[Finale] Changing (and saving)defaults in Finale2002

2002-05-01 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Dear Johannes, I have read your excellent web-page on "How to Make Finale look Professional" and have implemented some of the changes in my document.  How do I save these changes as the deafult -  my settings revert to the old default when I start a new file. The "Document Options" are greyed out

Re: [Finale] dotted eighth rests

2002-05-01 Thread David H. Bailey
And what international convention adopted this "rule?" Which rule number is it, anyway, and what book can we llok it up in? If we are not ever to syncopate rests, then I gather that the following: 16th-note/8th-rest/16th-note is never to be written? What's up with that, it's written all the t

Re: [Finale] dotted eighth rests

2002-05-01 Thread Don Hart
on 5/1/02 5:49 PM, Wiz-of-Oz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The rule says: do not ever syncopate rests! > > so > [8.r][16] is correct > [16][8.r] is wrong, > it should be > [16][16r][8r] > > and in many cases > [8r][16r][16] makes things easier to read in orchestral context. > > regards, > Abe

Re: [Finale] 12/8 Synco Spacing. Plus 2 other points.

2002-05-01 Thread Don Hart
on 5/1/02 6:48 PM, Christopher BJ Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Another 12/8 prob. I like to use dotted half note rest, quarter rest, eighth >> rest, then (possibly) note on 4th beat. If I mass-move this measure it >> changes to(assuming quarternote=q, eighthnote= e,) >> qrest,erest,qrest,

Re: [Finale] 12/8 Synco Spacing. Plus 2 other points.

2002-05-01 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 8:53 AM +1000 5/02/02, helgesen wrote: >In 12/8 time, rhythm= dabbitty,dabbitty, dah-dah-dah. repeated several >times. (Same effect as "America" from West Side Story- but I know that's in >6/8,) >The 'big triplet' at the end of each measure is correctly notated- crotchet, >quaver-quaver (tied),

Re: [Finale] dotted eighth rests

2002-05-01 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 10:05 AM -0500 5/01/02, Doug Auwarter wrote: >on 5/1/02 5:11 AM, Christopher BJ Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] >wrote: > >> The way you are doing it is officially (according to what I learned) >> correct, as your second example uses syncopated rests, which is a >> no-no. >> >> For manuscript, I

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 10:14 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > John Howell writes: > >> And by the way, our music department started with Mosaic, switched to >> Finale about 4 years ago, and will probably make a decision to switch >> to >> Sibelius within the next month because starting this

[Finale] OT: Of Mice and Mouses (and Styluses and Stylii)

2002-05-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
As a footnote to our discussion a few months ago about the awkwardness some people feel about using "mice" as the plural of "mouse" when referring to multiple computer-based pointing devices, I had a little laugh today when shopping for a new stylus for my Palm on the Staples.com web site. Un

RE: [Finale] dotted eighth rests

2002-05-01 Thread Wiz-of-Oz
The rule says: do not ever syncopate rests! so [8.r][16] is correct [16][8.r] is wrong, it should be [16][16r][8r] and in many cases [8r][16r][16] makes things easier to read in orchestral context. regards, Abel Korzeniowski the Polish sixth lover > On 01.05.2002 7:49 Uhr, Ken Durling wrote

[Finale] 12/8 Synco Spacing. Plus 2 other points.

2002-05-01 Thread helgesen
In 12/8 time, rhythm= dabbitty,dabbitty, dah-dah-dah. repeated several times. (Same effect as "America" from West Side Story- but I know that's in 6/8,) The 'big triplet' at the end of each measure is correctly notated- crotchet, quaver-quaver (tied), crotchet. Problem is the two qs are spaced too

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread Daniel Wolf
I would like to learn more specifically about what difficulties your students are experiencing. I have recently done a series of composition workshops with students (aged 12 to 17) here in Budapest at American and German schools. All of them use Finale on one platform or the other, all are self-t

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread David H. Bailey
Benjamin Smedberg wrote: >>You seem to be thinking in terms of improving the >>hard-wired defaults. What I'd like is a "style" >>mechanism that lets a user develop a set of defaults. >> > > Finale's libraries are supposed to do this. The problem is that there are > so many different library

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
> You seem to be thinking in terms of improving the > hard-wired defaults. What I'd like is a "style" > mechanism that lets a user develop a set of defaults. Finale's libraries are supposed to do this. The problem is that there are so many different library types, that you must load seven or e

Re: [Finale] TAN: Midi input

2002-05-01 Thread Patrick Hubers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: > I have a new computer running on WindowsXP. > > Although I have no problems playing sounds, I cannot input from my midi > keyboard. > > When I go into MIDI Setup the input selection box is empty. This may sound trivial, but do you actually have the correct drivers i

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread Chuck Israels
At 12:51 PM -0500 5/1/02, Don Hart wrote: >on 5/1/02 11:51 AM, John Howell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> And no, that isn't the only reason my department head is considering >> switching, although it's the proximate one. Too many students are making >> too many complaints about not being ab

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Allen, This is just to add a voice to what Phil Shaw wrote below. After the fact global style changes which could be applied to existing files would be a great boon. Chuck At 10:41 AM -0700 5/1/02, Phil Shaw wrote: >Hi Allen, > >Your request for suggestions on defaults gives me a chance

[Finale] OT: Of Mice and Mouses (and Styluses and Stylii)

2002-05-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
As a footnote to our discussion a few months ago about the awkwardness some people feel about using "mice" as the plural of "mouse" when referring to multiple computer-based pointing devices, I had a little laugh today when shopping for a new stylus for my Palm on the Staples.com web site. Un

Re: [Finale] OSX (was: Finale's Defaults )

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Darcy James Argue wrote > I suspect that many, many school labs will be moving to OS > X over the summer. If so, they are doing so prematurely. The issue is not really Finale v. Sibelius. The real issue is the availability of X versions of such staples as Digital Performer & Pro Tools. A future

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 10:14 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > John Howell writes: > >> And by the way, our music department started with Mosaic, switched to >> Finale about 4 years ago, and will probably make a decision to switch >> to >> Sibelius within the next month because starting this

[Finale] TAN: Midi input

2002-05-01 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
I have a new computer running on WindowsXP. Although I have no problems playing sounds, I cannot input from my midi keyboard. When I go into MIDI Setup the input selection box is empty. I have not the faintest idea how to tell Windows XP to input midi, (or to do anything else for that matter) in

SV: [Finale] Default double-whole rest

2002-05-01 Thread Mike Cholewa
Go to options -> Documents Settings -> Music Characters. There you can set the default measure rest to what symbol you like (or have in your music font). Mike -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] På vegne af Benjamin Smedberg Sendt: 1. maj 2002 19:44 T

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread Don Hart
on 5/1/02 11:51 AM, John Howell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And no, that isn't the only reason my department head is considering > switching, although it's the proximate one. Too many students are making > too many complaints about not being able to figure out how to use Finale. > That's a fai

[Finale] Default double-whole rest

2002-05-01 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
Dear list: Is there a way to make the default rest in a measure the double-whole rest rather than the standard whole rest? If not, is there a way to automatically add double-whole rests to every empty bar in a score? I tried the standard "fill with rests" but it doesn't affect empty measures.

[Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread Phil Shaw
Hi Allen, Your request for suggestions on defaults gives me a chance to hop on a soap box for my main wish-list item. You seem to be thinking in terms of improving the hard-wired defaults. What I'd like is a "style" mechanism that lets a user develop a set of defaults. You probably just said

Re: [Finale] dotted eighth rests

2002-05-01 Thread David H. Bailey
I didn't see anything specifically discussing this situation in Stone's Music Notation in th e20th Century, but on page 112, in the example at the bottom, he DOES use a dotted-8th-rest following a 16th-note to complete beat 3 of the measure. In the Norton Manual of Music Notation by George Heu

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread Michael Cook
Hello Allen, here are a few things I would suggest changing in the default settings: 1. Beaming style None of the beaming styles will give perfect results in all situations, but the style "flatten beams based on extreme note" comes closer than the "standard note" style that is used at present

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread John Howell
Robert Patterson wrote: > >If this is really the only reason you are switching, it is a silly one. >From the >rest of your post, it seems you have many other grievances, and I won't try to >argue with them. But if you really are only switching because you don't >yet have >a carbonized Finale, that

Re: [Finale] dotted eighth rests

2002-05-01 Thread Don Hart
on 5/1/02 8:48 AM, Robert Patterson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Concerning dotted 16ths, I believe one of the references is fairly clear about > it. I know David Bailey said Gardner Read was silent, but I thought I > remembered > something in there about it nevertheless. If not there then in Ku

Re: [Finale] dotted eighth rests

2002-05-01 Thread Doug Auwarter
on 5/1/02 5:11 AM, Christopher BJ Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The way you are doing it is officially (according to what I learned) > correct, as your second example uses syncopated rests, which is a > no-no. > > For manuscript, I have told my students to avoid dotted rests > altogether,

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Patterson
John Howell wrote > (The power users disagree, of course, > because they LIKE to tweak!) That is perhaps as ridiculous a statement as I've read on this list (and there have been plenty of others.) Many people would probably consider me a power user, and I can assure I do NOT like to tweak. (I'd

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread Jari Williamsson
John Howell writes: > And by the way, our music department started with Mosaic, switched to > Finale about 4 years ago, and will probably make a decision to switch to > Sibelius within the next month because starting this summer we are moving > to Mac OS X and must have a product that is compatib

Re: [Finale] Finale's Defaults

2002-05-01 Thread John Howell
Allen J. Fisher wrote: > >My name is Allen Fisher and I am a Coda employee and occasional lurker on >this list. During the time I've been on the list, I've noticed some >complaints about Finale's default settings. Specific suggestions on what >could be done to improve this area of Finale are often

Re: [Finale] dotted eighth rests

2002-05-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Concerning dotted 16ths, I believe one of the references is fairly clear about it. I know David Bailey said Gardner Read was silent, but I thought I remembered something in there about it nevertheless. If not there then in Kurt Stone. (Unfortunately those reference books are not here at this compu

Re: [Finale] TAN (very) - chord name

2002-05-01 Thread Don Hart
on 4/30/02 2:02 PM, Christopher BJ Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Actually, that's not quite right, as the bVII works perfectly well as > a plagal chord without any extensions whatsoever (which is the chord > under discussion), and the bVII7 and bVIImaj7 likewise. A stylish progression in t

Re: [Finale] dotted eighth rests

2002-05-01 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 01.05.2002 7:49 Uhr, Ken Durling wrote > Hi all - > > I've been following the convention (?) of using a dotted eighth rest > when a sixteenth falls on the last sixteenth of the beat and the rest > precedes it; and when the sixteenth note is on the first of the beat, > followed by rests, I'

Re: [Finale] dotted eighth rests

2002-05-01 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 10:49 PM -0700 4/30/02, Ken Durling wrote: >Hi all - > >I've been following the convention (?) of using a dotted eighth rest >when a sixteenth falls on the last sixteenth of the beat and the rest >precedes it; and when the sixteenth note is on the first of the beat, >followed by rests, I've b

Re: [Finale] dotted eighth rests

2002-05-01 Thread David H. Bailey
Gardner Read doesn't mention this situation in his book Music Notation. Ted Ross doesn't show your specific example, either. In my opinion the dotted rest should be used in both cases, since it completes the beat clearly. If it is okay to use it where the rest comes first, then it is okay t