To the writer of this letter. I was really touched in reading your and feel how
difficult this must be for you. It must have been hard to write this and I hope
it brought some relief. Hopefully it will lead to healing around this
experience.
I wanted to share a quote that I've always
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
Doesn't matter where it comes from. The only question is whether it's
factual.
You're aware this stuff all emanates from the right
I keep wondering how some intelligent people I know can still be
supporting Hillary. I'd been coming to the conclusion that people see
what they want to see, believe what they want to believe... I decided
that probably those who still strongly support her simply can't see
what I see. Now I know
For those of you who knew Stephen Whittle or might be interested in a
beautiful selection of etchings, a new website has been launched by
his widow, Philippa.
http://www.whittleetchings.com/
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[video starts after brief ad]:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23726367#23726367
Great video -- right on the mark!
Do you know when the interview occurred or when this was first aired?
Thanks.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My guess is there will be a resurgence for some teachers and some will
drift away. Chances are there will be some divisions as no one will
be recognized as the sole, supreme keeper of truth. I imagine the
movement won't end,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
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I didn't say it was of no value. I said I don't see
why the state is higher. If I experience two
radically different states of consciousness at will,
then why would I call one higher than the other? They
are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm just finding myself more like Curtis these days,
open to *many* different interpretations of experiences
that I once saw only one interpretation of -- the one
I had been taught to consider the only interpretation.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
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I've noticed the same thing whenever I've worked with
the dying.
I've also noticed that sometimes there is amazing
grace and the dying person drops being the person and
becomes radiant loving and light. Have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vaj, I have a question about an experience I have at times during
sleep (or is it during waking?). I'm curious how you would interpret
it. Usually it happens after I've awakened during the night and don't
fall back to sleep. At
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, abutilon108 abutilon108@
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snip
I did want to say, however, that the term group delusion has
come up in my mind about the TMO. I don't think it's any
different, though
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
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It does seem impossible to evaluate anyone else's experience.
Certainly our experiences, spiritual or otherwise, are colored by
innumerable factors having to do with our unique conditioning. I did
want to say,
People's self awareness and capacity for genuine introspection is a
completely separate development from any spiritual practice. Some
people develop it and some do not. (New improved by FFL version)
Doesn't seem to me that the development of these has anything to do
with spiritual practice.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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It goes to the heart of what does meditation improve or add to one's
life?
Wow -- this is such a complex question for me when I start to think
about it. First of all, cause and effect seems less and less like a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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Curtis, you said That said, I do feel an increase of slight
dissociation (not meant as a pejorative) and I am still evaluating the
pros and cons of this alteration. I am not assuming that it is
either positive or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
authfriend wrote, Could it have been what MMY calls witnessing,
a sense of the separation of the Self and activity?
That's *supposed* to be a sign of the beginning of
the first stage of enlightenment in MMY's formulation,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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Curtis said, At first I sort of resisted using a mantra since I do
experience a
similar state without one once I close my eyes and let silence
dominate my attention.
When I close my eyes to meditate, I am never aware
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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I just don't think that it has all
been figured out hundreds of years ago in traditional religious
cultures.
I'm wondering how much benefit can actually be derived from tradition?
How accurate is anything that is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I've had two different experiences -- one which I now call
witnessing and the other which I call dissociation. I'm trying to
come up with how to describe them, partly to answer your question but
also to clarify them
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sticheau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I read John Hagelin's note and my eye got caught on the words very
enlightened as he was describing Tony Nader. As I understand it,
pregnancy, virginity, and enlightenment are pretty exclusive
conditions, as in: you is
I seem to remember MMY once writing that everything is the action of
the three gunas, but that it was better either not to entertain this
knowledge or not to share it with those who are not ready for this
understanding and might misinterpret it and (I presume) use it as a
basis to be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Once upon a time, I thought the TMO in the US was a registered
non-profit and as such accountable with the necessity of
record-keeping and reporting and so on. How is it that so much money
can get syphoned off to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are correct though, perhaps I just
have to live with the puzzles and accept them for what they are,
rather than try to sift and winnow. I could do that for the rest of
my life and not really know for sure. Seeking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think Rick should be commended for this, and for
having had the foresight to have created a forum
that will become a resource for many AS they work
out their conflicting feelings.
Yes! Thank you, thank you,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The modern interpretation of a demigod is a human being who has
attained the status of a saint among the eyes of the people. In other
words, a saint becomes a unique force of Nature for carrying out the
Divine Will.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
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If some things happen that aren't an expression of Divine Will, what
will would be causing them?
Does anything ever happen that *isn't* an expression of Divine Will?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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Thanks for your comments about what I wrote, very insightful. I
especially dug when you talked about people projecting special power
on to you. And you knew it! Good for you.
I'm still working it all out. I
I'm thankful to Deepak for sharing his personal experiences with
Maharishi and the circumstances of his leaving the movement. Of
course, it's a beautifully written piece, and seems quite
straightforward and honest. Clearly Chopra is reflecting on the
contradictory impressions he is left with of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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You know, I am trying to find an understanding of what went on with
Maharishi.
Me too! It's an interesting process. First he became a fallible
human being and then the question of what was actually going on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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I think the special sounds
business was only important for branding. I thought in the beginning
of teaching in India Maharishi only used the mantra Raam? Later the
articulated system came out which would have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
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As far as objectivity, I would say I am as objective as anyone here. We
all view the world through our own experiences.
Yes, how could anyone ever be completely objective? IMO objectivity
doesn't really exist!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again, though, the circuit is within one's own
consciousness, not a circuit between one's
consciousness and something external (at least
in the esoteric TM context).
About this reply -- Most religions, or at least people's
Our conclusions are so similar to mine (and least thus far on my
journey). You've written them so concisely and clearly.
Although I only visit FFL occasionally, I've been reading a lot since
MMY's death. I too find it a valuable place for sorting out my
thoughts and feelings about this
I've pretty much read through this thread, wvansant111, and have
really appreciated your open, straightforward posts in which you share
your own unique story and questions.
As background, I was a governor and heavily involved in the TMO at
one time, then gradually drifted away with involvement
Re: this quote from Domash's essay:
The Shankaracharya tradition has preserved not only
these sounds, but also a system of rules or formulae by which
they are to be assigned to individuals, the idea being that a
particular sound has a quality that resonates best with the
structure of a
I signed the pledge much later on and I'm quite sure the wording was
different. It seems not everyone would have signed the same pledge,
although as I remember what you were agreeing to was pretty much the same.
A beautiful post from another online community --
I am finding this to be a very intriguing thread as several of those
who have replied have brought up the issues of freedom of expression
and sensitivity. I have been doing some research on various types of
expression lately and thought that maybe
I love this checklist! Is this your creation, Vaj? It reminded me of
when I was very involved with Gangaji some years back. I fell into
some of these funny traps.
If I've experienced anything that could be called progress on my
spiritual journey, I feel it's finally being able to speak and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
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Thanks for your impressions. The language form she uses is clearly
meant to shift states of awareness. It would work better in a room
where you didn't have other entertainment options pulling at you, I
suspect.
Wondering if anyone has tried the BodyVed program and if so, what the
experience with it has been. Any results?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use a mantra with OM in it. Have been for several years. Material and
spiritual well-being have improved significantly during this period.
I tried to post this and it doesn't seem to have appeared so I'm
trying again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use a mantra with OM in it. Have been for several years. Material and
spiritual well-being have improved significantly during this period.
What type of meditation do you do with the mantra? Japa? Out loud?
Is it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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All from just somebody who has gone to a 3 week course putting his
hands on their heads. Is this moodmaking or what?
This guy has gone to the 3 week diksha course in India and then a 10
day 'deepening' as he
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