if the two females were related.
Del
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answer!
It IS strange, isn't it, how cool the fiv cats are! My fiv cat w
This could be because if the FIV+ cat (Licks) washes the FIV- cat and
then if the FIV- cat licks it's self on the spot where the FIV+ cat
licked him/her and said cat has a break in the skin in it's mouth it is
then possible that the FIV- can become FIV+
karolyn, there is no credible evidence at this point that FIV passes
in ANY way other than DEEP, PENETRATING bites--certainly not by
licking! it has to be blood to blood, and even rough play bites do not
seem to be a problem. remember that FIV+ generally passes during
serious male to male fights
um, let me rephrase that one sentence: so that any bite inflicted
will not be deep enough to pass the virus. (sometimes i wonder if
meow was my first language, explaining my increasing inability to
write a complete sentence)
MC
Ha! I had to go back and read your original sentence to see what you
were talking about. I must be able to read meow, the syntax didn't
throw me at all!
Nina
TenHouseCats wrote:
um, let me rephrase that one sentence: so that any bite inflicted
will not be deep enough to pass the virus.
It has been my experience that 99% of FIV+ cats live to die of things
related to negative old cats
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I will try to find it - it was an official experimental study done by
someone (whom of course I can't remember)
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hideyo, i would be very interested in seeing any info
showing non-aggressive con
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Kind regards,
Glenda
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hideyo, i would be very interested in seeing any info showing
non-aggressive contact passing the FIV virus--that goes against
everything i have read and if there IS such info, it's important that
all of us
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I don't know but I know 2 vets who mix fiv
cats in their own homes with negatives.
tonya
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Whenever I see something
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FIV cats can normally be expected to live long lives if well cared for
(for example, not outside as strays).
Gloria
At 10:44 AM 3/29/2005, you wrote:
I have a couple of questions/thoughts on this. First, no mention of anyone
vaccinated, no indication
virus than FELV cats?
Chris
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FIV cats can normally be expected to live
on their own (which they all were before they
found me!).
Chris
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Right
oh, heavens, yes, chris--not only that, but to a great degree, all FIV
really seems to do is make cats big, lazy and couch-potatoes...
seriously--from the experiences at the FIV/FeLV sanctuary, the
HEALTHIEST population--including the owner-surrenders, strays and
ferals, were the FIVs.
three
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hideyo, i would
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oh, heavens, yes, chris--not only that, but to a great degree, all FIV
really seems to do is make cats big, lazy and couch-potatoes...
seriously--from the experiences at the FIV/FeLV sanctuary, the
HEALTHIEST population--including the owner
It IS strange, isn't it, how cool the fiv cats are! My fiv cat was just as you described. The MOST laid back, friendly, neat cat I've ever had. HUGE! Especially when I first rescued him and he wasn't neutered yet. (I don't know his age, but he was old and died of hepatic liver disease. We didn't
part of the problem is that we don't know anything about these guys'
history BEFORE they come to us--even with young cats, we don't know
what diseases/illnesses they've had before, what genetic problems they
are carrying around etc. so it's hard to know which is their past and
which is the
I'm not very up to date on reading the posts lately
so may easily have missed something ... but most of us have our FIV+ mixed with
our negatives unless the positive is aggressive since it usually takes a deep
bite to pass the disease. FeLV+ is more contagious and not as many are
mixed with
% of the negatives became positives
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I'm not very up to date
hideyo, i would be very interested in seeing any info showing
non-aggressive contact passing the FIV virus--that goes against
everything i have read and if there IS such info, it's important that
all of us with positives know! (i tend to suspect it's not current
info, but since things change so
: OT:FIV false positive?
hideyo, i would be very interested in seeing any info showing
non-aggressive contact passing the FIV virus--that goes against
everything i have read and if there IS such info, it's important that
all of us with positives know! (i tend to suspect it's not current
info
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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:37 PM
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hideyo, i would be very interested in seeing any info showing
non-aggressive contact passing the FIV virus
Hideyo,
I too suspect that it's faulty info. I have a friend that rescues and
has taken in FIV+. As long as they are friendly she mixes them with the
negatives and has never had any others come up + because of it. Most
vets will advise on the side of caution.
I know you have a lot to
on the other paw, nina (that phrase is how you can tell i'm a
libra)--sometimes i think we judge a cat's comfort needs in our
terms rather than in theirs. WE may not want to live in one room, but
for someone who's never known regular shelter, food, care,
warmth--perhaps it IS enough for them.
MC,
You're absolutely right, it does depend on the cat. Every being is an
individual and I've met my share of loners. I can guarantee you that my
Ursula would much prefer to be an only cat. I was trying to train her
out of her surly behavior to some of our other cats, and secluded her in
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