gh. I tried my best to find a way to help him get better but I have to
accept that there is nothing more I can do to help him become healthy again.
That is a difficult thing.
>From: Nina
>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Chris and
You have my condolences Chris... it is hard to lose them.
Phaewryn
Thank you for your thoughts Gina. Mylo was already at the stage where he
didn't move very much. Very sad.
From: Gina WN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:03:49 -0800 (PST
Again, I agree with your thoughts relating to these types of situations
From: TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:40:34 -0500
i will do fluids in a heartbeat for
I agree.
From: TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:52:30 -0500
GLOW for you and mylo.
sometimes doing all that is medically possible is NOT the correct
choice f
You made a kind and unselfish choice. My heart breaks for you.
elizabeth
On 1/31/07, Chris Ramzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That's the thing. I didn't want to wonder "what if" and I don't. That's
why
I saw different vets and an oncologist. All of them said the same thing.
The
oncologist bein
Thank you Diane.
From: "Diane Rosenfeldt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To:
Subject: RE: Chris and Mylo
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:06:03 -0600
Chris, I'm sorry that Mylo is so sick. My heart goes out to both of you as
you make these diffic
est as his fragile little body could not take
anymore.
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To:
Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:01:33 -0500
I understand. I chose to euthanise my Moogie when she was really
ve 4 more months if
> successful. I feel that would be putting him through more stress. He hangs
> on to me whenever we go to the vet. To hospitalize him again and put him
> back on meds (he hated that), would break my heart.
>
>
>
>
> >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
&g
No, animals don't FEAR the pain of dying (and don't fear dying, for that
matter),
because they live in the moment, so they are only fearful when actually in the
process of being scared (and they don't have a belief system that registers the
end
of life or moving to another cycle like we do, so th
I agree with Belinda... I REGRET not trying all of that for Moogie (I wasn't
here on the list long enough to learn enough before I opted to have Moogie
euthanised). I don't want anyone else to have second guesses years down the
road. I'm just thankful that I've stuck around here and learned about i
Agree with this, I talked with Buddie the day before her surgery and
told her if she was ready to go I would be OK, I would miss her physical
self but if shwas ready to go home then she should. She survived the
surgery but went into cardiac arrest after in recovery. It was her
choice ad she m
this is a hard one, because actually, i haven't used veterinary
intervention with any of my kids in many years. i HAVE with sanctuary
animals who were seizing, or clearly in great pain, and i wouldn't
hesitate to do so if one of mine were in that situation. but i agree
that letting them go through
i think, too, that i'm talking more about cats who accept treatment
quite well for a long time, and then suddenly say, "enough." i am a
huge believer in giving fluids, and will do so often at the first sign
of punkiness in a cat, and have seen them work wonders--often one
application of subq fluid
I used to think this too but since I've heard from many AC's that
animals don't fear the pain sometimes associated with dying in some
instances and many actually prefer to go through the whole cycle I am
really more of the thinking of letting them complete the cycle without
my intervention. No
PS. Fred told an AC he wasn't thrilled with the fluids, he didn't
understand the reason for it. He said he'd rather not get them but I
asked her to explain to him that they would help his kidney's function
better and keep him feeling good for some time. His values have
improved quite a bit a
i will do fluids in a heartbeat for a cat--until they make it clear
that they no longer want it. i remember being really upset with a
kitty who just would not let me administer fluids, because i KNEW it
would make her feel better--she was clearly terminal (at 22!), and it
was the holistic vet who
I agree sometimes you come to a point where you have to consider
letting them go but in my opinion and *my opinion only* assist feeding
and fluids are in NO way going too far. ANY cat that doesn't feel well
for whatever reason can and most likely will stop eating, and
dehydration makes a c
stress. He hangs
on to me whenever we go to the vet. To hospitalize him again and put him
back on meds (he hated that), would break my heart.
>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>To:
>Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
>Da
n. This is the
third time in the hospital for him. And today they will take his staples out
I will know more later today after I get off work
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Ramzy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:50 PM
Subject: Re:
Hi Chris,
Last year I learned to do subQ fluids after my kitty
Julie was diagnosed hyperT, and I've done it on two
other of my kitties who got sick since then. It's
pretty easy, although I was scared at first to learn,
because I didn't want to hurt my furbaby. Julie gets
200cc a week because of
Being dehydrated is like having a horrible hangover, of course your
going to look and feel crappy, not hydrating is only adding to his
discomfort. I can't believe the dr didn't insist on it. This little
inexpensive thing could really help him be more comfortable.
--
Belinda
happiness is bei
will not be beside me.
>From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>To:
>Subject: RE: Chris and Mylo
>Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:02:43 -0600
>
>I'm so very sorry to hear the diagnosis for Mylo. (I'm glad you ha
Chris, I'm sorry that Mylo is so sick. My heart goes out to both of you as
you make these difficult choices.
Diane R.
I understand. I chose to euthanise my Moogie when she was really sick too... I
didn't
opt for the transfusions either. Now, I always wonder.. "what if". I just wish I
would have joined this group a little sooner than I did. I think that's how a
lot of
us here feel.
Phaewryn
s
on to me whenever we go to the vet. To hospitalize him again and put him
back on meds (he hated that), would break my heart.
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To:
Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:22:54
Thank you.
From: "elizabeth trent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:50:24 -0600
My heart is with you.
elizabeth
On 1/29/07, Chris Ramzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
o move any other part of his
body.
What happened at the vet today?
From: "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To:
Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:31:57 -0700
I feel your pain..We have an appointment this afternoon fo
Thank you Wendy for your thoughts much appreciated
From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Chris and Mylo
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:23:28 -0800 (PST)
Chris,
I am so sorry about what you and Mylo are
de me.
From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To:
Subject: RE: Chris and Mylo
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:02:43 -0600
I'm so very sorry to hear the diagnosis for Mylo. (I'm glad you had an
understanding, nice, educated doc
Peace to both Mylo and you Chris, I will be sending peaceful thoughts of
passage and
happiness to Mylo!
Phaewryn
You are aware that you can assist/force feed, right, or even have a feeding tube
inserted? And that a combination Dex/Depo injection has given cats JUST as sick
as
Milo is now severa
You can do HOME fluids, it's easy! Here are some links with pictures (your vet
can
give you all the needed supplies):
http://www.felinecrf.com/managh.htm
http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_giving_set.htm
http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/clientED/cat_fluids.asp
http://www.fabcats.org/sq_fluid.html
So
rd crash he
has had in a month. Very lethargic and his tummy is having spasms. At
least
they will be out of misery..
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Ramzy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
> Mylo has n
kemia.org
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
>Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:04:00 -0800
>
>Chris,
>I too am so sorry to hear the news about Mylo. It's the hardest decision
>we have to make when we think their suffering warrants it. If we believe
>that t
they will be out of misery..
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Ramzy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
Mylo has not been eating the last couple of days. He is very lethargic. He
is very sick beyond
the
appt. at 5:30. I've struggled with this decision back and forth but I
believe this is the best thing for Mylo. :(
From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:04:00 -
PS. If Mylo isn't eating well he may very well not have cancer but
something called hepatic lipidosis, cats who don't eat enough or don't
eat for a few days, some as little as 2 days can develop this. It is
deadly serious and the ONLY thing that can save a cat with this is
food. The liver wo
Hi Chris,
*Can I ask what tests were run to diagnose this?* I know several
FeLV+ who are battling cancer and doing very well. One has been in
remission for 2 years. What kind of cancer, lymphoma is a broad term,
is it small cell, large cell??
My Buddie had small cell, liver cancer an
p him
> get better but I have to
> accept that there is nothing more I can do to help
> him become healthy again.
> That is a difficult thing.
>
>
>
> >From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >To: felvtalk@felineleu
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *elizabeth
trent
*Sent:* Sunday, January 28, 2007 10:11 PM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: Chris and Mylo
Oh Chris...this is so hard. I am so sorry the prognosis was not
better. You can let him know that you love him and comfort him. I
know
be bought online at competitive prices.
love and hugs to you and Mylo,
Kerry M
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth
trent
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 10:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Chris and Mylo
Oh Chr
n. That is a difficult thing.
From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Chris and Mylo
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:57:39 -0800
Hi Chris,
I've been thinking about you guys. What happened at the Internist today?
I hope no
ough. I tried my best to find a way to help him get better but I have
to
accept that there is nothing more I can do to help him become healthy
again.
That is a difficult thing.
>From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
ore I can do to help him become healthy again.
That is a difficult thing.
From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Chris and Mylo
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:57:39 -0800
Hi Chris,
I've been thinking about you guys. W
Hi Chris,
I've been thinking about you guys. What happened at the Internist
today? I hope no news is good news. Please update us when you can.
Nina
Chris Ramzy wrote:
Thank you Elizabeth. Will give an update after the appointment on
Saturday. I can't wait and I hope to get some help for My
AIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
Subject: Re: FeLV - Chris and Mylo
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:19:40 -0800
I sent this earlier this morning, but haven't seen it show up on list yet.
Forgive me if it duplicates...
Hi Chris,
I sent this earlier this morning, but haven't seen it show up on list
yet. Forgive me if it duplicates...
Hi Chris,
I'm so sorry to hear about your kitten being so sick, we all understand
how devastating a pos test result can be and how hard it is to watch
their health deteriorate. First of al
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