: [FairfieldLife] Re: What happens when you don't practice the yamas/
niyamas.
You would make a good hell-fire and brimestone preacher. The sentiment
appears the same -- you just need to amp up the imagery and vocabulary
a bit.
Can I use islamic scripture? or hebrew scripture? Or do I have
To use only one sutra as an example (this translation by Barbara
Stoler Miller):
Aversion to one's body and avoidance of contact
with others comes from bodily purification. (40)
Also purity of intelligence, mental satisfaction, psychic
focus, victory over the sense organs, and a vision of one's
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To use only one sutra as an example (this translation by Barbara
Stoler Miller):
Aversion to one's body and avoidance of contact
with others comes from bodily purification. (40)
Also purity of intelligence, mental
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To use only one sutra as an example (this translation by Barbara
Stoler Miller):
Aversion to one's body and avoidance of contact
with
The standard TM dogma, which I still find to be a very useful set of
concepts, (and not all that unlike, say, the Kabbalah's Sefirot) would
say that the path you are suggesting is the one that Indra et al took.
There is no end to the subtleties of pleasure -- ritam is infinitely
deep. Ask
Hi BillyG.:
To me, the ideas of perfection discussed in the sutras are themselves
products of the ego, intertwined with ego, not free of it, and borne
of wanting to avoid pain. Patanjali also says that one can reach the
powers of perfection that arise from pure contemplation through the
use of
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and then only to use the body as
it pleases God.
Billy, are you making a case here for
masturbation as a spiritual path?
I mean, if one realizes Self, and has
achieved unity with God, then isn't
masturbation
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My dear Sir-To please God in this case would be to use the sex
function for the procreation of children
This sort of self-assurance was a major implicit theme of my prior
post on this topic. Do you really feel that you know
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Christ, did he not say, Go and sin no more?
You know this to be absolutely true? That Christ said these exact
words with the exact mean that you impute? And btw, that Christ was a
living, breathing being just as he was
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My dear Sir-To please God in this case would be to use the sex
function for the procreation of children
This sort of self-assurance was a major implicit
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Christ, did he not say, Go and sin no more?
You know this to be absolutely true?
FWIW, the story of the woman taken in adultery
(from which the quote
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You have two standards;
What do you mean me, kimosobe?
one is scripture and the other is intuition or
direct knowing. With scripture we fall back on tradition and oral
teachings by reputed Masters, etc.
With
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Christ, did he not say, Go and sin no more?
You know this to be absolutely
My favorite part of the story is when Jesus tells the
men who were about to stone the woman to death, He
that is without sin among you, let him first cast
a stone at her.
And one by one, they all put down the stones they're
holding and walk away--the oldest first.
The way I heard it, a
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Christ,
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Christ, did he not say, Go and sin no more?
You know this to be absolutely
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Christ, did
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Good example. Of a teaching some take as verbatim gospel.
Which has, however, dubious origins, sanctity. And certainly a
limited context.
Oh,
I mean, if one realizes Self, and has
achieved unity with God, then isn't
masturbation pretty much the ultimate
form of using the body as it pleases
God?
:-)
And remember, if he didn't want us doing that, he wouldn't have made
our arms so long!
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Good example. Of a teaching some take as verbatim gospel.
Which has, however,
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The issue is not gee should I sin or not, it is what is sin and
who defines it? You seem happy to define it for all of us. I don't
see you has having
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Ultimately, you decide whether or not your behavior is sinful. If you
forgo Scripture (the best external source) then you fall back
completely on conscience and intuition and nobody knows you better
than yourself.
The
Thank you for posting this because it has helped crystallize some
insights. Even though we may be ending up at quite opposite, or at
least distance, shores from on another.
Four points that crystallized:
1) All yamas and niyams, codes of conduct, commandments, ethics, etc,
are based on, oriented
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Thank you for posting this because it has helped crystallize some
insights. Even though we may be ending up at quite opposite, or at
least distance, shores from on another.
Four points that crystallized:
1) All
I appreciate this awareness of context, translation, etc. and I agree
that so much depends on context, and the times. Trying to be good
means exactly what in what context? Not making noise when your Dad is
asleep? Can being good mean flying an airplane into a building for
God? To some people, yes.
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...the gift of the Guru remains as a seed locked away in a steel
vault where it cannot sprout and grow to fruition. Kirpal Singh
Did not Christ Jesus say, Go, and sin no more? So it is with TM, the
sadhana alone is
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Thank you for posting this because it has helped crystallize some
insights. Even though we may be ending up at quite opposite, or at
least distance,
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...the gift of the Guru remains as a seed locked away in a steel
vault where it cannot sprout and grow to fruition. Kirpal Singh
Did not Christ Jesus
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I appreciate this awareness of context, translation, etc. and I agree
that so much depends on context, and the times. Trying to be good
means exactly what in what context? Not making noise when your Dad is
asleep? Can
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however, Christ Jesus also
said:
For by *grace* are ye saved through faith (in following scriptural
truth); and that, not of yourselves; not of works, lest
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...the gift of the Guru remains as a seed locked away in a steel
vault where it cannot
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however, Christ Jesus also
said:
For by *grace* are ye saved through faith (in following
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however, Christ Jesus
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