Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:13 PM, grate. swan no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Yes but if you really really feel it in your gut, its true. That's how I roll. And if God talks to you, its slam dunk true. I'm sorry. I was looking over another planet. Did you summon me? Incidently, quite a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amritasyaputra amritasyapu...@... wrote: No, it is not religious. As far as I can tell, the bottom line of this Is TM a religion argument is that people are just continuing to think WHAT THEY WERE TOLD TO THINK. If Maharishi had followed some of his early

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

     Hari Om Barry.  You just can't club TM and scientiology to gether.    TM is a scientific technique.    Scientiology is just mumbo jumbo cult.    Click below the see Barry's religion.    http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XFMCgeI7c   --- TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_sp...@... wrote:  Hari Om Barry.  You just can't club TM and scientiology to gether. TM is a scientific technique.  Scientiology is just mumbo jumbo cult. Click below the see Barry's religion.  http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XFMCgeI7c

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: The word 'puja' either means 'preparing for purifying', or 'the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

On Jan 27, 2009, at 8:22 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: The word 'puja' either

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amritasyaputra amritasyapu...@... wrote: You say Veda is more than religion, it is everything. Well, to me, that is a religious concept. So the so-called Theory of Everything in Physics is a religious theory, hmm? This is the heart of the disconnect

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

Mistaking the intensity of belief for its epistemological justification is one of the most important traps to avoid in sorting out the natural human bias for believing that our POV doesn't need any more supporting evidence than its enthusiastic assertion. ** Curtis, this quote (above), not to

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Mistaking the intensity of belief for its epistemological justification is one of the most important traps to avoid in sorting out the natural human bias for believing that our POV doesn't need any more supporting

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote (quoting Curtis): Mistaking the intensity of belief for its epistemological justification is one of the most important traps to avoid in sorting out the natural human bias for believing that our POV doesn't need any

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Mistaking the intensity of belief for its epistemological justification is one of the most important traps to avoid in sorting out the natural human bias for believing that our POV doesn't need any more supporting

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 25, 2009, at 7:36 PM, geezerfreak wrote: Very enlightened thinking here...demonize and minimize those whose opinions differ from yours. Not to mention another huge non sequitur. Nothing to contribute to the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

On Jan 25, 2009, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: The word 'puja' either means 'preparing for purifying', or 'the birth (begining) of the purifying life' . That is its ACTUAL meaning. You might want to at least look at a Sanskrit dictionary next time OffWorld. Just because the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

On Jan 25, 2009, at 11:49 PM, geezerfreak wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: monkeys aren't demons-- they're cute, lovable, furry monkeys, chattering away to their heart's content. chatter, chatter, chatter go the monkeys, about anything and

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

another monkey king! what are you -sure- of about me, mr. B? anything? you have guessed at many elements of my life, and persist in making up stories which run contrary to my stated experience. chatter, chatter, chatter goes the monkey king, hoping to find a tree to remain in. cute restless

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: The word 'puja' either means 'preparing for purifying', or 'the birth (begining) of the purifying life' . That is its ACTUAL meaning. OffWorld Sorry Off, but I think that's a bit like claiming, for instance,

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 25, 2009, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: The word 'puja' either means 'preparing for purifying', or 'the birth (begining) of the purifying life' . That is its ACTUAL meaning. You might want to at least

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: The word 'puja' either means 'preparing for purifying', or 'the birth (begining) of the purifying life' . That is its ACTUAL meaning.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: monkeys aren't demons-- they're cute, lovable, furry monkeys, chattering away to their heart's content. chatter, chatter, chatter go the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:00 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 25, 2009, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote: The word 'puja' either means 'preparing for purifying', or 'the birth (begining) of the purifying life' . That is its

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

A useful online Sanskrit dictionary resource is at:- http://spokensanskrit.de/ For the word 'puja' or 'puujaa' the following link is preset:- http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php? script=HKtinput=puujaacountry_ID=trans=Translatedirection=AU --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

No, it is not religious. Veneration of a person or a Master is not a religious activity. Unless, of course, you consider veneration of Hollywood stars as religious. Moreover, TM cannot be a religion if Christianity is considered to be one!!! Although there might be some similarities, their

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:00 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jan 25, 2009, at 10:40 PM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: [...] To say that the word `puja' means `worship' is like saying: Avatar means a person's cartoon version on the internet. On behalf of my avatar, I'd like to express my feelings of dismay. Saijanai Kuhn

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: [...] To say that the word `puja' means `worship' is like saying: Avatar means a person's cartoon version on the internet. On behalf of my

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

---Category errors - below. TM is obviously not to be compared to Hollywood starts (apples and bananas). By TM clarify - such as TM in context of the puja and body of knowledge that goes along with it since TM just by itself is obviously not a religion. Not many people are saying it is. (since

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

On Jan 26, 2009, at 8:41 PM, amritasyaputra wrote: No, it is not religious. Veneration of a person or a Master is not a religious activity. religion |riˈlijən| noun the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or god Unless, of course, you consider

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

On Jan 26, 2009, at 8:50 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:00 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jan 25, 2009, at 10:40 PM, off_world_beings

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: [...] To say that the word `puja' means `worship' is like saying: Avatar means a person's cartoon version on the internet. On behalf of my

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

Thanks, that's what I am saying too: TM just by itself is obviously not a religion THerefore, we can close that boring discussion. Just practise it and don't bother about all those theories. And Veda, too, is not a religion. Maybe Hinduism is but Veda is not. Veda is Sanatan Dharm, the eternal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

I agree, speaking in modernese was surely his intent, as once the vijanamaya kosa is more developed than or excelled to dominate the lower kosas, only escalated levels of universality, love and scientific processes remain prominent though every thought, word and deed. This and the fact that he

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amritasyaputra amritasyapu...@... wrote: Thanks, that's what I am saying too: TM just by itself is obviously not a religion THerefore, we can close that boring discussion. Just practise it and don't bother about all those theories. Well, I worry my

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 26, 2009, at 8:50 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:00 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

thank you for your contribution, shaas. always a pleasure to hear from someone with a sound mind. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amritasyaputra amritasyapu...@... wrote: Thanks, that's what I am saying too: TM just by itself is obviously not a religion THerefore, we can close

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: [...] To say that the word `puja' means `worship' is like saying:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

You say Veda is more than religion, it is everything. Well, to me, that is a religious concept. So the so-called Theory of Everything in Physics is a religious theory, hmm? Well, continue to worry your pretty little head... You and your fiends here seem to see religion everywhere! Actually,

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: monkeys aren't demons-- they're cute, lovable, furry monkeys, chattering away to their heart's content. chatter, chatter, chatter go the monkeys, about anything and everything, whether they know what they are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

First, we have to feed all you fucking monkeys some bananas, let you finish fucking, and then we'll get down to which of you is enlightened or not. Vaj will read each of you a Zen koan. You must immediately write the answer with your shit. Off world we see if the results appear in a