[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-09 Thread turquoiseb
Since JohnR seems so...so...well...proud of Moses and his status as the divinely-inspired author of the first five books of the Bible, perhaps he'll enjoy this story about what modern Christianity has made of two of the author's most-quoted phrases in Leviticus about homosexuals. If JohnR is proud

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip Just as a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-09 Thread John
Barry, This post is a non sequitur to the issues we've been discussing. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Since JohnR seems so...so...well...proud of Moses and his status as the divinely-inspired author of the first five books of the Bible, perhaps

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-09 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-09 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Barry, This post is a non sequitur to the issues we've been discussing. No, John...it really isn't. The fact that you don't get that is why it isn't really a discussion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-09 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Barry, This post is a non sequitur to the issues we've been discussing. No, John...it really isn't. Yes, Barry...it really is. The fact that you don't get

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: If Barry is or was a Buddhist, he really doesn't have to truck with that particular concept. Noone ask him to. But he calls people

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: It's the getting one's buttons pushed when someone points out *the obvious* that is irrational. Why spend so much time writing sooo many words when

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: It's the getting one's buttons pushed when someone points out *the obvious* that is irrational. Why spend so much time writing sooo many words when

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: It's the getting one's buttons pushed when someone points out *the obvious*

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: This is Spinoza's God, identical with Nature. This god does not correspond at all with the conception of the god in Genesis. That idea got Spinoza kicked out of his synagogue. In the beginning Man (ADM)

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread John
Barry, My comments are as follows: 1. But Thomas Merton stated in one of his books that the pride of Adam and Eve was the first mistake that they committed in the Garden of Eden. Pride means that they believed they were gods and knew something that Yahweh did not know. I'm replying

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Barry, My comments are as follows: I have none in reply. Your sense of surety and your willingness to believe what others tell you astound me. I wish you well with them. Just as a farewell question, however, could you cite for me

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Barry, My comments are as follows: I have none in reply. Your sense of surety and your willingness to believe what others tell you astound me. I wish you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Barry, My comments are as follows: I have none in reply. Your sense of surety

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Barry, My comments are as follows: snip - after Barry's comment I have none in reply. Your sense of surety and your willingness to believe what others tell you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-08 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Barry, My

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: You should

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread John
Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 7:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Barry, You appear to be committing the same mistake Adam made in the Garden of Eden. That is,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Bingo. And this is where all religions fail; they give you pretty words but no direct experience of Godhead. I have full sympathy with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Bingo. And this is where all religions fail; they give you pretty words

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Barry, You appear to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Adam and Eve, thinking for themselves, decided the Serpent was more authoritative than God and followed his suggestion to take fruit from the one tree God had forbidden them. Thinking for themselves seems to be an

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: I also find it mindblowing that some souls insists on exposing their ignorance of Nature and claiming others to be delusional. Again and again. Strange, isn't it ? Perhaps, but this is an ad hominem argument, not

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
Adam and Eve, thinking for themselves, decided the Serpent was more authoritative than God and followed his suggestion to take fruit from the one tree God had forbidden them. Xenophaneros: I think in the misogynist world of patriarchal societies, the usual interpretation is Eve

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread Emily Reyn
That joke was very funny.  And, see, I thought sothe energy field is feminine.   From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 10:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread Emily Reyn
: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: I also find it mindblowing that some souls insists on exposing their ignorance of Nature and claiming others to be delusional.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Adam and Eve, thinking for themselves, decided the Serpent was more authoritative than God and followed his suggestion to take fruit

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip I know you didn't say it, but I'd be willing to bet that both BillyG and Feste believe

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: I also find it mindblowing that some souls insists on

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Adam and Eve, thinking for themselves, decided the Serpent was

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-07 Thread authfriend
Give it up, Xeno. My point was clear to start with, and you aren't adding anything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread John
You should consider that gospel as fiction and for entertainment use only. There's a reason why the Christian Church excluded this writing from the official church canon. More likely, the source of that writing is questionable. You should do more research on this matter to satisfy your own

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: You should consider that gospel as fiction and for entertainment use only. Finally, someone who agrees with me. The only difference between JohnR and myself is that I extend his advice to ALL scripture, no matter what its supposed

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shainm307 shainm307@... wrote: Hello, I recently watched the Gospel of Judas on Netflix (you can also look at it online). The 3rd-4th century text was apparently found a few years back and about 85% of it is still readable. I personally found it to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip stories claiming to have witnessed him performing an actual miracle or demonstrating a siddhi. It's not needed. Around the time of Jesus the people needed those kind of proofs to strenghten their faith. Even the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip ...stories claiming to have witnessed him performing an actual miracle or demonstrating a siddhi. It's not needed. Around the time of Jesus

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: You should consider that gospel as fiction and for entertainment use only. There's a reason why the Christian Church excluded this writing from the official church canon. More likely, the source of that writing is questionable.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: You should consider that gospel as fiction and for entertainment use only. Finally, someone who agrees with me. The only difference between JohnR and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: You should consider that gospel as fiction and for entertainment use only. Finally,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: You should consider that gospel as fiction and for entertainment use only. Finally, someone who

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: You should consider that gospel as fiction and for entertainment use only.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread Emily Reyn
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 7:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread shainm307
Does anyone know why Judas was the only one to know what Jesus was talking about? One day he was with his disciples in Judea, and he found them gathered together and seated in pious observance. When he [approached] his disciples, [34] gathered together and seated and offering a prayer of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: We do not know what was not written down. For example, if we took all the material that is publicly available in the TMO, would we be able to make out what 'transcendental meditation' is? We would know

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-06 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: You should

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gospel of Judas

2012-05-05 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shainm307 shainm307@... wrote: Hello, I recently watched the Gospel of Judas on Netflix(you can also look at it online). The 3rd-4th century text was apparently found a few years back and about 85% of it is still readable. I personally found it to be one