? At this point he's barely human...
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--In FairfieldLife
?
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Xeno,
I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence for disagreeing
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--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
I certainly wouldn't have expected you to agree, Curtis
You seem to be just trolling. Do you practice TM? I was talking about things
that spiritual practices advertise they can bring into one's awareness. These
things are private, you cannot prove you have these kinds of experiences. My
body has a mother and father, my awareness does not, the
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Jim has lost it before and will lose it again, but this is by far the worst
case of losing it so far.
Enlightened? At this point he's barely human...
If you are the benchmark for the def of human then you are absolutely
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Jim has lost it before and will lose it again, but this is by far the worst
case of losing it so far.
Enlightened? At this point he's barely human...
This is a lot of airy talk, though telling. My concern after having read it,
is, I feel it was written by someone who takes less than complete
responsibility for their life, and their personal thoughts and actions. Taking
this line, of the strong possibility of random action, so seriously, as
On 10/20/2014 11:43 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Xeno,
I'm flabbergasted at the statements you just said. In the physical
existence of human beings here on earth, everyone has to have a mother
and a father. Were you not created by your father's sperm that
impregnated your
**
I think the reason this happens is that Jim and other
spiritual/religious types don't realise their beliefs are emotional
rather than logical and insult any contrarians in an accordingly
similar way to how they feel they've been slighted.
On 10/21/2014 3:09 AM, TurquoiseBee
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 10/20/2014 11:43 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Xeno,
I'm flabbergasted at the statements you just said. In the physical existence
of human beings here on earth, everyone has to have a mother
]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 10/20/2014 11:43 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote
On 10/21/2014 8:27 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
You seem to be just trolling.
/Now that's a thought-stopper!/
Do you practice TM?
/Non sequitur.//TM has not been defined./
I was talking about things that spiritual practices advertise they
can bring into one's
, and the Maharishi Effect really IS like winning
the Trifecta of Idiocy. How does a mind *become* this weak?
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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 10/20/2014 11:43 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Xeno,
I'm flabbergasted at the statements you just said
there seem to be 2 questions running through this thread: 1) is a belief in
God a mental illness and 2) is a belief in God justifiable.
the first question is too cumbersome for me - having the notion of mental
illness imbedded in the question . . . and I can't speak as to what a mental
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:33 PM
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--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote
M: I hope you don't mind me weighing in,this was a particularly thought
provoking post. I too am an amateur philosopher. But I am not sure philosophy
is the right discipline to answer your question from, except to enhance the
discussion of how could we know?
Here is the section you quite
Fresh air blowing through the Funny Farm Lounge from DC area and Madison.
Thanks guys for this example of FFL at its best.
On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:18 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
M: I hope you don't mind me weighing in,this
]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Fresh air blowing through the Funny Farm Lounge from DC area and Madison.
Thanks
On 10/21/2014 10:42 AM, inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
there seem to be 2 questions running through this thread: 1) is a
belief in God a mental illness and 2) is a belief in God justifiable.
/There are actually three questions running through this thread://
//
/
1. /Is
Curtis, I just had a lunch of veggies and salmon so maybe my brain is a little
more up to respond. Maybe! Definitely not as good as Sam Harris (-:
Anyway, my questions are:
1. how do we know that we know? Which is kind of abstract and probably just me
reliving a past life as a haetera!
2.
Everyone in the forum is invited to participate in this
discussion to ask Xeno about his revelations regarding his
physical existence.
/Everyone on this forum seems to believe in causation - that for
every event there is a cause. The question is if everything that
I enjoyed your response till you went its all about Barry on my ass Richard.
I am not on board with your use of the term inference and its validity in
gaining knowledge on its own. It is one of the pieces of the epistemological
puzzle and fraught with issues. Nor do I accept that the claim of
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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:54 PM
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I enjoyed your response till you went its all about Barry
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Curtis, I just had a lunch of veggies and salmon so maybe my brain is a little
more up to respond. Maybe! Definitely not as good as Sam Harris (-:
Anyway, my questions are:
1. how do we know that we know? Which is kind of
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Curtis, I just had a lunch of veggies and salmon so maybe my brain is a little
more up to respond. Maybe
Xeno,
You are changing your tune today which is clearly not what you stated
yesterday. Earlier, you said that everything that exists has no cause. Then
you said that:
As far as my experience is concerned, I have always existed. The body that
gives me eyes seems to have had prior
, October 21, 2014 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Curtis, I just had a lunch of veggies and salmon so maybe my brain is a little
more up to respond. Maybe! Definitely
Richard,
Your points are excellent. It's good that you reminded us of Aristotle's idea
regarding the first cause and principle. But it appears that there are some
people here who will disagree with you on this point.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
Trem23,
Regarding Q1, you have to understand who started this thread in the first
place. The person who started it is a self-proclaimed non-theist. You can
ask him what this means. You may or may not get a consistent answer from him.
Regarding Q2, MMY said that everything in the world
Yes you got the spirit of my thoughts, and thanks for chiming in.The heart
of it was this sentence: ' I include anything that is physical/material, or
anything that interacts with the physical/material.'
especially the . . . and anything that interacts with the physical/material
because
On 10/21/2014 12:07 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Curtis, I just had a lunch of veggies and salmon so maybe my brain is
a little more up to respond. Maybe! Definitely not as good as Sam
Harris (-:
According to Sam Harris consciousness is the only thing that
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
This is a lot of airy talk, though telling. My concern after having read it,
is, I feel it was written by someone who takes less than complete
responsibility for their life, and their personal thoughts and actions. Taking
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :No
Xeno,
You are changing your tune today which is clearly not what you stated
yesterday. Earlier, you said that everything that exists has no cause. Then
you said that:
As far as my experience is concerned, I have always
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, inmadison@... wrote :
there seem to be 2 questions running through this thread: 1) is a belief in
God a mental illness and 2) is a belief in God justifiable.
the first question is too cumbersome for me - having the notion of mental
illness imbedded in
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, inmadison@... wrote :
Yes you got the spirit of my thoughts, and thanks for chiming in.The heart
of it was this sentence: ' I include anything that is physical/material, or
anything that interacts with the physical/material.'
especially the . .
, October 21, 2014 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
It's such a delight to read something written by someone who can still think,
Curtis. Thanks.
The very IDEA that someone could
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, inmadison@... wrote :
Yes you got the spirit of my thoughts, and thanks for chiming in.The heart
of it was this sentence: ' I include anything that is physical/material, or
On 10/21/2014 1:57 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Richard,
Your points are excellent. It's good that you reminded us of
Aristotle's idea regarding the first cause and principle. But it
appears that there are some people here who will disagree with you on
this point.
/So
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
I may not respond point by point Ann. You and I have our clear channel. I
think we get each other. I am more of a one one one poster here. Steve nailed
me recently. He said I respond to everyone in sympathetic response to
That's a nice piece Ann.
I feel as though I have a pretty good idea of the real person behind
people's online persona.
I think you might be referring to Barry in some of what you say here.
I've had a changing relationship with him.
He thinks I've changed. I think he's changed.
As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical wiring
and growth of the brain, causes not necessarily known. Mental illness is not
considered a contagious disease. So contrary to the title Barry gave to this
thread, the hook if you will, belief in god is not a mental
Xeno,
Thank you for your ideas. I believe we've exhausted this debate. There is no
point to continue.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :No
Xeno,
You are changing your tune today which is clearly
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Xeno,
I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence for disagreeing with the
statements in the Kalam Cosmological Argument. But he just gave me a lot of
song and dance
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
x exists
x does not exist
I do not know what the phrase 'begins to exist' means, especially in regard to
the universe as a whole. If x were
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Yep, Lenz was fucked up, no doubt about it, but I question that he aligned
himself with the 'bad guys'. Despite confusion about it, and longstanding
stories, there really are not any 'bad guys' who can produce any
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
No, people become insulted. A person saying x might be interpreted by y
] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Xeno,
I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence for disagreeing with the
statements in the Kalam Cosmological
My personal take jr. is that those who insist actions have no causality, is
that it gives them a free pass for screwing up their life, and then claiming,
But, I couldn't have known!!.
Curtis is a fairly unsuccessful street performer, and Barry has no skills or
money, or relationships. Ever
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Xeno,
I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence for disagreeing with the
statements in the Kalam Cosmological Argument. But he just gave me a lot of
song and dance about his opinions without providing the evidence
On 10/19/2014 6:59 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence for disagreeing with
the statements in the Kalam Cosmological Argument. But he just gave
me a lot of song and dance about his opinions without providing the
evidence for his
the Trifecta of Idiocy. How does a mind *become* this weak?
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Xeno,
I have
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Xeno,
Are you saying that the human mind would not be able to fathom the meaning of
begins to exist? If that is so, how is it possible for you to begin and end
a project at work or at home?
But we know that NASA has been able
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
See what I mean? Curtis refuted John's idiotic argument point by point, and HE
DIDN'T EVEN HEAR IT. The only thing he can do is repeat the same stupid thing
he's already repeated -- and had refuted -- here on FFL dozens of time in
You wish to offload the feelings you have in response to what someone says to
you, about you, about others, to that someone for blame or revenge? In my
experience, whether or not a person is nice or abusive, that person always
distorts another person's values and ideas because no two minds are
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Yes, they are both a piece of work. I think both of them take extreme views,
in social settings, because both of them feel to be outsiders, in the world
they inhabit. Their position reminds me of that of the most
Now if you think Barry is abusive, bitter, negative, and we suppose this were
true, how much space would you allow him to vent his frustrations and give him
the opportunity to grow?
What you seem to forget is that the Turq has been doing his negative routine
here for many years without
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
You wish to offload the feelings you have in response to what someone says to
you, about you, about others, to that someone for blame or revenge? In my
experience, whether or not a person is nice or abusive, that person always
Busking and begging for cents on the street-corners while singing the blues
wasn't enough to provide him a descent living. The teaching job must have been
sent from heaven !
I don't know what it means, explain it to me, as you seem to know what it
means. That NASA sent Curiosity to Mars is not logically connected to your
statement that 'it appears that humans know can understand the meaning of
begins to exist. You may have connected it in your mind, but not in the
God would not make bitter, angry, inflexible curmudgeons if He in is sublime
glory did not want it so. Let Thy will be done.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Now if you think Barry is abusive, bitter, negative, and we suppose this were
true, how much
I think you are on the right track Ann. Particularly nettle-some in a
discussion of ultimate origins is time. In current cosmology, time-space did
not exist prior to the universe, therefore there was no time before the
universe's beginning and it is meaningless to speak of events or anything as
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Xeno,
I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence for disagreeing
I agree, Ann. As I mentioned earlier, there is nothing helpful, educational, or
socially acceptable in the way Barry acts, and that should be plainly obvious.
Pointing it out is a normal response, much as I would comment to my wife and
others, were Barry ranting and abusing others, in the
No problem, however, God also, in His sublime glory, allows me to see Barry as
the bitter, abusive, clueless, angry, broke, unhappy, emotionally stunted,
romantically empty, little nobody, that he is!
Yes, Praise God! Let Thy Will Be Done!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius
No alcoholics in my immediate family. Sometimes I just like crusty old
bastards. I have to shut down now. I have a couple of prescriptions I have to
fill at the local hospital. They want to stick some needles in this old body of
mine so they can construct a time line to the grave. There was no
For me, turq is like a wounded bear in a cage. I don't think poking at him with
sticks is really gonna improve the situation! Plus, it's really unkind imo.
On Monday, October 20, 2014 10:42 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
No alcoholics in
More enabling, dude. You are in it, deep. Sometimes I just like crusty old
bastards. You forgot to add, when they share the same bitter and empty world
view, as I do. As I recall, you took me to task for saying fuck too often, so
I doubt it is the crust you like, as much as someone living in a
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
I think you are on the right track Ann. Particularly nettle-some in a
discussion of ultimate origins is time. In current cosmology, time-space did
not exist prior to the universe, therefore there was no time before the
universe's
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
For me, turq is like a wounded bear in a cage. I don't think poking at him
with sticks is really gonna improve the situation! Plus, it's really unkind imo.
Interesting analogy Share. But at some point you have to realize
Share, Barry needs to learn to live with his karma, like the rest of the adults
here. That is all it is. If it is uncomfortable for him, so what? We all have
our lessons to learn, and the fact that being an asshole is not socially
acceptable, carries consequences with it. Yes, we can all feel
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
No alcoholics in my immediate family. Sometimes I just like crusty old
bastards. I have to shut down now. I have a couple of prescriptions I have to
fill at the local hospital. They want to stick some needles in this old body of
Yes, Barry can own his own shit. He is a lousy human being, imo.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
For me, turq is like a wounded bear in a cage. I don't think poking at him
with sticks is really
We need to be aware of the fact that there is physical causality and there is
philosopical causality.
In Buddhist philosophy, karma is the theory of action and result based on the
theory of interdependent co-arising or dependent origination which states:
everything arises in dependence upon
?
*From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, October 20, 2014 1:59 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Xeno,
I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence for disagreeing
For me, turq is like a wounded bear in a cage. I don't think poking at
him with sticks is really gonna improve the situation! Plus, it's
really unkind imo.
On 10/20/2014 10:58 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Interesting analogy Share. But at some point you have to
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
No alcoholics in my immediate family. Sometimes I just like crusty old
bastards. I have to shut down now. I have a couple of prescriptions I have to
fill at the local
* this weak?
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Xeno,
I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Or, that you're pulling a Curtis on us.
M: It has not gone unnoticed that these little snipes are in place of your
actually refuting what I wrote reasonably. It was you who proposed that the
silly syllogism was a proof for God that would
@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Xeno,
I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence for disagreeing with the
statements in the Kalam Cosmological Argument. But he just gave me a lot of
song
of Idiocy. How does a mind *become* this weak?
From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Xeno,
I have asked Curtis about
Xeno,
After a long introduction to your reasoning, you state that: I tend to
prefer 'everything that exists has no cause'. Everything is just there. That is
my position.
IMO, you're statement is the same as saying everything that begins to exist
has no cause. But, in either case, your
On 10/20/2014 5:32 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Xeno,
After a long introduction to your reasoning, you state that: I tend
to prefer 'everything that exists has no cause'. Everything is just
there. That is my position.
Everything that exists has a cause.
/The philosophical
'Everything that exists has no cause' is not the equivalent of 'everything that
begins to exist has no cause'. No beginning is stated or implied. I said
nothing about 'begins'. I was talking about existence without time. The
eternity of space and things but no time. Like a still photograph,
Xeno,
I'm flabbergasted at the statements you just said. In the physical existence
of human beings here on earth, everyone has to have a mother and a father.
Were you not created by your father's sperm that impregnated your mother's egg?
Didn't she carry you in her womb for 9 months
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--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
I certainly wouldn't have expected you to agree, Curtis, but your response
hasn't changed my
.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:13 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Ann,
Your observation is excellent. It appears that for some people here think
that being called a believer is uncool and, a worst, an Ebola case. As such,
they avoid giving any logical evidence for their assertions in order to be
undefined, ambiguous and definitely not known as a
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Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:55 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Ann,
Your observation is excellent. It appears that for some people here think that
being
You're both just loudmouthed, weak-minded louts,
Typical of the Turq and a way of behaving he STILL carries with him from the
time spent with his crazy guru.
: Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:55 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Ann,
Your observation is excellent. It appears that for some people here think
that being called a believer is uncool and, a worst, an Ebola case. As such,
they avoid giving any
Yes, without serious therapy, it is the only behavior he knows. It was deeply
programmed into him, by someone who I believe, was simply a criminal. As much
as I dislike Barry's behavior, he didn't dream it up on his own. However, he is
still responsible, for its consequences, and for his lack
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Ann,
Your observation is excellent. It appears that for some people here think
that being called a believer is uncool and, a worst, an Ebola case. As such,
they avoid giving any logical evidence for their assertions in order to
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
John is *finally* starting to get it.
I'm treating him (and other idiots that believe as he does) the way *they*
(believers in the invisible man in the sky) have been treating non-believers
for thousands of years. Back in
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
You sound very much like Freddie, here, Barry.
Here's the Lenz playbook:
1. Always go after the last one who disagreed with you. This is why jr. is
finally coming in for some serious attention (abuse), from you.
You are both missing my point. I am not anti-belief. I have a million of them
that I have chosen, and some that I just absorbed without good reasons.
I am anti bad reasons supporting beliefs.
Tomorrow I will be in a class of 5th graders using blues songs to demonstrate
how you have to pay
that their subjective experience constitutes objective
proof.
It doesn't, and never will.
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levitate THEN, Lenz is Rama,
ELSE GOD. /
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All good points, Curtis. Yeah, the God thing is a real conundrum. Something in
this universe likes the polarity of it; can't prove it/it is everywhere. Unlike
any rational argument, I cannot justify God in any other way, except for a
subtle *sense* of His and Her work. There is no way to prove
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