[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-05-12 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > David's publishing record has taken a kind of downward turn > > of late. Last article I heard of was in a pseudoscience/ > > paranormal/UFO journal IIRC. > > In fact, what O-J

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-05-11 Thread WillyTex
Vaj: > Here's a good article on TM research you may have > missed, by award-winning writer Andrew Skolnick: > Is this the same Andrew Skolnick that got fired from one of the scientific research journals recently for publishing untruths and getting sued by Deepak Chopra? So, a 'lucid dream' is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:33 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > Ahem. If this were true, wouldn't YOU be using > > your "epistemic hubris" to claim that something > > *you know nothing about* is *not* a scam? > > Ignorance and deception will always find

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > You are trying to make a case that you can make a low > > > level vetting decision and I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-29 Thread Vaj
On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:33 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Ahem. If this were true, wouldn't YOU be using your "epistemic hubris" to claim that something *you know nothing about* is *not* a scam? Ignorance and deception will always find a breeding ground in hidden areas of science. Nowhere are such fa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > You are trying to make a case that you can make a low > > level vetting decision and I am not buying it. > > Yes, I know. You're using your "epistemic humilit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: [Curtis wrote:] > > > > I am so impressed with your credentials in this field. > > > > You are just another person who mistakes intelligence > > > > for training. Very

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > If these allegedly advanced TMers aren't also lucid dreaming, it > doesn't sound like they've actually developed a real witness- > consciousness. Vaj might want to read a paper by Gackenbach, a leading lucidity researcher (cited frequently in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-28 Thread WillyTex
> > You are trying to make a case that you can make a low > > level vetting decision and I am not buying it. So we > > are just arguing about where your lack of knowledge > > comes to play here. > > Vaj: > One thing you can count on David O-J for is a good > chuckle. As usual: he delivers...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-28 Thread Vaj
On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:23 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > See above where I said "make shit up and try to stuff it > in my mouth"? > > Where exactly did I tout, or even hint at, my "credentials" > or "training" in this field? Nowhere. You are trying to make a case that you can make a low level

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > Judy:> And now we've reached the point in the exchange where > > > Curtis realizes he has no legitimate ammunition, so > > > he starts to make shit up and try

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > Judy:> And now we've reached the point in the exchange where > > Curtis realizes he has no legitimate ammunition, so > > he starts to make shit up and try to stuff it in my > > mouth, his standard tactic when up against the wall.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
Judy:> And now we've reached the point in the exchange where > Curtis realizes he has no legitimate ammunition, so > he starts to make shit up and try to stuff it in my > mouth, his standard tactic when up against the wall. > Such integrity. > > (Doesn't it ever occur to him that the shit is going

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > David's publishing record has taken a kind of downward turn > of late. Last article I heard of was in a pseudoscience/ > paranormal/UFO journal IIRC. In fact, what O-J published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration was not a "study" but a re

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-26 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2010, at 11:17 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > What say the doubters, quitters and poor in spiritual experience here to> this? > > Is this research no good too? Just wondering. First of all what part of spirituality support

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > I don't share your confidence in my ability to evaluate > > > the professional creden

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > I have no way to evaluate the two German editor's > > > > background > > > > > > Yes, yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > I have no way to evaluate the two German editor's > > > background > > > > Yes, you do. You could look them up on the Web, as I did. > > . . . > > Schredl head

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > Just because it shares some of the protocols with respected > > > online journals doesn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > I don't share your confidence in my ability to evaluate > > the professional credentials of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > Just because it shares some of the protocols with respected > > online journals doesn't mean it is more than a dumping > > ground for shitty research. P.S.: There

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > > > > > The In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > I don't share your confidence in my ability to evaluate > the professional credentials of a foreign academic in a > specialized field of technical research. The contex

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > The International Journal of Dream Research > > > is a Website that has been operating for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > What say the doubters, quitters and poor in spiritual > > > experience here to this? > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > The International Journal of Dream Research > > is a Website that has been operating for 3 years who lets > > members "publish" research. Meant to add: The term

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > What say the doubters, quitters and poor in spiritual > > experience here to this? > > > > Is this research no good too? Just wondering. > > First of all what part

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > What say the doubters, quitters and poor in spiritual experience here to> > this? > > Is this research no good too? Just wondering. First of all what part of spirituality supports putting down people who don't see things your way? T

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically

2010-04-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > What say the doubters, quitters and poor in spiritual experience > here to this? What say they TO WHOM? Possibly to insufferably elitist assholes who consider themselves better than those who moved on past the spiritual kindergarten they