On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:01 AM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So where the #$%^*( is KDE4.1 ? And don't tell me its in testing !
I don't want to be a beta tester anymore.
The infrastructure issues have put a serious delay on all packages
that needed to be moved from updates-testing to
linuxguy wrote:
So where the #$%^*( is KDE4.1 ? And don't tell me its in testing !
If it makes you feel better, we had queue'd it for stable shortly before all
the security hubbub, and it's been blocking on getting that all sorted out
first.
tinfoil hat
It was a kde-hating hacker that did
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 09:41 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
linuxguy wrote:
So where the #$%^*( is KDE4.1 ? And don't tell me its in testing !
If it makes you feel better, we had queue'd it for stable shortly before all
the security hubbub, and it's been blocking on getting that all sorted out
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:23 AM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 09:41 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
linuxguy wrote:
So where the #$%^*( is KDE4.1 ? And don't tell me its in testing !
If it makes you feel better, we had queue'd it for stable shortly before all
the
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 10:57 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
This is what I did:
# yum --enablerepo=updates-testing groupinstall kde-desktop
Thanks
And then disable the repo ? Or are there fixing coming for KDE4.1 and I
need to keep it enabled ?
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On Tue September 2 2008 09:23:17 linuxguy wrote:
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 09:41 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
linuxguy wrote:
So where the #$%^*( is KDE4.1 ? And don't tell me its in testing !
If it makes you feel better, we had queue'd it for stable shortly before
all the security hubbub,
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 10:57 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
yum --enablerepo=updates-testing groupinstall kde-desktop
Its not finding KDE4.1 by the looks of it.
yum --enablerepo=updates-testing groupinstall kde-desktop
Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Group Process
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 17:02:58 linuxguy wrote:
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 10:57 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
This is what I did:
# yum --enablerepo=updates-testing groupinstall kde-desktop
Doing it in the yum command like that only enables it for that one occasion.
You don't need to
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 17:00 +0100, dexter wrote:
On Tue September 2 2008 09:23:17 linuxguy wrote:
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 09:41 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
linuxguy wrote:
So where the #$%^*( is KDE4.1 ? And don't tell me its in testing !
If it makes you feel better, we had queue'd it
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 17:00 +0100, dexter wrote:
On Tue September 2 2008 09:23:17 linuxguy wrote:
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 09:41 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
linuxguy wrote:
So where the #$%^*( is KDE4.1 ? And don't
Around 08:06pm on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 (UK time), Arthur Pemberton
scrawled:
Or: yum --enablerepo=updates-testing groupupdate KDE
I wish that option was listed in `yum -h`
It is:
([EMAIL PROTECTED]:~)$ yum -h | grep enab
--enablerepo=[repo] enable one or more repositories
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Steve Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Around 08:06pm on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 (UK time), Arthur Pemberton
scrawled:
Or: yum --enablerepo=updates-testing groupupdate KDE
I wish that option was listed in `yum -h`
It is:
([EMAIL PROTECTED]:~)$ yum -h
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:40 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Steve Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Around 08:06pm on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 (UK time), Arthur Pemberton
scrawled:
Or: yum --enablerepo=updates-testing groupupdate KDE
I wish that
Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan at gmail.com writes:
Or: yum --enablerepo=updates-testing groupupdate KDE
And that groupupdate will miss some packages which should also be updated. (I
know, I've done it myself. I had to use yum shell and manually update some
additional packages which weren't
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 22:34 +, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan at gmail.com writes:
Or: yum --enablerepo=updates-testing groupupdate KDE
And that groupupdate will miss some packages which should also be updated. (I
know, I've done it myself. I had to use yum shell
On Tuesday 19 August 2008 23:09:48 Ric Moore wrote:
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 20:02 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
you can get a root password on Kubuntu as well if you hate sudo :)
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/enable-and-disable-ubuntu-root-password.html
$ sudo passwd root
One of my
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Ric Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship.
It has.
I've
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 15:43 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed.
Say whatever you want about Fedora being bleeding
--- On Mon, 8/18/08, Ric Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ric Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II
To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 7:50 PM
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 15:43 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
Its now 2
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship.
It has.
I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes:
Don't worry, 4.1 is coming soon. But flaming us on the mailing lists
won't make it come any sooner! (Personally, it even makes me want to
intentionally delay it to make you suffer, I'm that kind of person. :-p
But luckily for you, I want to
Keep it up guys - I am one who does appreciate how things
move forward.
I second your comment :) It is becoming better, not yet at a comfort level,
still missing the Digital Clock from KDE 3.5.X, but it is working better and it
is coming around.
Of course anyone who really cannot wait
Keep it up guys - I am one who does appreciate how
things
move forward.
I second your comment :) It is becoming better, not yet at
a comfort level, still missing the Digital Clock from KDE
3.5.X, but it is working better and it is coming around.
I better clarify the comfort level part.
Mike wrote:
Of course anyone who really cannot wait for KDE4.1+ can always opt to pay
for MS products if they think that is a better option!
Or Apple, where there is at least some indication of an effort to make
sure all the parts work together before shipping. And it will run
pretty much
On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 05:22 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 14:30 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 16:38 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed
a huge lapse
On Saturday 16 August 2008 18:19:22 Mike wrote:
I was aware of the time needed before KDE4 became fully functional - and in
the meantime I am using Gnome but testing KDE in F9 in a matter of
weeks the KDE4 system will be very functional, and will be further
developed and fine tuned.
:-)
On Saturday 16 August 2008 18:25:48 Antonio Olivares wrote:
I second your comment :) It is becoming better, not yet at a comfort
level, still missing the Digital Clock from KDE 3.5.X, but it is working
better and it is coming around.
I doubt if it is the same, but I'm pretty sure someone has
On Saturday 16 August 2008 18:31:25 Antonio Olivares wrote:
Keep it up guys - I am one who does appreciate how
things
move forward.
I second your comment :) It is becoming better, not yet at
a comfort level, still missing the Digital Clock from KDE
3.5.X, but it is working
--- On Sat, 8/16/08, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 11:53 AM
On Saturday 16 August 2008 18:25
Antonio Olivares wrote:
Keep it up guys - I am one who does appreciate how things
move forward.
I second your comment :) It is becoming better, not yet at a comfort level, still missing the Digital Clock from KDE 3.5.X, but it is working better and it is coming around.
Of course anyone who
Max:
Cracked versions can include software you wouldn't want
running on your network.
And never mind just plain broken software...
Antonio Olivares:
What software is that?
Trojans, viruses, and whatnot? You don't seriously expect us to believe
that you weren't aware of that possibility?
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 14:30 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 16:38 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed
a huge lapse in judgment.
How so? I think they underestimated
linuxguy wrote:
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 14:30 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
If the price of 10% adoption rate is exponential increase in the number
of bitch-and-moan-while-doing-nothing-to-help like the OP, I'll take 1%
market share any time, any date. (But that's me...)
do nothing to help
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:22 AM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 14:30 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 16:38 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed
a
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
If the price of 10% adoption rate is exponential increase in the number
of bitch-and-moan-while-doing-nothing-to-help like the OP, I'll take 1%
market share any time, any date. (But that's me...)
do nothing to help people are the majority of computer users.
I am
Arthur Pemberton pemboa at gmail.com writes:
How so? I think they underestimated how many freeloaders would bitch
about not having what they want when they want it.
Can any core member of the KDE SIG confirm/deny regret?
No regrets here, we knew we had to upgrade to KDE 4 sooner or later, so
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Arthur Pemberton pemboa at gmail.com writes:
How so? I think they underestimated how many freeloaders would bitch
about not having what they want when they want it.
Can any core member of the KDE SIG confirm/deny regret?
On Thursday 14 August 2008 00:18, Francis Earl wrote:
Still upset about being stuck with KDE4.0,
LG
It's in Fedora updates-testing.
and has been for at least 2 weeks. You have the choice of using that or
waiting until Rex can get it into the main repo including some bugfixes that
have
On Thursday 14 August 2008 00:41, Antonio Olivares wrote:
I am actually surprised that it has not made its way over here, but it
should soon :)
It is, of course, Akademy week, and many people involved with KDE have been
somewhat short of time recently.
Anne
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2008/8/13 linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The fact that you refer to common Linux users like myself as
freeloaders who bitch demonstrates a big part of this and other
problems within the Linux community.
You are behaving like one.
Keep it up. Linux adoption will stay at 1% for another 10
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 16:38 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed
a huge lapse in judgment.
How so? I think they underestimated how many freeloaders would bitch
about not having what they
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed.
Say whatever you want about Fedora being bleeding edge, etc, but this is
by far the worst release Fedora and
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 15:43 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed.
Say whatever you want about Fedora being bleeding
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed.
Say whatever you want about Fedora
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 15:43 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship.
It did ship at the end of July. You seem to be confusing the KDE release
date with the Fedora release date.
I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:28 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship.
It has.
I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed.
Sucks for you.
Say whatever
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:28 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:28 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were
told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half
working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed.
Say whatever you want about Fedora being bleeding
edge, etc, but this is
by far the worst
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 22:43:58 linuxguy wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed.
snip
You can get it from updates-testing, then you
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:28 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed
a huge lapse in judgment.
How so? I think they underestimated how many freeloaders would bitch
about not having what they want when they want it.
The fact that you refer to
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 03:43:58PM -0600, linuxguy wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed.
Say whatever you want about Fedora being
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:38 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed
a huge lapse in judgment.
How so? I think they underestimated how many freeloaders would bitch
about not having
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 18:43:58 linuxguy wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1
would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed.
Say whatever you want about Fedora being bleeding
linuxguy wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed.
Actually, we pushed the big red button push to stable a few days ago at
akademy, and
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 19:42 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
linuxguy wrote:
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would
ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface
for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed.
Actually, we pushed the big
Craig White wrote:
Anyway...I assume you got one of the free N810's and I am jealous (the
kind of thing I would love to have but am too cheap to purchase myself)
I wish, sadly no, not so fortunate as having one of those in my hands. :)
-- Rex
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On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 20:04 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
Craig White wrote:
Anyway...I assume you got one of the free N810's and I am jealous (the
kind of thing I would love to have but am too cheap to purchase myself)
I wish, sadly no, not so fortunate as having one of those in my hands. :)
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:36 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
I'd suggest you read the ML guidelines [2] before posting.
- Gilboa
[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message..
Is anybody already enabled to edit that page? That link
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 17:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
linuxguy wrote:
So... its August 7th today and no KDE4.1 stable for F9. How about an
update ?
We've got a last batch of pkg updates that have been pending for a few days
now (probably stalled due to recent F-10-alpha release).
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 17:32 +0930, Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:36 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
I'd suggest you read the ML guidelines [2] before posting.
- Gilboa
[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message..
Is anybody
Gilboa:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message..
Tim:
Is anybody already enabled to edit that page? That link requires the
trailing two dots to work, but many mailing clients stop parsing the URI
when the first dot is encountered (so
Gilboa Davara wrote:
Side question:
I've got a number of bugs reported against bugs.kde.org.
Do you want a duplicate bugzilla.redhat.com reports?
No strong need, but feel free to either CC: me on those, or let me know the bug
#'s, so we can track 'em.
-- Rex
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Tim wrote:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message..
Is anybody already enabled to edit that page? That link requires
the trailing two dots to work, but many mailing clients stop parsing
the URI when the first dot is encountered (so
So... its August 7th today and no KDE4.1 stable for F9. How about an
update ?
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 15:07 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
linuxguy wrote:
Why hasn't KDE4.1 hit the F9 stable repositories yet ? It was supposed
to be out at the end of July. Its been released for general
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:35 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So... its August 7th today and no KDE4.1 stable for F9. How about an
update ?
A. Please don't top post. [1]
B. Be -polite-. Being rude will only get you ignore, banned or both.
C. Members of the KDE-SIG (most of them
linuxguy wrote:
So... its August 7th today and no KDE4.1 stable for F9. How about an
update ?
We've got a last batch of pkg updates that have been pending for a few days now
(probably stalled due to recent F-10-alpha release). Once those get out, and
no showstoppers appear... then we
I have tried it ,its pretty much ok,except a few bugs...Impatient people
like me (sure there maybe others) should not be overlooked by Fedora
Packaging
2008/8/2 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Friday 01 August 2008 19:47:19 linuxguy wrote:
Why hasn't KDE4.1 hit the F9 stable repositories
On Saturday 02 August 2008 09:30:57 abhishek rane wrote:
I have tried it ,its pretty much ok,except a few bugs...Impatient people
like me (sure there maybe others) should not be overlooked by Fedora
Packaging
When a farmer harvests the peas they are not immediately on the supermarket
Why hasn't KDE4.1 hit the F9 stable repositories yet ? It was supposed
to be out at the end of July. Its been released for general download
and other distributions have it.
Why hasn't Fedora released it ?
Thanks
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linuxguy wrote:
Why hasn't KDE4.1 hit the F9 stable repositories yet ? It was supposed
to be out at the end of July. Its been released for general download
and other distributions have it.
Why hasn't Fedora released it ?
It *is* released, but only to updates-testing at the moment. Good
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 15:07 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
linuxguy wrote:
Why hasn't KDE4.1 hit the F9 stable repositories yet ? It was supposed
to be out at the end of July. Its been released for general download
and other distributions have it.
Why hasn't Fedora released it ?
It
linuxguy wrote:
Why hasn't KDE4.1 hit the F9 stable repositories yet ? It was supposed
to be out at the end of July. Its been released for general download
and other distributions have it.
Why hasn't Fedora released it ?
Thanks
What are you a Glutten for Punishment ?
After reading all
On Friday 01 August 2008 15:47:19 linuxguy wrote:
Why hasn't KDE4.1 hit the F9 stable repositories yet ? It was supposed
to be out at the end of July. Its been released for general download
and other distributions have it.
Why hasn't Fedora released it ?
Thanks
it's under
On Friday 01 August 2008 19:47:19 linuxguy wrote:
Why hasn't KDE4.1 hit the F9 stable repositories yet ? It was supposed
to be out at the end of July. Its been released for general download
and other distributions have it.
Why hasn't Fedora released it ?
Thanks
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