Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-11 Thread Peter Castine
>Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:27:34 -0400 >From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >At 07:56 PM 7/10/02 +0200, Peter Castine wrote: [schnipp] >>I prefer Cycling 74's practice [schnipp] > >Why do you love these fascist companies? More English 101: "prefer" is not synonymous with "love". Ple

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:56 PM 7/10/02 +0200, Peter Castine wrote: >To those wishing to cite Coda as a counter-example: for years Finale had >a very effective copy-protection in the form of its manual. Not >unbreakable, but inconvenient for pirates while convenient and even >helpful for license-holders. The CD fo

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
>If you want a closer analogy, it's as if they hold >the keys to my house, and every time I add a room or rebuild the bedroom or >even replace the water pump -- having done that a few days ago, I'm a bit >touchy about it :) -- I have to call up the original contrator to get new >keys to my house,

Fwd: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-10 Thread Alan Smith
You have mistaken my tone, David: I agree with you!! This number ballet is fraught with dangers. (And no, I don't believe you can still use a floppy to do this) Alan Smith On Wednesday, July 10, 2002, at 11:29 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > Okay, so the exact mechanism isn't a floppy all the

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-10 Thread Peter Castine
>Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:31:11 -0400 >From: Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > When passenger screening >was first instituted at airports, back in the '70s, I swore I'd never >fly again. Even wrote my congressman. Guess how many months that >res

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:31 AM 7/10/02 -0400, Andrew Stiller wrote: >it must >be pointed out that the objection applies with equal force to every >manner of lock or barrier whatsoever: What!? I can't go through this >door without securing your approval in advance and obtaining the >proper "key"? You're treating

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-10 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
> >I have always been philosophically opposed to protection because it treats > >me as if I were a criminal -- guilty until proven innocent by the my ID > While there is nothing inherently wrong w. this philosophy, it must > be pointed out that the objection applies with equal force to every > m

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
> >I have always been philosophically opposed to protection because it treats >me as if I were a criminal -- guilty until proven innocent by the my ID >papers. My government can't do this, so why should some collection of >corporate dumbbunnies get to do it? >... >Cheerfully, >Dennis > While ther

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-10 Thread David H. Bailey
Alan Smith wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 9, 2002, at 10:52 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: > >> And when your computer crashes and you haven't "removed" the enabling >> code, do they simply give you an additional code to activate it on >> your new machine, no questions asked? And how about using

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-09 Thread Alan Smith
On Tuesday, July 9, 2002, at 10:52 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: > And when your computer crashes and you haven't "removed" the enabling > code, do they simply give you an additional code to activate it on your > new machine, no questions asked? And how about using it on a notebook > AND a desk

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:07 AM 7/10/02 +0900, you wrote: >My impression is that they are very easy >to work with. And when they are out of business? They will be, of course. Then where will your years of work be? And, as I said, what about your archivists, correspondents, or clients? You're a composer; I'm a compo

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:30 AM 7/10/02 +0900, Richard Walker wrote: >What's the big deal? You go to their web page, input your information and >get the magic number that opens up the program. It's not that onerous, and >it's not nearly as ugly, say, as the dongle that Logic makes you attach >before it will work. I

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-09 Thread Richard Walker
What's the big deal? You go to their web page, input your information and get the magic number that opens up the program. It's not that onerous, and it's not nearly as ugly, say, as the dongle that Logic makes you attach before it will work. Granted, you can't easily give the software to all of yo

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:44 PM 7/9/02 -0400, David H. Bailey wrote: >Anybody else want to deal with their piracy-prevention scheme? Not me! > No matter what the price! Absolutely never. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-09 Thread Doug Auwarter
on 7/9/02 12:44 PM, David H. Bailey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anybody else want to deal with their piracy-prevention scheme? Not me! > No matter what the price! I completely agree. That's a complete showstopper! Doug ___ Finale mailing list [EMAI

Re: [Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-09 Thread David H. Bailey
Anybody else want to deal with their piracy-prevention scheme? Not me! No matter what the price! William Roberts wrote: > Apropos of the discussion earlier today about the dreaded "S" word, has anybody >heard about their new cross-grade offer? Cross-grade from any version of Finale or >

[Finale] The "S" word again

2002-07-09 Thread William Roberts
Apropos of the discussion earlier today about the dreaded "S" word, has anybody heard about their new cross-grade offer? Cross-grade from any version of Finale or Encore to Sibelius for $179... pretty keen deal. My dealer told me about this yesterday. I've not upgraded to Finale 2003 yet, an