[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-30 Thread vajradhatu108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > > > Simple Mantra japa, though a good start, is far from knowing how to > > consciously withdraw to Samadhi. Most Westerners aren't ready for a > > Sat-Guru anyway and he probably knew that, (the demands a Sat-Guru places > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread whynotnow7
Heh heh I always get a kick out of your dry as sand wit, steve! I wouldn't even know at what rpm the akashic record plays. This statement is based on my sense of Guru Dev. Nothing more. It isn't meant to be definitive to anyone other than myself. Nonetheless, it is real enough to me, or was, for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread seventhray1
Hey, who needs a fly on the wall, when you have such clear access to the akashic records. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > Guru Dev was extremely powerful to create the momentum for Maharishi. Do you honestly think that someone such as Brahmananda Saraswati would've

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > Don't be so uptight. It might help to check out the front page for this group Ray. It's not a TM-only discussion group. If anything it's more of a "TM Watch" - or whatever watch. > > Interesting you don't seem to respond directly to my comment. W

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > Guru Dev was extremely powerful to create the momentum for Maharishi. Do you > honestly think that someone such as Brahmananda Saraswati would've have been > overly concerned about Maharishi teaching? The world is far larger than th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > Nah, Maharishi was fully enlightened. He showed me his vast, blazing > enlightenment. What, You think Guru Dev made a chump? No, Maharishi was Guru > Dev's darshan. Yeah, you KNOW MMY was enlightened, how so? It used to be said that in or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread whynotnow7
Guru Dev was extremely powerful to create the momentum for Maharishi. Do you honestly think that someone such as Brahmananda Saraswati would've have been overly concerned about Maharishi teaching? The world is far larger than that to Guru Dev. Such a thing is just another working of the Cosmos t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread Vaj
On Jan 29, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Peter wrote: > What, You think Guru Dev made a chump? No, Maharishi was Guru Dev's darshan. I don't believe he would have approved of him teaching. But I'm sure his proximity helped him gain some spiritual power.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread Vaj
On Jan 29, 2011, at 7:20 PM, seventhray1 wrote: > > > Better luck next time! > > > > Nah, Maharishi was fully enlightened. He showed me his vast, blazing > > enlightenment. What, You think Guru Dev made a chump? No, Maharishi was > > Guru Dev's darshan. > > For someone who seems to have found

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:20 PM, seventhray1 wrote: > > > > > > Better luck next time! > > > > Nah, Maharishi was fully enlightened. He showed me his vast, blazing > enlightenment. What, You think Guru Dev made a chump? No, Maharishi was Guru > Dev's darshan. > > For someone who seems to have foun

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread seventhray1
> > Better luck next time! > > Nah, Maharishi was fully enlightened. He showed me his vast, blazing enlightenment. What, You think Guru Dev made a chump? No, Maharishi was Guru Dev's darshan. For someone who seems to have found a bigger, better way, Vaj sure spends a lot of time around here. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread Peter
--- On Sat, 1/29/11, vajradhatu108 wrote: > From: vajradhatu108 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator. > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 5:30 PM > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "seekli

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-29 Thread vajradhatu108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > That brings up another good point. When I was a student at MIU/MUM I > remember a lot of anxiety going around regarding whether or not someone would > attain enlightenment in this lifetime. Later in life, while studying Vedic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-28 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: > > Like a man dying of thirst in the desert, is given a canteen of water, slakes his thirst and then complains about the color of the canteen! > > Or, like a man who gi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-28 Thread Peter
We differ in what it is seen as. Truly I think this applies: YMMV --- On Fri, 1/28/11, wgm4u wrote: > From: wgm4u > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator. > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 1:01 PM > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:01 PM, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: Like a man dying of thirst in the desert, is given a canteen of water, slakes his thirst and then complains about the color of the canteen! Or, like a man who gives you a boat with one oar

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-28 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: Like a man dying of thirst in the desert, is given a canteen of water, slakes his thirst and then complains about the color of the canteen! Or, like a man who gives you a boat with one oar. Or, how about a man who gives you a three le

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-28 Thread Peter
4u > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator. > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 11:15 AM > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Peter wrote: > > > > Yeah, this whole TM thing was such a scam. I was told &g

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:08 AM, seekliberation wrote: > > > MMY tried to seduce Western Culture (and India) into adopting MMY Vedic > Culture, he didn't come to the West to enlighten Joe Blow (you)as much as > you might like to think. > > Taking everything i've seen in the TMO into consideration,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-28 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > Yeah, this whole TM thing was such a scam. I was told that I would be > enlightened in 5 to 7 years and it took 16 years instead! What a ripoff! Generally speaking, I think you are saying that in spite of what MMY may have said, you are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-28 Thread Peter
Yeah, this whole TM thing was such a scam. I was told that I would be enlightened in 5 to 7 years and it took 16 years instead! What a ripoff! --- On Fri, 1/28/11, seekliberation wrote: > From: seekliberation > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator. > To: Fair

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-28 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > > That brings up another good point. When I was a student at > MIU/MUM I remember a lot of anxiety going around regarding > whether or not someone would attain enlightenment in this > lifetime. Later in life, while studying Vedic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-28 Thread seekliberation
> MMY tried to seduce Western Culture (and India) into adopting MMY Vedic > Culture, he didn't come to the West to enlighten Joe Blow (you)as much as you > might like to think. Taking everything i've seen in the TMO into consideration, I became convinced that the whole approach was one of two

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

2011-01-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > MMY tried to seduce Western Culture (and India) into adopting MMY Vedic > Culture, he didn't come to the West to enlighten Joe Blow (you)as much as you > might like to think. > > And he made no bones about it, his distaste for Western D