[Finale] Articulation bug FinMac 2004

2004-03-21 Thread David Froom
These bugs keep coming. FinMac 2004 I was putting in articulations, specifically the accent-staccato. When I put it into a number of parts (two or more) by click-dragging while holding the z key (the pre-programmed key), they _appear_ to go in as the correct articulation, and seem in the score c

Re: [Finale] Articulation

2004-03-17 Thread David H. Bailey
Must be your configuration again. Using WinFin2004b, Win98se, the articulation metatools work as they should. David H. Bailey Barbara Touburg wrote: Maybe it's my configuration again, but in the Articulations tool, pressing a metatool key and dragging over notes does not apply articulations

Re: [Finale] Articulation

2004-03-16 Thread Barbara Touburg
Thanks Brad, but fortunately a reboot straightened it all out. I really need to clean up my computer, I think - shiver. Brad Beyenhof wrote: Barbara: I have found that you have to include at least part of the staff when applying the articulations this way. For instance, if your notes are on

Re: [Finale] Articulation

2004-03-16 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Tuesday, March 16, 2004, at 09:39 AM, Barbara Touburg wrote: Maybe it's my configuration again, but in the Articulations tool, pressing a metatool key and dragging over notes does not apply articulations! Barbara: I have found that you have to include at least part of the staff when applyi

[Finale] Articulation

2004-03-16 Thread Barbara Touburg
Maybe it's my configuration again, but in the Articulations tool, pressing a metatool key and dragging over notes does not apply articulations! Barbara ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

RE: [Finale] Articulation/Slurs question

2004-03-08 Thread Brad Beyenhof
However... according to Stone (which is my favorite notation reference), staccatos and tenutos always go inside slurs, but accents go outside slurs if they're on the ends. I feel that this is the most natural placement, since the slur is (in most cases) much too far from the notehead when a big ac

Re: [Finale] Articulation/Slurs question

2004-03-08 Thread David H. Bailey
Or simply assign the accent to be inside slurs. David H. Bailey Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 01:51 PM, Rob Deemer wrote: It seems that slurs in 2004 do not collide with staccato and tenuto markings, but when I have accents, they collide. I wasn't sure if this is a font

Re: [Finale] Articulation/Slurs question

2004-03-08 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 02:46 PM, I wrote: There is no "outside slurs" option, though that would REALLY be nice. Just to clarify: I of course would only like an "outside slurs" option if it applied just to the beginning or the end of the slur. Putting an accent outside the middle of a slur

Re: [Finale] Articulation/Slurs question

2004-03-08 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:56 PM 3/8/2004, Brad Beyenhof wrote: >I think I may have found what you're talking about... but if you mean >Modify Slurs, that will just move the slur. I'm wanting something that >will move the *articulation* away from the notehead and out of the way. You may need to play a bit with the se

Re: [Finale] Articulation/Slurs question

2004-03-08 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 03:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not so - TGTools can do it. I think I may have found what you're talking about... but if you mean Modify Slurs, that will just move the slur. I'm wanting something that will move the *articulation* away from the notehead and out of

Re: [Finale] Articulation/Slurs question

2004-03-08 Thread JohnBlane
In a message dated 3/8/04 5:45:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > In a message dated 3/8/04 4:47:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> As it is, there is no way to fix it but to move accents away from the >> notehead manually so that they don't collide. > Not so - TGTools can do it. Sounds goo

Re: [Finale] Articulation/Slurs question

2004-03-08 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 03:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/8/04 4:47:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As it is, there is no way to fix it but to move accents away from the notehead manually so that they don't collide. Not so - TGTools can do it. Sounds good... but I can'

Re: [Finale] Articulation/Slurs question

2004-03-08 Thread JohnBlane
In a message dated 3/8/04 4:47:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The default Articulation definition for staccato and tenuto includes "inside slurs" checked, for accent it does not. There is no "outside slurs" option, though that would REALLY be nice. As it is, there is no way to fix it bu

Re: [Finale] Articulation/Slurs question

2004-03-08 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 01:51 PM, Rob Deemer wrote: It seems that slurs in 2004 do not collide with staccato and tenuto markings, but when I have accents, they collide. I wasn't sure if this is a font annotation thing or not. Any ideas on how to fix such a thing, if it is indeed fixable? T

[Finale] Articulation/Slurs question

2004-03-08 Thread Rob Deemer
Hey folks, I just got done with a few copy jobs and noticed something that I wouldn't mind fixing. It seems that slurs in 2004 to not collide with staccato and tenuto markings, but when I have accents, they collide. I wasn't sure if this is a font annotation thing or not. Any ideas on how to fix

Re: [Finale] Articulation over note over measure in tuplet...

2004-02-23 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
> So it does. Plays havoc with spacing, but easier than not. Spacing? You mean to say that you have a way of controlling spacing when you input notes over and beyond the meter of a measure? For me, they always expanded to the right in rediculous steps which had nothing to do with the spacing setti

Re: [Finale] Articulation over note over measure in tuplet...

2004-02-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:37 PM 2/23/04 +0200, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: >The key is to apply the articulation while the note in question is in the >frame in question (the frame in which you are creating the start of your >tuplet.) Simply dragging it with special tools I think will do the trick. So it does. Plays

Re: [Finale] Articulation over note over measure in tuplet...

2004-02-23 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:57 PM Subject: [Finale] Articulation over note over measure in tuplet... > Now *that's* a clear subject line. > > Here's the question: > > F2K3/Win > > I want an articulation o

[Finale] Articulation over note over measure in tuplet...

2004-02-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Now *that's* a clear subject line. Here's the question: F2K3/Win I want an articulation on the last note of a tuplet. The tuplet straddles a barline. The articulation seems to "take" and shows the articulation as I'm placing it. The handle shows in scroll view. After it's placed and redrawn, tho

Re: [Finale] Articulation handles

2003-12-20 Thread Harold Owen
At 2:46 PM -0500 12/20/03, David H. Bailey wrote: My bad - I was remembering the handles for all expressions showing up and my memory slipped a bit and I thought they had been showing up on articulations as well. I'm not sure how Coda could do what Aaron suggests, though -- those staccato dots

Re: [Finale] Articulation handles

2003-12-20 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:46 PM 12/20/2003, David H. Bailey wrote: >I'm not sure how Coda could do what Aaron suggests, though -- those >staccato dots are mighty small at 50% -- if there were a handle for each >one that allowed the dot to show I am sure I couldn't be accurate enough >with the mouse pointer to click th

Re: [Finale] Articulation handles

2003-12-20 Thread David H. Bailey
My bad - I was remembering the handles for all expressions showing up and my memory slipped a bit and I thought they had been showing up on articulations as well. I'm not sure how Coda could do what Aaron suggests, though -- those staccato dots are mighty small at 50% -- if there were a handle

Re: [Finale] Articulation handles

2003-12-20 Thread Harold Owen
At 9:14 AM +0100 12/20/03, d. collins wrote: I don't recall this happening before, but now, when I use the articulation tool, ALL the articulations in the score have handles. In normal-size view (100%), these handles hide all my articulations! Is there any way to get rid of the handles, and see

Re: [Finale] Articulation handles

2003-12-20 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:36 AM 12/20/2003, d. collins wrote: >Either that, or a way of toggling the display on or off, or only displaying >them in a selected region, or whatever would solve the problem of locating >the "parent" notes without ruining all the display. The benefits of the current system go beyond just n

Re: [Finale] Articulation handles

2003-12-20 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:34 AM 12/20/2003, David H. Bailey wrote: >This happened a couple of versions ago in response to all of our >complaints about not being able to find the note that some of the >articulations had been attached to. It's new in 2004, actually. >Coda's response was very much welcome by most users

Re: [Finale] Articulation handles

2003-12-20 Thread David H. Bailey
This happened a couple of versions ago in response to all of our complaints about not being able to find the note that some of the articulations had been attached to. Sometimes certain markings (fermatas over barlines) are placed over a note and then dragged. They may be placed on the last no

Re: [Finale] Articulation handles

2003-12-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.12.2003 11:51 Uhr, d. collins wrote > Johannes Gebauer écrit: >> Yes, I have that problem, too, though it's been there all the time with 2k4. > > I've only upgraded very recently, that's probably why I didn't notice it. > It's a real nightmare! Some notes have up to 3 different articulation

Re: [Finale] Articulation handles

2003-12-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.12.2003 11:16 Uhr, Johannes Gebauer wrote > On 20.12.2003 9:14 Uhr, d. collins wrote > >> I don't recall this happening before, but now, when I use the articulation >> tool, ALL the articulations in the score have handles. In normal-size view >> (100%), these handles hide all my articulatio

Re: [Finale] Articulation handles

2003-12-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.12.2003 9:14 Uhr, d. collins wrote > I don't recall this happening before, but now, when I use the articulation > tool, ALL the articulations in the score have handles. In normal-size view > (100%), these handles hide all my articulations! Is there any way to get > rid of the handles, and se

Re: [Finale] Articulation substitution (Explain this one!)

2002-07-16 Thread Linda Worsley
At 10:45 AM +0200 7/16/02, Jari Williamsson wrote: >Richard Yates writes: > >> A little investigation showed that the lower case letters were the >> Articulation Metatool keys that I had assigned to the respective >> articulations! >> >> Is that strange or what? I've discovered that in distil

Re: [Finale] Articulation substitution (Explain this one!)

2002-07-16 Thread Jari Williamsson
Richard Yates writes: > A little investigation showed that the lower case letters were the > Articulation Metatool keys that I had assigned to the respective > articulations! > > Is that strange or what? > > Any suggestions? Have you been able to recreate it from a Finale file yourself? Did y

[Finale] Articulation substitution (Explain this one!)

2002-07-15 Thread Richard Yates
I sent a FinWin2001 file to a publisher. I received back a proof in a pdf format. All was fine except that several articulations had been replaced by lower case letters. In not all cases was any particular articulation substituted for. A little investigation showed that the lower case letters we

Re: [Finale] Articulation question

2002-06-22 Thread Linda Worsley
At 2:09 PM +0200 6/22/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >Should the articulation consisting of a dot and a dash (ie the "non-legato" >sign) have the dash or the dot closer to the staff, ie, when placed above a >note should the dash be top or bottom? It's not a "top or bottom" thing. Generally when a d

Re: [Finale] Articulation question

2002-06-22 Thread Robert Patterson
I've always seen it with the dot closer to the staff, irrespective of stem direction. Stravinsky often used this articulation. See, e.g., the 1953 Septet. Johannes Gebauer wrote: > > Should the articulation consisting of a dot and a dash (ie the "non-legato" > sign) have the dash or the dot clos

Re: [Finale] Articulation question

2002-06-22 Thread David H. Bailey
I am used to seeing them with the dot nearest the staff and the line to the outside of the dot. Johannes Gebauer wrote: > Should the articulation consisting of a dot and a dash (ie the "non-legato" > sign) have the dash or the dot closer to the staff, ie, when placed above a > note should the

[Finale] Articulation question

2002-06-22 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Should the articulation consisting of a dot and a dash (ie the "non-legato" sign) have the dash or the dot closer to the staff, ie, when placed above a note should the dash be top or bottom? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de