RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-17 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 3:20 PM 09/16/03, John Howell wrote: >Others may disagree, but IMHO the proper pronunciation of place names >is the pronunciation used by the natives, not what it looks like on >paper. Thus, "Worchestershire" can be WOO-ster and I'm perfectly >happy. And no non-native can figure out how to pr

RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:53 PM 9/16/03 -0400, Andrew Stiller wrote: >In that case, the birthplace of our nation was in Fluffya. Yo, I lived jussuparoad in Trenn f'10 yeahs. Now in Vuhmaunt. Place names like Calais (CAL-ess) and Barre (Berry). Dennis ___ Finale mailing

RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-16 Thread Andrew Stiller
Others may disagree, but IMHO the proper pronunciation of place names is the pronunciation used by the natives, not what it looks like on paper. John In that case, the birthplace of our nation was in Fluffya. And no non-native can figure out how to pronouce Polish or Welsh words from the way

RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stu wrote: >However, I also say TROMbone sometimes, even though I play one, and also >every now and then, UMbrella, both of which induce spousal laughter. Maybe >millions DO say TROMbone, and we should call your daughter on that one. But >in any case, she should continue to laugh at "robutt" with

RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-16 Thread John Howell
However, I also say TROMbone sometimes, even though I play one, and also every now and then, UMbrella, both of which induce spousal laughter. Maybe millions DO say TROMbone, and we should call your daughter on that one. But in any case, she should continue to laugh at "robutt" without a doubt. St

RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-16 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:24 AM -0400 9/15/03, Stu McIntire wrote: I think it is accordingly fair to exempt this pronunciation from scorn. How about my pronunciation of "robutt" and "TROMbone"? Can I tell my daughter not to laugh at me any more, as my pronunciations are now exempt? Can I? Eh? Can I? Christopher

RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-16 Thread Fisher, Allen
Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls Sure! My uncle says "TROMbone" (Ohio twang) -- and at 76 he still plays better than I ever did! Randy > -Original Message- > From:

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-15 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Monday, September 15, 2003, at 03:08 PM, Stu McIntire wrote: But in any case, she should continue to laugh at "robutt" without a doubt. Even though it is a part of the British vernacular to pronounce it like that? - Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-15 Thread Stokes, Randy
L PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls > > > At 11:24 AM -0400 9/15/03, Stu McIntire wrote: > > >I think it is accordingly fair to exempt this > >pronunciation from scorn. > > > > > How about my pronunciation of "robutt" an

RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-15 Thread Stu McIntire
Christopher quoting me and following up: >>I think it is accordingly fair to exempt this >>pronunciation from scorn. > >How about my pronunciation of "robutt" and "TROMbone"? Can I tell my >daughter not to laugh at me any more, as my pronunciations are now >exempt? Can I? Eh? Can I? Now ain't ther

RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-15 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:24 AM -0400 9/15/03, Stu McIntire wrote: I think it is accordingly fair to exempt this pronunciation from scorn. How about my pronunciation of "robutt" and "TROMbone"? Can I tell my daughter not to laugh at me any more, as my pronunciations are now exempt? Can I? Eh? Can I? Christopher

RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-15 Thread Stu McIntire
>When Popeye mispronounces muscles as "mus-kulls", it is a good >laugh. I don't find it at all funny, charming, cute, endearing, and >certainly not reassuring when the Commander-in-Chief of the biggest >arsenal of bombs in the world mispronounces nuclear as "nukey-ler". >It isn't a case of the ev

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 4:41 PM 09/13/03, David H. Bailey wrote: >[...] >We just didn't happen to be around when green-witch changed into >gren-itch and we ARE around when nuclear is changing in to nucular. I'm not so sure of that. I think it more likely that the "nucular" pronunciation has been around as long as th

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread John Bell
At 4:41 pm -0400 13.09.2003, David H. Bailey wrote: Why are all those words and names you list pronounced so differently than their spelling? They must at some time to have been pronounced as they are spelled or they wouldn't be spelled that way! Not necessarily. London may always have been p

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 13/09/2003 21:42:02 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But these are all mispronunciations which have grown to be accepted as correct pronunciations Exactly! - the correct pronunciation is that which is recognised as correct by the majority.  If one insists on pron

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread David H. Bailey
;t be ignored! Jim W. -Original Message- From: Christopher BJ Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 13-Sep-03 8:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls At 8:44 AM -0400 9/13/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Onl

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread David H. Bailey
Why is the correct pronunciation gren-itch, though, since the word is clearly spelled green-witch? That's my whole point! I know the pronunciation is gren-itch, despite it's spelling, and it is pronounced that way because it is much easier to say. And for some people nucular is easier to say

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread Andrew Stiller
Her husband used to try for hours to get her to say words correctly, but she simply could not hear the difference! Regards Peter Oh, I'm quite sure she could. Say rather, that she would not allow her husband to correct her like a child. My wife persists in leaving the first T out of "densitometry

RE: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread Williams, Jim
ignored! Jim W. -Original Message- From: Christopher BJ Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 13-Sep-03 8:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls At 8:44 AM -0400

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread Peter Taylor
Lawrence Yates writes: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>So tell me then why it is okay to mispronounce Greenwich as gren-itch? >because Gren-itch is the correct pronunciation, it's not a mis-pronunciation. >Green-itch is a mispronunciation. (I'm speaking of courser of Greenwich in England - if >the

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Title: Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls At 8:44 AM -0400 9/13/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only slightly off-topic here on the pronunciation list, I've just been sent this one: "Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't  mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread Craig Parmerlee
At 07:45 AM 9/13/2003 -0400, David H. Bailey wrote: So tell me then why it is okay to mispronounce Greenwich as gren-itch? If some mispronunciation is alright in the English language, why is it alright to come down so hard on other mispronunciation? We're going through a period where a very rece

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Only slightly off-topic here on the pronunciation list, I've just been sent this one: "Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't  mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toa

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 13/09/2003 12:47:03 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So tell me then why it is okay to mispronounce Greenwich as gren-itch? because Gren-itch is the correct pronunciation, it's not a mis-pronunciation. Green-itch is a mispronunciation. (I'm speaking of courser of

Re: [Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-13 Thread David H. Bailey
So tell me then why it is okay to mispronounce Greenwich as gren-itch? If some mispronunciation is alright in the English language, why is it alright to come down so hard on other mispronunciation? We're going through a period where a very recent word is settling into the common language and fi

[Finale] Nukey-ler mus-kulls

2003-09-12 Thread Craig Parmerlee
At 05:47 PM 9/12/2003 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: At 10:02 AM 09/12/03, Andrew Stiller wrote: Also circular, muscular, crepuscular, avuncular, testicular, and no doubt more than we're both forgetting. When Popeye mispronounces muscles as "mus-kulls", it is a good laugh. I don't find it at all funny