[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: As to the various flavours of those who believe in various interpretations of reality, I recall reading a comment on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-06 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: As to the various flavours of those who believe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I think a little balance is in order, and hope to provide some from time to time. If my doing so occasionally causes people to act like the cultists they are and go all reactive and paranoid and nasty trying to demonize

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-06 Thread Share Long
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: I think a little balance is in order, and hope to provide some from time to time. If my doing so occasionally causes people to act like the cultists they are and go all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-06 Thread doctordumbass
(-: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-06 Thread doctordumbass
With old age comes inflexibility and the loss of mental agility which is more than evident in your posts Actually, I think you must *work* on closing your mind, to have that occur as you age. Both my father in law at 86, and my dear departed father, at 89, have and had far more flexible and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Easy - Turq is no longer, old as f*ck. He has advanced to his next step, rotting.:-) That's right, his posts do have a certain odour :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: With old age comes inflexibility and the loss of mental agility which is more than evident in your posts Actually, I think you must *work* on closing your mind, to have that occur as you age. Both my father in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-05 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Hey Curtis, I always thought it was an agnostic who doesn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-05 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for keeping the rap going. I'd like to focus on a few points. **Yeah, again, you must provide an example here. This ooga booga unconsciousness I don't know about. Even when I am asleep I have self-awareness. So I don't know what it is I should be facing, according to you, when

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-05 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
As to the various flavours of those who believe in various interpretations of reality, I recall reading a comment on atheism somewhere that those who believe atheism is like a religious belief are looking at the situation in the same way a person imagines that baldness is a hair color. There do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-05 Thread curtisdeltablues
Excellent post. I had never heard the baldness analogy but it will become a part of my future raps off the board. I am not sure that this: These are hypothetical constructs the mind/brain maps onto unbounded being. has meaning for me. I guess I am not convinced that we could subjectively

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism to Xeno

2013-03-05 Thread Share Long
for the person psychologically.  And here I thought you were a psychology eschewing philosopher (-: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 10:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-05 Thread doctordumbass
Hi Curtis - not sure what I have to say about all of this. Let me give it a whirl: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Thanks for keeping the rap going. I'd like to focus on a few points. **Yeah, again, you must provide an example here.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread seekliberation
I wouldn't go as far as saying that creation doesn't require the 'existence' of God, but more so it doesn't require an intricate belief system full of moral guidelines based on our perception of what God could, should, or would be. Creation exists regardless of what belief system we have or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying that creation doesn't require the 'existence' of God, but more so it doesn't require an intricate belief system full of moral guidelines based on our perception of what God could,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying that creation doesn't require the 'existence' of God, but more so it doesn't require an intricate belief system

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread seventhray27
Great article. Touches on many issues I think about. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: A guy climbs to a mountaintop, looks out at the beauty of creation, and realizes that none of it required the existence of a God.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: A guy climbs to a mountaintop, looks out at the beauty of creation, and realizes that none of it required the existence of a God. http://www.salon.com/2013/03/03/my_sober_conversion_to_atheism_partner/ I liked this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread doctordumbass
The only thing I have seen in atheists is that they were brought up with a *belief system* about God, which they now reject. OK. Joke is on them, strutting about and proclaiming no existence of God. All they need do, is quit thinking, just for 30 seconds, and they would rediscover God with a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: A guy climbs to a mountaintop, looks out at the beauty of creation, and realizes that none of it required the existence of a God.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: The only thing I have seen in atheists is that they were brought up with a *belief system* about God, which they now reject. OK. Joke is on them, strutting about and proclaiming no existence of God. All they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread doctordumbass
Sure, whole galaxies or universes may contract, disappear, and reappear from time to time, but that's nothing more than THE BREATHING OF A LARGER COSMOS [emphasis mine] -- breathe out, and you've got a universe; breathe in, and it goes poof! Sure sounds an awful lot like God at play; Lila. So,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread doctordumbass
I just did that very thing and didn't find god. Maybe you should see a doctor if you're getting voices in your head, could be serious. I didn't say, or imply, anything about voices in my head. Try not thinking for another 30 seconds, please, until the voices go away. Rinse and repeat.:-) ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread curtisdeltablues
Favorite topic: how non-atheists misunderstand or misstate the philosophical position of most atheists. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: The only thing I have seen in atheists is that they were brought up with a *belief system* about God, which they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread doctordumbass
Hey Curtis, I always thought it was an agnostic who doesn't know whether or not God exists, and that an atheist flatly denies the existence of God. I am referring to atheists, not agnostics. Atheists are those who deny their childish ideas, but have not yet advanced to adulthood. By this I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Hey Curtis, I always thought it was an agnostic who doesn't know whether or not God exists, and that an atheist flatly denies the existence of God. This is a common misconception about atheism. It has to do with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Hey Curtis, I always thought it was an agnostic who doesn't know whether or not God exists, and that an atheist flatly denies the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread doctordumbass
Hi Curtis, I did not say anything about beliefs, or use that word in my response. If atheism is merely an absence of the *belief* in God, that is a very positive thing. God is an ongoing journey, not a being described with static values, that are then pitted against us, by comparison. God is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread doctordumbass
Thanks for getting this ball rolling - one more thing I want to add, is a response to the challenge, How do I know that my world view is correct? Simple answer, I don't. However, I base my conclusions on my own experience. So far, the path I have chosen, has rewarded me incomprehensibly in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread John
The writer is obviously a confused man. He needs to spend some time in meditation to find out who he is. As such, he doesn't have to pray and still believe there is no God. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: A guy climbs to a mountaintop, looks out at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Thanks for getting this ball rolling - I think you get that credit. one more thing I want to add, is a response to the challenge, How do I know that my world view is correct? Simple answer, I don't. However, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-04 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Thanks for getting this ball rolling - I think you get that credit. one more thing I want to add, is a response to the