Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

On Aug 23, 2009, at 12:56 AM, raunchydog wrote: Raunchydog wrote: "I'm not asking you to buy anything. Just answer the question. Why do researchers find "frontal alpha coherence" in TM'ers and not in people simply relaxing or in other meditation techniques? No answer implies you either do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > This exchange illustrates perfectly what I've been > > saying for some time now. When Vaj is challenged, > > instead of rising to the challenge, he fades...and > > danc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "authfriend" wrote: > > This exchange illustrates perfectly what I've been > saying for some time now. When Vaj is challenged, > instead of rising to the challenge, he fades...and > dances...and sings...and stands on hi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Vaj wrote: > No, not at all, I'm familiar with brain measurements and neuroscience> Lol ! You have a high school education...and what else? > > If you ever had to own up to the fact that TM produces EEG > > brainwave

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > This exchange illustrates perfectly what I've been > saying for some time now. When Vaj is challenged, > instead of rising to the challenge, he fades...and > dances...and sings...and stands on his head...and > twists and turns...and wig

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Dying the cloth of inner happiness. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3047291.stm > > "There is something about conscientious Buddhist practice that > results in the kind of happiness we all seek." > > Paul Ekman, > University of Califo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Hi RD: > > On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:50 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 22, 2009, at 4:28 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

This exchange illustrates perfectly what I've been saying for some time now. When Vaj is challenged, instead of rising to the challenge, he fades...and dances...and sings...and stands on his head...and twists and turns...and wiggles his ears...and thumbs his nose...but he NEVER RESPONDS TO THE CHAL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

Hi RD: On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:50 PM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 22, 2009, at 4:28 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:39 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > > > > > > Th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 22, 2009, at 4:28 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:39 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > > > > > > Then how come, "Frontal alpha coherence is not reported in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

Vaj wrote: >> >> Cleaning house the other day I came across my copy of "The Physical and >> Psychological Effects of Meditation " the 1988 book by Michael Murphy >> and Steven Donovan published by Esalen Institute. I'm going to have to >> thumb through some of those studies again. ;-) > > Probably

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:39 PM, raunchydog wrote: > >> Then how come, "Frontal alpha coherence is not reported in other >> meditation practices? > > > It isn't considered important because it's low integration and common. > Usually me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

Vaj wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:39 PM, raunchydog wrote: > >> Then how come, "Frontal alpha coherence is not reported in other >> meditation practices? > > > It isn't considered important because it's low integration and common. > Usually meditation will only briefly stay in alpha until it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

On Aug 22, 2009, at 4:28 PM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:39 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > > Then how come, "Frontal alpha coherence is not reported in other > > meditation practices? > > Travis isn't talking about "just" alpha wh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

On Aug 22, 2009, at 4:04 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Boy, was I disappointed when I first heard that. Wake up call! Pity then that you didn't "wake up" but joined, or perhaps you've been there all along, Buddhism; perhaps the most stagnated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:39 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > > Then how come, "Frontal alpha coherence is not reported in other > > meditation practices? > > Travis isn't talking about "just" alpha which anyone can demonstrate doing biofeedback

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Boy, was I disappointed when I first heard that. Wake up call! Pity then that you didn't "wake up" but joined, or perhaps you've been there all along, Buddhism; perhaps the most stagnated and formalized of all the major and dry religions on e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > Boy, was I disappointed when I first heard that. Wake up call! >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

On Aug 21, 2009, at 11:11 PM, WillyTex wrote: Vaj wrote: > Ah yes, James Austin. Good stuff! > Ah yes, James Austin, the same James Austin that cites Herbert Benson, who as everyone knows, first published the results of TM with Keith Wallace. According to Austin, scientists have mapped the rela

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:39 PM, raunchydog wrote: Then how come, "Frontal alpha coherence is not reported in other meditation practices? It isn't considered important because it's low integration and common. Usually meditation will only briefly stay in alpha until it goes to deeper levels

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > What strikes me as uncool is feeling > > > that a cool thing attributable to Buddhism mus

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

Vaj wrote: > Ah yes, James Austin. Good stuff! > Ah yes, James Austin, the same James Austin that cites Herbert Benson, who as everyone knows, first published the results of TM with Keith Wallace. According to Austin, scientists have mapped the relaxation response in TM meditation. Makes one won

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:49 AM, raunchydog wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > Dying the cloth of inner happiness. > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3047291.stm > > > > > > "There is something

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > [snip] > > What strikes me as uncool is feeling > > that a cool thing attributable to Buddhism must somehow > > be "countered" because it isn't attributable to TM. > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > [snip] > > > What strikes me as uncool is feeling > > that a cool thing attributable to Buddhism must somehow > > be "countered" because it isn't attributable to TM. => > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: [snip] What strikes me as uncool is feeling > that a cool thing attributable to Buddhism must somehow > be "countered" because it isn't attributable to TM. > What strikes 'me' as uncool is your assumption that my post had anything at all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

Ah yes, James Austin. Good stuff! On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:33 AM, shinkai_birx wrote: Tricycle: the Buddhist Review (Fall 2009 issue) presents an informative article beginning on page 58 entitled "This Is Your Brain On Zen".

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

Thanks to all of you so far who have tried to keep the spirit of Vaj's original post alive instead of crapping on it. It's fascinating to me, especially in the context of my current vacation in the Pyrenees, to see how a life spent in the pursuit of Buddhist (or spiritual) goals can affect how yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

What Makes Us Happy? "The job isn't conforming, it isn't keeping up with the Jones'. It is playing and working and loving. And loving is probably the most important. Happiness is love. Full stop." For 72 years, researchers at Harvard have been examining this question, following 268 men

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

Tricycle: the Buddhist Review (Fall 2009 issue) presents an informative article beginning on page 58 entitled "This Is Your Brain On Zen". --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:49 AM, raunchydog wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:49 AM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Dying the cloth of inner happiness. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3047291.stm > > "There is something about conscientious Buddhist practice that > results in the kind of happiness we all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddhists 'really are happier'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Dying the cloth of inner happiness. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3047291.stm > > "There is something about conscientious Buddhist practice that > results in the kind of happiness we all seek." > > Paul Ekman, > University of Califo