[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-11 Thread Arthur Entlich
PD drives were a precursor to the RW technology. They both read CD-ROMS and could read and write to PD disks. The name came from Phase-change Disk and was invented by Panasonic. I still own two drives and too many disks. The disks held up to 650 megs, and were the same size as CD-ROMS or other

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-10 Thread Arthur Entlich
Sam McCandless wrote: At 4:03 AM -0800 12/9/04, Arthur Entlich wrote: [snip] A small bit of technological information to perhaps clarify some issues. [big snip] A nice explication, Art. Did you not deal with DVD because you agree with Brad? No, I left out DVD because I haven't bought

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-10 Thread Dieter Henkel
Hello, I believe the functionality of the disks in terms of DVD-+R verses DVD-+RW is similar. DVD-RAM is based upon Phase change also, in fact it's precursor was PD, also invented by Panasonic, and PD disks are readable on many DVD-RAM drives. Concerning the differences between DVD+R and

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-10 Thread Mike Kersenbrock
Arthur Entlich wrote: And even if a neg was to get scratched or damaged, that is repairable. However, a slight scratch on a CD may make it completely unreadable. Note that there are software utilities for reading CD's that have errors to extract the files anyway. One I've seen (can if

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-10 Thread Brad Davis
What's PD? Brad On 10/12/04 2:50, Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam McCandless wrote: At 4:03 AM -0800 12/9/04, Arthur Entlich wrote: [snip] A small bit of technological information to perhaps clarify some issues. [big snip] A nice explication, Art. Did you not deal

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-10 Thread Brad Davis
What software are you referring to Mike? And what limitations are there - e.g. Which OS, interface (SCSI Vs. USB 1.1 Vs. 2.0). I have both PC (windows 2000) and Mac (Mac OS X) available to me. Brad On 10/12/04 8:33, Mike Kersenbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arthur Entlich wrote: And even

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-09 Thread Hank Hanacek
. Anyone else find this to be true? Hank - Original Message - From: Mike Kersenbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:21 PM Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!! ?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5kon_T_S=F8nderland?= wrote: Yup, same solution here. Have

[filmscanners] RE: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-09 Thread Chris Aitken
Most big banks use tapes as backup medium. I am not sure if that is because they are more reliable, or just cheaper. DDS tapes (essentially a data version of DAT) are about £2.50 each in the UK. Ebay yeilds a fair few DDS tape units for sale (SCSI). DDS units have 2 capacities - the first

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
Hi Brad, Interesting posting, and something most of us can certainly relate to. A small bit of technological information to perhaps clarify some issues. The CDs you get which are pre-written with things like software (and music or images, for that matter) are not at al the same process as the

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-09 Thread Arthur Entlich
Arthur Entlich wrote: Misumi and Kodak gold sputtered disks are some of the better types for archival storage. That was supposed to read: Mitsui and Kodak gold sputtered disks are some of the better types for archival storage. Art

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-09 Thread Brad Davis
Art, Thanks for the info, especially on the CD-RW disk, Your comment that they should be more reliable fits your description well. I'm going to look into purchasing them - are you aware of any that are considered better. It would seem that all of these are subject to how well the coatings are

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-09 Thread Sam McCandless
At 4:03 AM -0800 12/9/04, Arthur Entlich wrote: [snip] A small bit of technological information to perhaps clarify some issues. [big snip] A nice explication, Art. Did you not deal with DVD because you agree with Brad? [snip] I've been considering DVD's, but reading about the problems they

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-09 Thread Jim Couch
Art, Thanks for your post. That is some of the best info I have seen on the subject. I learned a lot! Jim Couch Arthur Entlich wrote: Hi Brad, Interesting posting, and something most of us can certainly relate to. A small bit of technological information to perhaps clarify some issues. ...

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-09 Thread Jim Couch
Brad and others, Your expereince points to a tip I have heard elsewhere - keep your older CD drive on hand to read old discs. I did so and am very thankful I did. I have about 20 archived discs at work that our new computers will not read. I am in the process of recopying them to new discs. I

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-08 Thread Navjot Marwaha
Hello Brad, I haven't been archiving on this media personally (I still have everything on a huge internal HDD), but do have some idea from forums etc. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/hd-back.shtml points out that putting lables or writing on CD can cause the data to be lost. There are

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-08 Thread Jim Couch
Mike Johnston addressesd the issue of CD quality just recently. Here is a link: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-05-09-04.shtml I have run into the same problem with some data files from work. A couple of tips, good quality CDs do seem to help. Burn AT LEAST two CDs and check them to

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-08 Thread Ed Verkaik
From: Brad Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone must have a solution, must have found way to reduce the losses. The only way I can see to reduce my losses is to write everything on my old HP burner and make multiple copies - perhaps 4 copies each. That seems a bit much as it reduces the effective

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-08 Thread ?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5kon_T_S=F8nderland?=
Ed Verkaik wrote: From: Brad Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone must have a solution, must have found way to reduce the losses. The only way I can see to reduce my losses is to write everything on my old HP burner and make multiple copies - perhaps 4 copies each. That seems a bit much as it

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving???!!!

2004-12-08 Thread
Brad Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] But, as I try to access older CD's, I consistently find files that I can't open - [snip] I'm sure books have been written on this subject, but I'll put in my 2 cents: You didn't say which 'name brands' you used. I would only use Mitsui Gold CDRs.

[filmscanners] Re: archiving scanned images to DVDs

2004-11-27 Thread Tony Sleep
wrote: I mistakenly purchased a box of DVD+RW discs rather than the DVD+R discs. I recall there was an issue with CD-RW media not being as durable as CD-R media. How about rewriteable DVD media? Does the same difference hold for DVD? AIUI CD-RW media are actually slightly _more_ stable,

[filmscanners] Re: archiving scanned images to DVDs

2004-11-27 Thread Arthur Entlich
The view on RW media has flip flopped several times. I have always believed the technology use din RW media is superior to that of the R media., and some agree with me. Here's how they differ: R (write once) media has a dyes layer which is burned off by the laser to crete on or off bits. The

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving scans - DVD vs CD

2003-09-12 Thread Arthur Entlich
Mike Brown wrote: He was very honest in making clear that this was a projected value based on extended temperature, pressure humidity storage. What else could he say??? well. we were actually finalizing this technology back in the year 1899, and we've been secretly testing the disks since

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen(was:Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-11 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Laurie writes: Don't you have this reversed? My understanding is that JPEG is lossy while TIFF with LZW is lossless. Yes, I do, sorry. Fortunately, you understood what I meant, not what I wrote. I was in a rush, as usual.

[filmscanners] RE: Archiving and when to sharpen(was:Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-10 Thread Laurie Solomon
, 2002 4:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen(was:Color spaces for differentpurposes) Mac writes: Contrary to what Anthony Atkielski wrote, I have NEVER seen a LZW Tiff come out larger than an uncompressed one, regardless of exact pixel content

[filmscanners] RE: Archiving and when to sharpen (was: Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-09 Thread Laurie Solomon
Another aspect of purposing, different for different destinations, is the file format. I've had more than one publicist and publisher request that I provide (email, ftp) a jpeg in preference to a tiff because of the file size. (For this I use a high/maximum quality in photoshop terms: 10 to

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen (was: Color spaces fordifferent purposes)

2002-06-09 Thread Bob Shomler
I have to wonder if the publicist and publisher are requesting jpeg files rather than lwz compressed TIFF files out of force of habit ... From one, file size was specifically mentioned. Others may be due to habit, or their experience that once image goes through their prepress and screening

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen (was:Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-09 Thread Johnny Johnson
At 01:20 PM 6/9/02 -0500, Laurie Solomon wrote: Although I concur with all you have said, I have to wonder if the publicist and publisher are requesting jpeg files rather than lwz compressed TIFF files out of force of habit, lack of knowledgabout the ability to compress TIFFs using the lwz

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen (was:Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-09 Thread
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[filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen(was:Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-09 Thread Johnny Johnson
At 05:32 PM 6/9/02 -0400, Mac wrote: Wow, are you sure? The LZW TIFF was *larger*? That's unusual. Hi Mac, Thanks for asking - it looks like the original TIFF file that I grabbed must have already been saved with lwz compression. So, I did the experiment again using a fresh scan of a

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen (was:Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-09 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
It's not that unusual, though I don't recall why, and LZW compression will not reduce file size nearly as much as JPG Maris - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen (was:Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-09 Thread Anthony Atkielski
yes; if there are many pixels of same color, image will compress more. And that is almost never true for real-world photographs, although it is certainly true quite often for computer-generated images such as diagrams and the like. Wow, are you sure? The LZW TIFF was *larger*? It can be if

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen (was:Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-09 Thread
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[filmscanners] RE: Archiving and when to sharpen (was:Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-09 Thread Laurie Solomon
operations. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johnny Johnson Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen (was:Color spaces for differentpurposes) At 01:20 PM 6/9/02

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving and when to sharpen(was:Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-09 Thread
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[filmscanners] RE: Archiving and when to sharpen(was:Color spaces for differentpurposes)

2002-06-09 Thread
I have occasionally gotten JPEGs that were larger than the original, uncompressed TIFF file if the file contained a lot of detail and had been heavily sharpened, and the JPEG compression was set at maximum quality / minimum compression. So it can happen, but in my personal experience only rarely.

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving to CD - is there a file sizelimit ?

2002-05-04 Thread Arthur Entlich
I use Creator 4.0. on a Plextor 8X drive without buffer underrun protection. I had a rate of failures with version 3.5 and 4.0 both with this drive of about 25% until I changed to brand name disks. Since then I have had a ZERO failure rate. I always shut down all programs in my task bar prior

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving to CD - is there a file sizelimit ?

2002-05-03 Thread Anthony Atkielski
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 02:55 Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Archiving to CD - is there a file sizelimit ? i have a duel book on my laptop and an LS-4000. it's installed one operating system and i was unable to install the software on the other system

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving to CD - is there a file size limit ?

2002-05-02 Thread TonySleep
On Thu, 02 May 2002 11:09:20 -0500 Charlie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Should I be having difficulties with a 140MB file ? I am using W2K and Easy CD Creator 4. Easy CD is, IME, a steaming pile of zero-tolerance poo, and apt to churn out coasters given the slightest glitch. Try Nero, or

[filmscanners] Re: Archiving

2002-01-23 Thread Ezio c/o TIN
My experience is ... no false reading or miss to read with : Kodak, TDK and SKC (cheap but sure). My experience. Sincerely. Ezio www.lucenti.com e-photography site ICQ: 139507382 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002

[filmscanners] RE: Archiving

2002-01-23 Thread Tim Atherton
PROTECTED] Sent: January 23, 2002 7:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Archiving The gold layer (it's not a coating, it's part of what the data is burned into - and also the most fragile part of the CD) - most of the gold cd's seem pretty good - Kodak, Just placed

[filmscanners] Re: archiving scans to CD--safe from water?

2002-01-20 Thread
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[filmscanners] RE: archiving scans to CD--safe from water?

2002-01-19 Thread Tim Atherton
They are reasonably resistant to water, but will delaminate over time (I don't recall how long). If they have labels on, forget it. Also, any nasty oils or solvents in the flood water will do their own damage. And, good to store without any inserts in the case - saves having to deal with the