Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.03.2004 1:51 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote > Well, you've got to have something in the blank notation layer that > is going to take up a lot of space, like the written-out notes for a > trill. That's where I'm getting all the problems, with ornaments for > playback. David, do you really need

Re: [Finale] Getting a barline at the start of ech line

2004-03-16 Thread Klaas de Jong
Hi all, The point is that for Finale there's only one barline: the one to the right. Only the first measure in a system has a 'left' barline also. I think this may be the cause of some confusion. Klaas de Jong. Op 16-mrt-04 om 21:04 heeft John Howell het volgende geschreven: At 11:23 AM +1100 3

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 16 Mar 2004, at 05:10 PM, Phil Daley wrote: At 3/16/2004 01:57 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: >You never zoom past 100%? Why would I? Everything is readable at that point. As David said, fine-tuning of positioning of *anything* in Finale -- slurs, lyrics, articulations, expressions, etc. --

Re: [Finale] Cross staff notes and artics

2004-03-16 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:19 PM 3/16/2004, Harold Owen wrote: >I've found that it's helpful to create new articulations for cross-staff >notes. In the Articulation dialog box use "Duplicate" then "Edit" and set >manual positioning. Then the new articulations will stay put. This is true, but it shouldn't be necessary.

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-16 Thread Rich Caldwell
At 7:51 PM -0500 3/16/04, David W. Fenton wrote: On 16 Mar 2004 at 19:36, Rich Caldwell wrote: I'm not sure why you used a blank notation staff style in the first place (maybe there weren't as many layer options in '97 or I'm missing a purpose for it here), . . . There wasn't a spacing problem

Re: [Finale] Cross staff notes and artics

2004-03-16 Thread Harold Owen
Title: Re: [Finale] Cross staff notes and artics Aaron Sherber writes: Hi all, WinFin2004b I have a piano staff with notes entered in the treble staff and some of them dragged down to the bass staff. I find I am unable to get articulations positioned correctly on the cross-staff notes -- even

RE: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Mar 2004 at 20:32, Williams, Jim wrote: > Pardon me; I've come into the middle of this. Have you considered... > > Options=>Document Options=>Layers=>"This layer affects music spacing" > for the "offending" layer should be UNCHECKED. Is it? If that worked on a measure-by-measure basis, tha

RE: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-16 Thread Williams, Jim
Pardon me; I've come into the middle of this. Have you considered... Options=>Document Options=>Layers=>"This layer affects music spacing" for the "offending" layer should be UNCHECKED. Is it? Jim -Original Message- From: David W. Fenton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Cross staff notes and artics

2004-03-16 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:15 PM 3/16/2004, Richard Huggins wrote: >When you say "even when I drag them" do you mean the articulations or the >notes? Are you entering the articulations when the notes are in their >original staff (before using cross staff)? I mean dragging the articulations, and it doesn't matter if I e

Re: [Finale] Cross staff notes and artics

2004-03-16 Thread Richard Huggins
I can't speak to version 4 stuff, but it works pretty well for me in 2k2. When you say "even when I drag them" do you mean the articulations or the notes? Are you entering the articulations when the notes are in their original staff (before using cross staff)? In case it helps if working on the ar

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Mar 2004 at 19:36, Rich Caldwell wrote: > I'm not sure why you used a blank notation staff style in the first > place (maybe there weren't as many layer options in '97 or I'm missing > a purpose for it here), . . . There wasn't a spacing problem in WinFin97. > . . . but even by using your

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-16 Thread Rich Caldwell
David, I'm not sure why you used a blank notation staff style in the first place (maybe there weren't as many layer options in '97 or I'm missing a purpose for it here), but even by using your method I couldn't duplicate the problem (MacFin2k4). However, I have a suggestion that might work if

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Mar 2004 at 17:17, Phil Daley wrote: > my 22 inch monitor This might have something to do with your preference for not maximizing. I had no idea we were dealing with someone using a monitor of a size that is so far out of the ordinary. -- David W. Fentonhttp://ww

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Mar 2004 at 17:10, Phil Daley wrote: > At 3/16/2004 01:57 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > > >You never zoom past 100%? > > Why would I? Everything is readable at that point. Don't you ever do any find positioning? I believe that Coda has told us that to get absolutely accurate positioni

[Finale] Cross staff notes and artics

2004-03-16 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi all, WinFin2004b I have a piano staff with notes entered in the treble staff and some of them dragged down to the bass staff. I find I am unable to get articulations positioned correctly on the cross-staff notes -- even when I drag them to where I want them, they bounce to some completely d

[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 8, Issue 16

2004-03-16 Thread Chuck Israels
Barbara Touburg wrote (re: Jari): Thanks for gossipping. I assume the child is born by now? Couldn't we send him our congratulations and ask him to return to the list and/or to his plugins? Yes, a daughter (in early October). I haven't heard from Jari in a while, but why not write him at [EMAI

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Phil Daley
At 3/16/2004 01:57 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: >You never zoom past 100%? Why would I? Everything is readable at that point. >Again, I have a feeling you might be in the minority. I don't think I ever said I wasn't. >> I can't image what possible purpose there would be in maximizing a >> scr

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Phil Daley
At 3/16/2004 02:06 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >In applications I use often, I kill as many icons as I can & replace them >with abbreviated text, and make the remaining icons as small as I can. I >want every pixel to be workspace, not borders & designs & trinkets & >widgets & other droppings o

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-16 Thread gj.berg
I've never bothered with staff styles meself and, you are moving swiftly beyond my FinMAC 2002 system 9 knowledge, so I can't much help you here.  You can hear I'm even having trouble getting that out.  I must say I have noticed allot of non-solvable problems cropping up where none existed afor

Re: [Finale] No one has advice on spacing with blank notation?

2004-03-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Mar 2004 at 13:31, Mark D Lew wrote: > On Mar 16, 2004, at 10:33 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > I posted yesterday about my problems with spacing when using blank > > notation, and have received no answers. > > > > Does no one really have no ideas or suggestions? > > I explored the quest

Re: [Finale] Feature Request: Tabbed windows

2004-03-16 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Erg, they why spend all this time on these little frill things. Something like this would make my life a LOT easier. John Howell wrote: At 3:10 PM -0500 3/15/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: Eric, The two are not mutually exclusive. I believe some linkage between score and parts is event

Re: [Finale] Feature Request: Tabbed windows

2004-03-16 Thread John Howell
At 3:10 PM -0500 3/15/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: Eric, The two are not mutually exclusive. I believe some linkage between score and parts is eventually coming, but I'm pretty sure it's a difficult problem to solve and is probably several years off, still. In the meanwhile, tabs would at leas

Re: [Finale] Auto-Save Stall Bug

2004-03-16 Thread Rich Caldwell
I sometimes manage to get myself out of this by fiddling around. Last night it happened, and I think I remember what I did: Click on the Finder to leave Finale. Then choose Finale in the dock to force it to the front, and immediately after (or while) doing that press the ESC key. That cancell

Re: [Finale] Getting a barline at the start of ech line

2004-03-16 Thread Robert Patterson
I agree with those who say that starting a single-staff system with a barline is incorrect. But Finale can do it either way. It's in the barline options in doc options, but I don't remember the exact verbiage. Basically the option tells Finale whether to draw the left line on single-staff system

Re: [Finale] Cross Staff Accidental Question

2004-03-16 Thread Harold Owen
Title: Re: [Finale] Cross Staff Accidental Question Rob Deemer writes: Finalefolk, I have a friend who has an interesting dilemma. He's got a piano part which has cross-staffing galore and he's having problems with accidentals being hidden or forced out where he'd rather them not be. For exampl

Re: [Finale] Getting a barline at the start of ech line

2004-03-16 Thread John Howell
At 11:23 AM +1100 3/14/04, Rocky Road wrote: I have a single treble clef stave and and each line starts open ended. I have gone into the measure attributes and chosen "normal" for the left barline, but it doesn't show. How can I get each stave to start with a barline on the left (to the left of

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 2:06 PM -0500 3/16/04, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: If I could have a screen the size of my desk, it still wouldn't be enough. Every application is always maximized if it allows that (and these "designy" applications with fixed borders -- arrgh!). Yeah! I hear ya! I want every pixel to be work

[Finale] Great news for Ricoh AP2610 owners! (Mac OS X)

2004-03-16 Thread Darcy James Argue
I can hardly believe it! The latest update to OS X (10.3.3) fixes USB printing for the Ricoh AP2610! No more cumbersome plugging and unplugging the USB cable between print jobs! Everything works the way it's supposed to work! (And to think I was *this* close to spending over $300 on the wirel

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Mar 2004 at 14:10, gj.berg wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: > > >I just upgraded an older file (I think it began life as 3.52, was > >converted to WinFin97, now into WinFin2K3), and I'm having fits with > >the spacing for any measure with blank notation in layer 1 and notes > >in layer 4 (th

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-16 Thread gj.berg
One suggestion is turn on active layer only - go to 4 then do spacing jerry David W. Fenton wrote: I just upgraded an older file (I think it began life as 3.52, was converted to WinFin97, now into WinFin2K3), and I'm having fits with the spacing for any measure with blank notation in layer 1 a

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:49 PM 3/16/04 -0500, Phil Daley wrote: >I can't imagine needing to see more than a whole page at once, in 100% page >view, that would take up about a half a screen. >I can't image what possible purpose there would be in maximizing a scroll >view. Whole width, obviously, but maximized would

Re: [Finale] Cross Staff Accidental Question

2004-03-16 Thread Richard Huggins
You possibly already know that to *Finale* all those notes are in the same stave. That's why it is not repeating the accidental. I think he'll have to use the asterisk key on each occurance to get the accidental to appear. I can't find any way to alter Finale's behaviour as regards repeating accide

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 16 Mar 2004, at 01:49 PM, Phil Daley wrote: I can't imagine needing to see more than a whole page at once, in 100% page view, that would take up about a half a screen. [boggle] You never zoom past 100%? Again, I have a feeling you might be in the minority. I can't image what possible purpos

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Phil Daley
At 3/16/2004 01:35 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: >On 16 Mar 2004, at 12:53 PM, Phil Daley wrote: > >> "Maximizing" an application is a totally different process, something >> I would never ever do. It would then take up the whole screen. I >> cannot ever imagine a circumstance when this would be

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 16 Mar 2004, at 12:53 PM, Phil Daley wrote: "Maximizing" an application is a totally different process, something I would never ever do. It would then take up the whole screen. I cannot ever imagine a circumstance when this would be something I would want to do. You cannot *imagine*? You

[Finale] No one has advice on spacing with blank notation?

2004-03-16 Thread David W. Fenton
I posted yesterday about my problems with spacing when using blank notation, and have received no answers. Does no one really have no ideas or suggestions? Or have I done something to deserve being shunned? :) -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Mar 2004 at 12:53, Phil Daley wrote: > At 3/16/2004 12:37 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > > >Yes, but in Finale, the Zoom ("maximize") button is effectively the > >same as the Maximize button in Windows. In MacFinale, clicking the > >Zoom button *always* causes the top left corner of the

Re: [Finale] Articulation

2004-03-16 Thread Barbara Touburg
Thanks Brad, but fortunately a reboot straightened it all out. I really need to clean up my computer, I think - shiver. Brad Beyenhof wrote: Barbara: I have found that you have to include at least part of the staff when applying the articulations this way. For instance, if your notes are on

[Finale] Cross Staff Accidental Question

2004-03-16 Thread Rob Deemer
Finalefolk, I have a friend who has an interesting dilemma. He's got a piano part which has cross-staffing galore and he's having problems with accidentals being hidden or forced out where he'd rather them not be. For example, he'll have an Eb on beat one in the top staff, then a similar note on b

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Phil Daley
At 3/16/2004 12:37 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: >Yes, but in Finale, the Zoom ("maximize") button is effectively the >same as the Maximize button in Windows. In MacFinale, clicking the >Zoom button *always* causes the top left corner of the window to align >itself to the top left corner of the sc

Re: [Finale] Articulation

2004-03-16 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Tuesday, March 16, 2004, at 09:39 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote: Maybe it's my configuration again, but in the Articulations tool, pressing a metatool key and dragging over notes does not apply articulations! Barbara: I have found that you have to include at least part of the staff when applyi

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Richard Huggins
Title: Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling Mac users already know this, but for clarification I would point out that in pre-OSX, using Option-Click on the zoom button (otherwise called maxmimizing) does, in fact, cause the window to open to the full height and width of

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 16 Mar 2004, at 05:59 AM, Dennis W. Manasco wrote: At 3:43 pm -0500 3/15/04, Phil Daley wrote: In a Windows app, it is not possible to have cascaded windows and maximized windows at the same time. As soon as you maximize one cascaded window, all the rest are automatically maximized, too.

[Finale] Articulation

2004-03-16 Thread Barbara Touburg
Maybe it's my configuration again, but in the Articulations tool, pressing a metatool key and dragging over notes does not apply articulations! Barbara ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] PDFs

2004-03-16 Thread Byron DeFries
Dear Harold,   Please send me your Finale 2004 Tutorial files for Windows.   Thank you,   Byron DeFries Albuquerque, NMHarold Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Wisdom,In System 10.3 for Mac, when you save a Finale file as a PDF file, it uses Preview, and the file will open in Preview. Those usin

Re: [Finale] Jari

2004-03-16 Thread Barbara Touburg
Thanks for gossipping. I assume the child is born by now? Couldn't we send him our congratulations and ask him to return to the list and/or to his plugins? Barbara Chuck Israels wrote: Jari gossip. I was in Gothenberg in the Fall and had the good fortune of spending a nice leisurely breakfast

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-16 Thread Dennis W. Manasco
At 3:43 pm -0500 3/15/04, Phil Daley wrote: In a Windows app, it is not possible to have cascaded windows and maximized windows at the same time. As soon as you maximize one cascaded window, all the rest are automatically maximized, too. Aside Brad's comments, there is a subtle cultural diffe