tel line are off BUT INTERNET WORKS!lets make use of it > in the middle of the night... > BTW wouldn't you agree,most of the Priest-Minister-Rabbi jokes in which > the Rabbi provides the punchline are downright flatterin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan's letter (reprise).

2011-08-09 Thread Vaj
You really have to read Kunadilini Vidya - really ALL sidhas past and present should. Then you'll "get" the wisdom behind his view. Otherwise, it is missed and sounds disjointed, whacky or even unbalanced. Sent from my iPad On Aug 9, 2011, at 9:13 PM, "wgm4u" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@

Re: [FairfieldLife] Kaplan's letter (reprise).

2011-08-09 Thread Vaj
Esp. after you read Kunadlini Vidya...you get right where he's coming from... Sent from my iPad On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Tom Pall wrote: > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:45 PM, wgm4u wrote: > > The Truth > > > Kaplan's letter seemed paranoid at the very least. But look around the > Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: GOP Has Highest Disapproval Rating 20 Years

2011-08-09 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:24 PM, do.rflex wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:18 PM, do.rflex wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "GOP's Disap

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt Romney for President

2011-08-09 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 5:30 PM, wgm4u wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "martyboi" wrote: > > > > I think the election of Kennedy (Catholic) and Obama (mixed ethnicity) > has shown that the electorate can deflate the common "wisdom" about the kind > of person that is electable:

[FairfieldLife] Mao and MMY - a reframed post to facilitate appreciating his glorious deeds

2011-08-09 Thread emptybill
You're so correct. Like Mao, Maharishi killed 49-78 million people. I remember it so well Like you I still pour over the speeches of Mao to see what the TMO can still do to enlighten the world of the blind. I am particularly fond of "On the Correct Handling of Contradictions among the People" F

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan's letter (reprise).

2011-08-09 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:45 PM, wgm4u wrote: > > > The Truth > > > > > Kaplan's letter seemed paranoid at the very least. But look around the > Maharishi Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge and Temple and look at all of the > enervated "sidh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Kaplan's letter (reprise).

2011-08-09 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:45 PM, wgm4u wrote: > The Truth > > Kaplan's letter seemed paranoid at the very least. But look around the Maharishi Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge and Temple and look at all of the enervated "sidhas". Kapan's letter rings truer and truer.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GOP Has Highest Disapproval Rating 20 Years

2011-08-09 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:24 PM, do.rflex wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:18 PM, do.rflex wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "GOP's Disapproval,Rating Hits 59 Percent > > > which is the highest disapproval rating > > > in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread seventhray1
To clarify my point. I had the perception, perhaps like Ravi, that Mao's time was in the somewhat distant past, among an older generation. It is hard to realize that his time was as recent as the 60's going into the 70's, and involved a more modern generation. A lot has happened in a short perio

[FairfieldLife] Re: GOP Has Highest Disapproval Rating 20 Years

2011-08-09 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:18 PM, do.rflex wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "GOP's Disapproval,Rating Hits 59 Percent > > which is the highest disapproval rating > > in the CNN poll in the last twenty years" > > > > > > > But our wannabe pres

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-08-09 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 06 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 13 00:00:00 2011 566 messages as of (UTC) Wed Aug 10 00:10:48 2011 50 authfriend 40 Yifu 33 whynotnow7 32 seventhray1 29 turquoiseb 28 Bob Price 27 Bhairitu 22 wgm4u 2

[FairfieldLife] DADT briefing at Camp Pendleton -- it's against my religion (homorsexuality) but obviously killing is not

2011-08-09 Thread Tom Pall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oke4trvGMtQ&feature=related A very humorous video, IMO. Soldiers, trained to kill (but St. Augustine says that's cool), are complaining that having gays in their midst is against their religion.

Re: [FairfieldLife] GOP Has Highest Disapproval Rating 20 Years

2011-08-09 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:18 PM, do.rflex wrote: > > > > > "GOP's Disapproval,Rating Hits 59 Percent > which is the highest disapproval rating > in the CNN poll in the last twenty years" > > > But our wannabe president's ratings have fallen to levels he's never seen. And it ain't over till the fat

Re: [FairfieldLife] What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread Vaj
On Aug 9, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > The term simply means experiencing an "inner light" ideally 24/7. It > does not mean an intellectual state though many confuse it with one. > But it should improve clarity of thinking. The process is raising the > vibrational rate of the individual

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt Romney for President

2011-08-09 Thread Vaj
On Aug 9, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > On 08/09/2011 01:47 PM, martyboi wrote: > > I think the election of Kennedy (Catholic) and Obama (mixed ethnicity) has > > shown that the electorate can deflate the common "wisdom" about the kind of > > person that is electable: making the future qu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mitt Romney for President

2011-08-09 Thread Vaj
But apparently "Morons" are still OK. Remember our last President? :-) Actually a Mormon might be considered better than a faked birth certificate, Socialist/Communist, secret Mohammedan who hangs out with terrorists and passes evil Universal Health Care plans in the middle of the night! I mean

Re: [FairfieldLife] What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/09/2011 05:53 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > What is your personal definition of "enlightenment?" Where did it come > from? I would suggest that these two questions are inexorably linked, > and some thought can be productively given to that link. > > In another spiritual tradition, albeit a short-li

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US National Debt Is Out of Control

2011-08-09 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/09/2011 03:18 PM, wgm4u wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 08/09/2011 02:34 PM, wgm4u wrote: >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > My question is why would you support the super rich if you aren't one? >>> Because we aren't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > The Turqo critizised Judy for not knowing what she was > > > talking about because she

[FairfieldLife] GOP Has Highest Disapproval Rating 20 Years

2011-08-09 Thread do.rflex
"GOP's Disapproval,Rating Hits 59 Percent which is the highest disapproval rating in the CNN poll in the last twenty years" -- New data from a CNN poll shows that there's been a difference in the minds of many Americans: the Democratic Party is getting a split on approval/disapproval at 47 - 4

[FairfieldLife] Re: US National Debt Is Out of Control

2011-08-09 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 08/09/2011 02:34 PM, wgm4u wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >>> My question is why would you support the super rich if you > >> aren't one? > > Because we aren't selfish and believe in the America

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > The Turqo critizised Judy for not knowing what she was talking about > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt Romney for President

2011-08-09 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/09/2011 01:47 PM, martyboi wrote: > I think the election of Kennedy (Catholic) and Obama (mixed ethnicity) has > shown that the electorate can deflate the common "wisdom" about the kind of > person that is electable: making the future quite unpredictable. Romney's > religious orientation v

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread Ravi Yogi
Here's a concise definition of Enlightenment from Dr. Ravi Yogi's classic - Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Enlightenment, Rebel House Publishing, Chapter 9, Page 108 - "Enlightenment is the divine hard-on caused by the partaking of the stolen divine vodka from the hidden wine cellar of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US National Debt Is Out of Control

2011-08-09 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/09/2011 02:34 PM, wgm4u wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> My question is why would you support the super rich if you >> aren't one? > Because we aren't selfish and believe in the American Dream, even if WE > personally can't achieve it we preserve the poss

[FairfieldLife] Download Entire CD of Shreemad Bhagwad Geeta in English and Hindi - Yatharth Geeta in English, Hindi, Urdu, Russian, French, Deutsch, Spanish and Chinese

2011-08-09 Thread Rick Archer
http://yatharthgeeta.com/download_eng.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread Yifu
yea,...but then one might have to clarify, wrt "MMY's teachings", perhaps with a flow chart: a. There is value (for somebody) in learning about MMY's teachings. b. Learning about MMY's teachings will make people happy c. They will become happy because 1. their minds are filled with wisdom 2. the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former spiritual retreat put on auction block...

2011-08-09 Thread Vaj
On Aug 9, 2011, at 4:07 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > "Forest Summit, a 381-acre development outside Boone that was > > once a campus for practitioners of Transcendental Meditation, > > is to be auctioned off Sept. 14. > > > > The se

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former spiritual retreat put on auction block...

2011-08-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > "Forest Summit, a 381-acre development outside Boone that was once a campus > > for practitioners of Transcendental Meditation, is to be auctioned off > > Sept. 14.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > The Turqo critizised Judy for not knowing what she was talking about > > because she never met Maharishi. Now Curtis tries the same trick. Same old > > tri

[FairfieldLife] Re: US National Debt Is Out of Control

2011-08-09 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>My question is why would you support the super rich if you > aren't one? Because we aren't selfish and believe in the American Dream, even if WE personally can't achieve it we preserve the possibility for others to achieve it, maybe ou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt Romney for President

2011-08-09 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "martyboi" wrote: > > I think the election of Kennedy (Catholic) and Obama (mixed ethnicity) has > shown that the electorate can deflate the common "wisdom" about the kind of > person that is electable: making the future quite unpredictable. Romney's > re

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread Yifu
thx, excellent post; one of the more logical set of statements on this topic that I've seen thus far. Some considerations: a. the Aufklarung approach avoids certain conflicts Advaitins and especially Neo-Advaitins get into; one of which is explaining what entity is saying "I'm Enlightened". b

[FairfieldLife] Re: US National Debt Is Out of Control

2011-08-09 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > Look at my ffl profile picture. Do I look like a Count? If so then maybe > I hold open the door to hell. > > > > Das Übermann/Das Übermensch is only an aspiration for the weak > Üntermenschen. > > > > I'm already awakened. So

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US National Debt Is Out of Control

2011-08-09 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/09/2011 12:56 PM, emptybill wrote: > Look at my ffl profile picture. Do I look like a Count? If so then maybe > I hold open the door to hell. It doesn't show up but there is a picture in the members picture section. My question is why would you support the super rich if you aren't one? Do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt Romney for President

2011-08-09 Thread martyboi
I think the election of Kennedy (Catholic) and Obama (mixed ethnicity) has shown that the electorate can deflate the common "wisdom" about the kind of person that is electable: making the future quite unpredictable. Romney's religious orientation vis-a-vis Obama's "socialism" may be perceived a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oldies but goldies?

2011-08-09 Thread David
Thanks that was very amusing! -

[FairfieldLife] Game Theory and the Humanities

2011-08-09 Thread Yifu
new book from MIT Press: "Game Theory and the Humanities Bridging Two Worlds Steven J. Brams Table of Contents Game theory models are ubiquitous in economics, common in political science, and increasingly used in psychology and sociology; in evolutionary biology, they offer compelling explana

[FairfieldLife] 'Sun Continues toward Solar Maximus'...

2011-08-09 Thread Robert
http://www.space.com/12580-sun-unleashes-major-solar-flare.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former spiritual retreat put on auction block...

2011-08-09 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > "Forest Summit, a 381-acre development outside Boone that was once a campus > for practitioners of Transcendental Meditation, is to be auctioned off Sept. > 14. > > The sellers, brothers David and Earl Kaplan, have set the reserve

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread emptybill
There is no Enlightenment It never existed and it never will. But there is Aufklärung – Clearing Up There is no enlightenment to be discovered, realized or attained by anyone at any time in any way. There is only Aufklärung – Clearing Up. Enlightenment? There never was and never will be such a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former spiritual retreat put on auction block...

2011-08-09 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > "Forest Summit, a 381-acre development outside Boone that was > once a campus for practitioners of Transcendental Meditation, > is to be auctioned off Sept. 14. > > The sellers, brothers David and Earl Kaplan, have set the > reserve

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mitt Romney for President

2011-08-09 Thread Bhairitu
This country will never elect a Mormon for President. On 08/09/2011 12:51 PM, wgm4u wrote: > > [Home] > Mitt Romney for President > * > > > > 11 > > > > > A

[FairfieldLife] Former spiritual retreat put on auction block...

2011-08-09 Thread Sal Sunshine
"Forest Summit, a 381-acre development outside Boone that was once a campus for practitioners of Transcendental Meditation, is to be auctioned off Sept. 14. The sellers, brothers David and Earl Kaplan, have set the reserve price - the minimum price they will accept - at $2,485,000. The center,

[FairfieldLife] Re: US National Debt Is Out of Control

2011-08-09 Thread emptybill
Look at my ffl profile picture. Do I look like a Count? If so then maybe I hold open the door to hell. Das Übermann/Das Übermensch is only an aspiration for the weak Üntermenschen. I'm already awakened. So are you. No need to become what we already are by essence/ousia/satta. Tantra is ab

[FairfieldLife] Mitt Romney for President

2011-08-09 Thread wgm4u
[Home] Mitt Romney for President * 11 About Mitt [inserted-image] America faces exceptional challenges. Mitt Romney is an exceptional man with

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams" wrote: > > > > turquoiseb: > > What is your personal definition of "enlightenment?" > > > The word 'enlightenment', which you incessantly use, > is a religious term that denotes a belief in a state > of being which is beyond t

[FairfieldLife] 'While(His)Guitar, gently weeps...'

2011-08-09 Thread Robert
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/285894

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
turquoiseb: > What is your personal definition of "enlightenment?" > The word 'enlightenment', which you incessantly use, is a religious term that denotes a belief in a state of being which is beyond the physical world of the senses. Enlightenment is a revelation or a deep insight into the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > "So if you can associate my name with an negative emotion it might make > > it look as if my POV is less valuable... nice work" > > You may have intellectually n

[FairfieldLife] 'Hare Krishna!'

2011-08-09 Thread Robert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wynYMJwEPH8&NR=1

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > What is your personal definition of "enlightenment?" Where did it come > from? I would suggest that these two questions are inexorably linked, > and some thought can be productively given to that link. > *A* definition of enlightenmen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yes, Virginia, there IS a more self-indulgent director than David Lynch

2011-08-09 Thread whynotnow7
Oh well - I saw another surprisingly good movie,'Step Into Liquid', by the son of the guy who did Endless Summer and ES 2, about all things surfing, from surfing sand dunes to sea mounts 100 miles from shore. Good stuff if you like that sort of thing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tur

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > > > "Oh...well then...WTF are you defending him for?" > > > I'm not defending M, I'm att

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Subjectivity Ever Be Considered Objective?

2011-08-09 Thread maskedzebra
Turquoiseb: I have been 100% ironic from beginning to end. And you have missed this. That's a serious misperception of reality. That's a kind of [non-objective] subjectivity that could hurt you, as in: the failure to know what reality is really up to at any given moment. All that I have done i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yes, Virginia, there IS a more self-indulgent director than David Lynch

2011-08-09 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > > "This is why we have critics. Someone has to have the courage > > > > to tell viewers that they'r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread emptybill
Not only this, having been very interested in Mao as a charismatic leader (with a mystical stature similar to Maharishi's), I find when I read Curtis making this comparison nothing disturbed in the universe, nothing disturbed in my mind—and you see, if what Curtis was saying here was, objective

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yes, Virginia, there IS a more self-indulgent director than David Lynch

2011-08-09 Thread whynotnow7
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > "This is why we have critics. Someone has to have the courage > > > to tell viewers that they're watching crap, because they are > > > clearly unable to discern this

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Enlightenment doesn't have a personal definition. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > What is your personal definition of "enlightenment?" Where did it come > from? I would suggest that these two questions are inexorably linked, > and some thought can be productively given

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Subjectivity Ever Be Considered Objective?

2011-08-09 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > > > Bzzt. Any argument that depends on "buy in" to either > > > the concept of God or belief that you

[FairfieldLife] Re: getting off the merry-go-round

2011-08-09 Thread obbajeeba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piW9MHpfCu4 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jan Campbell wrote: > > Hey, Folks, > > No offense, but I've requested 4 times to be unsubscribed to the group.  It > seems pretty useless to keep sending in these requests.  Is anybody here a > moderator?  Help.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Subjectivity Ever Be Considered Objective?

2011-08-09 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > > > Bzzt. Any argument that depends on "buy in" to either > > the concept of God or belief that you or anyone else knows > > what his/her/its perspective is is of no inte

[FairfieldLife] getting off the merry-go-round

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Campbell
Hey, Folks, No offense, but I've requested 4 times to be unsubscribed to the group.  It seems pretty useless to keep sending in these requests.  Is anybody here a moderator?  Help. JSC "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.  Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."  Groucho Marx

[FairfieldLife] 'WE'd Love to see the PLanS!'..

2011-08-09 Thread Robert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imb4tYOk8GE

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US National Debt Is Out of Control

2011-08-09 Thread Bhairitu
You're truly an Idiocrat. I'm not against rich people just the excessively rich or what we call the oligarchs. I have rich friends. And they agree with me. Having 1% of the country own 95% is NOT a good idea. You must believe in hierarchies, kings, duchesses, lords and counts. You probabl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Subjectivity Ever Be Considered Objective?

2011-08-09 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > Bzzt. Any argument that depends on "buy in" to either > the concept of God or belief that you or anyone else knows > what his/her/its perspective is is of no interest to me. You > react to my question about considering subjective bel

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yes, Virginia, there IS a more self-indulgent director than David Lynch

2011-08-09 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/09/2011 05:08 AM, whynotnow7 wrote: > "This is why we have critics. Someone has to have the courage to tell viewers > that they're watching crap, because they are clearly unable to discern this > for themselves." > > I have found that often what critics think about a movie is the direct >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Subjectivity Ever Be Considered Objective?

2011-08-09 Thread maskedzebra
Bzzt. Any argument that depends on "buy in" to either the concept of God or belief that you or anyone else knows what his/her/its perspective is is of no interest to me. You react to my question about considering subjective belief to be objective fact by declaring your subjective belief to be o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Subjectivity Ever Be Considered Objective?

2011-08-09 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote: > > God has only a first person perspective on his Creation. Bzzt. Any argument that depends on "buy in" to either the concept of God or belief that you or anyone else knows what his/her/its perspective is is of no interest to me. You r

[FairfieldLife] Re: US National Debt Is Out of Control

2011-08-09 Thread emptybill
Yep, it is the old communist workers quote: "We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us." Barry2 just loves hating anyone receiving more then him. In his eyes it make them all robber barons. This is a feature of the old communista-s. I work with one from Eastern Europe and he is exceedingly j

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Have you given up?

2011-08-09 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 8, 2011, at 4:34 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > And while I'm on adolescent fixations like Twilight I would like to add that > the lack of Justin Bieber fans here is looking much more like a conscious > conspiracy than just an accident. If only! The other people you mention, Curtis, I'v

[FairfieldLife] With tenderness and coaxing:Anna Prohaska, soprano

2011-08-09 Thread merudanda
Viewer discretion is advised? or close your eyes(!) and just enjoy the "voice" [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XbmN-GJP8U http://tinyurl.com/3kjql3h Durch Zärtlichkeit und Schmeicheln, Blondchen's aria from "Die Entführung aus dem Serail" Durch Zärtlichkeit und Schmeicheln,With tendernes

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Dangers of Magical Thinking

2011-08-09 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 9, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Vaj wrote: > from the upcoming God and the Folly of Faith by Victor Stenger Excellent, Vaj~~thanks! Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > "So it was the believer's confidence in their ability to plumb his soul > what I was comparing, not his deeds or pathological mass murdering > mindset." > Who are these believers? Innocent, gullible, feudal mindset of 1940's > Chinese vs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Subjectivity Ever Be Considered Objective?

2011-08-09 Thread merudanda
Bake, bake, bake a cake/The baker called out [;)] (!) (Finding Truth/Objectivity in Constructivist Psychotherapy [:-?] ?) Backe, backe Kuchen,/der Bäcker hat gerufen./Wer will feinen Kuchen backen,/der muss haben 7 Sachen:/Zucker und Salz,/Butter und Schmalz,/Eier und Mehl/,Safran macht den Kuchen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Subjectivity Ever Be Considered Objective?

2011-08-09 Thread maskedzebra
God has only a first person perspective on his Creation. That first person perspective obviates the need for a third person perspective (in the case of this necessary being whose substance is the same as his existence: he is his own existence: we aren't; our nature [human being] and our individu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > "Oh...well then...WTF are you defending him for?" > > I'm not defending M, I'm attacking you - big difference. > > Again this is obvious. I have to agree with R

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > "So if you can associate my name with an negative emotion it might make > it look as if my POV is less valuable... nice work" > You may have intellectually numbed yourself into projecting everything > as POV's and opinion's but I haven't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paean to Ingegerd Engfeldt

2011-08-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > The Turqo critizised Judy for not knowing what she was talking about because > she never met Maharishi. Now Curtis tries the same trick. Same old trick. > Big difference Nabbie. Ravi never studied his teaching either. But he is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Face of Jesus hidden in Tennessee motor home

2011-08-09 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > http://www.theblaze.com/stories/holy-relic-that-shows-true-face-of-jesus-christ-hidden-in-tennessee-motor-home/ Hey, that's right up there with crop circles:-)

[FairfieldLife] Occam's Electric Razor

2011-08-09 Thread turquoiseb
As I've said a few times on this free speech forum, I'm a fan of Internet free speech forums. I think they're a fine mechanism for juggling the often-confusing reality of our subjective experiences with the more-often-confusing reality of objective fact. People get to "weigh in" with their subjecti

[FairfieldLife] Can Subjectivity Ever Be Considered Objective?

2011-08-09 Thread turquoiseb
I seem to have a subjective memory of glimpsing, in that half-second between realizing that a post I've clicked on is from MZ and reaching for the Next button, him saying something about his mind having an objective component. I got the impression, in the second that I paused, considering this, tha

[FairfieldLife] What does "enlightened" mean?

2011-08-09 Thread turquoiseb
What is your personal definition of "enlightenment?" Where did it come from? I would suggest that these two questions are inexorably linked, and some thought can be productively given to that link. In another spiritual tradition, albeit a short-lived one, the definition of enlightenment given to s

[FairfieldLife] Man shapes his tools, and thereafter they shape him

2011-08-09 Thread turquoiseb
The Subject line is from Marshall McLuhan. He was primarily concerned with media, and with physical tools like plows and computers. The point of his aphorism is that shortly after adopting a new tool, humans quickly become dependent on it, so much so that they take it for granted and can no longer

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