On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:04 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
Story 1:
My dad was an alcoholic.
Story 2:
My dad was an alcoholic who sexually abused me from the time I was
around 4 or 5 until my early teens...
I find these stories fascinating. To be
Bob
Your response, is, of course, ignorant and ignorant of the facts of
life and of the facts of the Prahlada story.
Me: I am familiar with The Facts of Life and can prove it:
A group of girls attending a boarding school experience the joys and
the trials of adolescence under the guiding
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Bob
Your response, is, of course, ignorant and ignorant of the facts of
life and of the facts of the Prahlada story.
Me: I am familiar with The Facts of Life and can prove it:
A group of girls
On Jan 16, 2007, at 1:55 PM, sparaig wrote:
H... How's that explanation of Jewish belief in reincarnation
coming?
Sha'ar ha Gilgulim is rather interesting and would be a great topic!
H... How's that explanation of Jewish belief in reincarnation
coming?
Jonah and the Whale is a spot-on description of reincarnation - not
that there's anything wrong with that
On Jan 16, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Larry wrote:
H... How's that explanation of Jewish belief in reincarnation
coming?
Jonah and the Whale is a spot-on description of reincarnation - not
that there's anything wrong with that
Well and of course the Sermon on the Mt. in the NT.
Bob: It's important to understand that anybody who had an abusive father
or mother got that unfortunate circumstance because that was the
karma one sent out in previous lives returning to oneself.
Me: Which one of your virtue sidhis were you expressing here? Let's
see, not compassion or
I really appreciate these posts. My dad was an alcoholic too. He never
abused any of us sexually, but he did so verbally and emotionally for many
years. Drove my mother to the mental hospital. I think the stress of WWII
drove him to drink. He was traumatized by it all his life. Dwelling on his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really appreciate these posts. My dad was an alcoholic too.
He never abused any of us sexually, but he did so verbally and
emotionally for many years. Drove my mother to the mental hospital.
I think the stress of
On Jan 15, 2007, at 10:44 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Me: Which one of your virtue sidhis were you expressing here? Let's
see, not compassion or friendliness...Oh I know smug happiness that
you understand how the world works so well that you need to tell
people that they deserved their
Or maybe almost an automatic response to something Bob really doesn't
understand and doesn't want to acknowledge...who knows why. Or maybe
he understands it all too well and just wants to bury the anger instead
of dealing with it in a responsible way. I don't see how people who
mindlessly
Thanks Sal, I figured that you would understand. On re-reading what I
wrote, I was wondering why I sound like a bit of a pompous dick.
(Immediately rejecting the option that this is what I actually am!) I
realized that this issue has a lot of charge for me. Of all the
mistaken opinions I gained
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or maybe almost an automatic response to something Bob really doesn't
understand and doesn't want to acknowledge...who knows why. Or maybe
he understands it all too well and just wants to bury the anger
instead
of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I realized that this issue has a lot of charge for me. Of all the
mistaken opinions I gained in my association with MMY, I consider my
belief in so called Karma to be the worst of the lot. As I said,
it is one
Turq,
This is a deep topic and let me start my saying that I don't have a
clue concerning such deep questions as freedom vs determinism. I
definitely don't take your sharing your view of this as an attempt to
convince me. I appreciate your making that explicit. I think we can
both be advocates
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Turq,
This is a deep topic and let me start my saying that I don't have a
clue concerning such deep questions as freedom vs determinism. I
definitely don't take your sharing your view of this as an attempt
to
On Jan 15, 2007, at 12:18 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Thanks Sal, I figured that you would understand. On re-reading what I
wrote, I was wondering why I sound like a bit of a pompous dick.
(Immediately rejecting the option that this is what I actually am!)
Well, whether you are or not, the
Exactly. The whole notion becomes amongst other things simply a way to
create and maintain various revenge fantasies--either one's own or
somebody else's. If everyone is getting what they supposedly deserve,
there's never any impetus to deal with personal issues responsibly,
move on, or do
On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
If I was able to look beyond my own issues with this topic I might
have more generously thought that this mental re-frame technique
worked so well in Bob's life that he wanted to share the insight to
help. If this is the case then my initial
Well pull up a chair Sal, Turq and I (having solved the big questions
of the universe) are about to pound a few and sing until the bouncer
delivers our karma and kicks us out!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Jan 15, 2007, at 12:18 PM,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exactly. The whole notion becomes amongst other things simply a way
to create and maintain various revenge fantasies--either one's own or
somebody else's. If everyone is getting what they supposedly deserve,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well pull up a chair Sal, Turq and I (having solved the
big questions of the universe) are about to pound a few
and sing until the bouncer delivers our karma and kicks
us out!
Or, if we exercise our free will
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Someone
who believed in a (IMO) false reading of karma as
determinism would never even *try* to come up with
technologies to ease the suffering of those born
with birth defects; they'd think somehow that the
kids
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exactly. The whole notion becomes amongst other things simply a way
to
create and maintain various revenge fantasies--either one's own or
somebody else's. If everyone is getting what they supposedly deserve,
On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Vaj wrote:
Oh come on Sal, wouldn't you have loved your parents, as your first
gurus, to arrange your marriage partner for you! Mother knows best!
:-)
(heaven forbid if you were gay)
I don't really have many problems with that particular tradition.
It's
Instant karmas gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon youre gonna be dead
What in the world you thinking of
Laughing in the face of love
What on earth you tryin to do
Its up to you, yeah you
Instant karmas gonna get you
Gonna look you right in
On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:27 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
Well pull up a chair Sal, Turq and I (having solved the big questions
of the universe) are about to pound a few and sing until the bouncer
delivers our karma and kicks us out!
And then he'll get *his* karma back for being mean to you...and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Vaj wrote:
Oh come on Sal, wouldn't you have loved your parents,
as your first gurus, to arrange your marriage partner
for you! Mother knows best!
:-)
(heaven forbid if you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exactly. The whole notion becomes amongst other things simply a way
to create and maintain various revenge fantasies--either one's own or
somebody else's. If everyone is getting what they supposedly deserve,
there's
they really need and plenty more of what they just want :)
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From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dad the Alcoholic
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie msilver1951@
wrote:
My dad was an alcoholic. Naturally, I didn't realize this as a
young
kid growing up but I knew he was different from other fathers. It
was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob: It's important to understand that anybody who had an abusive
father
or mother got that unfortunate circumstance because that was the
karma one sent out in previous lives returning to oneself.
Me:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Vaj wrote:
Oh come on Sal, wouldn't you have loved your parents, as your first
gurus, to arrange your marriage partner for you! Mother knows best!
:-)
(heaven forbid if you
Story 1:
My dad was an alcoholic.
Story 2:
My dad was an alcoholic who sexually abused me from the time I was
around 4 or 5 until my early teens...
I find these stories fascinating. To be thrown knuckle balls like
these, and be able to work through
Well said, Curtis.
--- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Bob: It's important to understand that anybody who
had an abusive father
or mother got that unfortunate circumstance
because that was the
karma one sent out in previous lives returning to
oneself.
Me: Which one of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My dad was an alcoholic. Naturally, I didn't realize this as a
young
kid growing up but I knew he was different from other fathers. It
was
about the age of 12 that I began to associate the bottle of liquor
he
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