Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 09:41 PM 11/19/04 -0600, you wrote:
that the user's manual / on-line documentation, instead of in ~.pdf
format, was in HTML. Bane or blessing?
As one who created several HTML software manuals, I can say PLEASE put the
manual in HTML format and dump the PDF. PDF is
Richard Yates wrote:
I am not a programmer, but does this make any sense? Regardless of how
complex the program is, the end printed result is from font characters and
defined shapes. That does not seem more complex to do from one program to
another.
Yes, this doesn't make sense at all! It seems lik
On Nov 20, 2004, at 12:00 AM, d. collins wrote:
The OED disagrees with you: [...]
No, it doesn't.
So does the AHD: [...]
No, it doesn't.
You have missed my point entirely. I was not arguing that your
dictionary of choice will list the accentless spelling as its spelling
of choice. I was arguing
d. collins wrote:
Just received confirmation from MM that this feature doesn't work with
Windows 2000 or XP, but that it "should" work with Win98.
If they have confirmed that it should work on Win98, they should give
you the required steps to get it to work!
It's amazing that they know about the
d. collins wrote:
That means you have to have some kind of search engine on your computer,
which is not the case for everyone.
Acrobat Search is available in Acrobat Reader.
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
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Jari's responded to my proposal of converting the Finale user manual
from ~.pdf to ~.htm format by writing
That means you have to have some kind of search engine on your
computer, which is not the case for everyone.
Acrobat Search is available in Acrobat Reader.
to which Dennis responded
Yes,
Without really wanting to take sides on this, I would like to note that
I have various user manuals in electronic form, both in PDF and HTML
formats. My personal preference is definitely PDF. I find this much
easier to handle when searching for certain words, and I prefer to have
something in a
At 9:41 pm -0600 11/19/04, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
that the user's manual / on-line documentation, instead of in ~.pdf
format, was in HTML. Bane or blessing?
Please ... NO !
My response to this is right out of a 1930s vampire movie: I hold my
cross up to the monster, avert my eyes and pray.
PD
Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
>What prompted
> me to consider the idea, was observing that a manual for another
> package, which was longer than the Finale User manual, with about the
> same number of links, loaded the browser and the manual much more
> quickly than the user manual loads in Finale.
>
>
As an experiment, using Acrobat Professional 6.0 I saved the Finale User
Manual Index as an HTML file. The result, unfortunately, was far less than
useful. Line feeds in the pdf document (not surprisingly) were not respected
in HTML. The internal Acrobat cross references were lost too. For example,
>"Viola", on the other hand, is just plain wrong no matter what.<
On the contrary, I have seen it used many times to mean a musical pun on the
original French word. This is one of many ways by which words move from one
language to another. (check out the French word 'vasisdas' for an
interesting e
Well, I have other priorities, I must admit, I'd rather have them fix
EPS for example. I, for one, do not need, nor want a HTML manual. It
would be completely useless to me. I really do not see any advantage in
having both.
Johannes
d. collins wrote:
Johannes Gebauer écrit:
Without really wanti
Richard Yates wrote:
While in theory it seems like an easy
feature to implement, since other programs have done it, in practice it is
not as simple. Finale is a complex program when compared to most others
and
requires more complex programming solutions.
I am not a programmer, but does this make
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 09:41 PM 11/19/04 -0600, you wrote:
that the user's manual / on-line documentation, instead of in ~.pdf
format, was in HTML. Bane or blessing?
As one who created several HTML software manuals, I can say PLEASE put the
manual in HTML format and dump the PDF. PDF is
Mark D Lew wrote:
"Viola", on the other hand, is just plain wrong
no matter what.
Now, now, now -- I've conducted some orchestras where the violas weren't
wrong. ;-)
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In a message dated 20/11/2004 13:23:39 GMT Standard Time,
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Now,
now, now -- I've conducted some orchestras where the violas weren't
wrong. ;-)
You mean everybody else was a beat and a semitone out?
All the best,
Lawrence
"þaes
ofereode - þisses swa
At 09:03 AM 11/20/04 +0100, Jari Williamsson wrote:
>The only thing that isn't easy to do is to make additions/corrections to
>the existing pages in the on-line manual (but that isn't probably
>allowed anyway, so...).
Isn't allowed? If it's HTML, you just make the changes. There's no PDF nanny.
And I thought Viola was an instrument slightly bigger than a violin, and
the word originated in Italian. I think there is a point to be made
about Viola-_players_ being wrong, but then we probably don't want to
get into this.
BTW, I have a slight feeling of Deja-Vu here (please don't start on t
Lucky you...;-)
(Sorry Violas, I couldn't resist...)
Johannes
dhbailey wrote:
Mark D Lew wrote:
"Viola", on the other hand, is just plain wrong no matter what.
Now, now, now -- I've conducted some orchestras where the violas weren't
wrong. ;-)
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Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
Jari's responded to my proposal of converting the Finale user manual
from ~.pdf to ~.htm format by writing
That means you have to have some kind of search engine on your
computer, which is not the case for everyone.
Acrobat Search is available in Acrobat Reader.
to whi
True, but I don't want to change them either. In fact I doN't think MM
would even consider making html manuals, if this was the only reason for
having them.
YMMV,
Johannes
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 11:24 AM 11/20/04 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
What was the disadvantage of PDF manuals aga
d. collins wrote:
Johannes Gebauer écrit:
Without really wanting to take sides on this, I would like to note
that I have various user manuals in electronic form, both in PDF and
HTML formats. My personal preference is definitely PDF. I find this
much easier to handle when searching for certain w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 20/11/2004 13:23:39 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now, now, now -- I've conducted some orchestras where the violas
weren't
wrong. ;-)
You mean everybody else was a beat and a semitone out?
When you've got a 250-pound, ex-fo
At 8:44 AM -0500 11/20/04, dhbailey wrote:
>When you've got a 250-pound, ex-football player playing viola glaring at
>you when the piece falls apart, yes, certainly it was the other 45
>members of the orchestra who were out? Wouldn't you agree? :-)
No, it wouldn't matter because she wouldn't un
At 02:41 PM 11/20/04 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>True, but I don't want to change them either. In fact I doN't think MM
>would even consider making html manuals, if this was the only reason for
>having them.
Since this started as a hypothetical, I'll leave MM way out of it. :)
To add to
I'm trying to enter a number of vertical lines indicating rhythmic
alignments at certain points on a fairly complex score. Is there any
way to force them to be vertical, as there is horizontal? (FinWin 2k3)
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At 03:16 PM 11/20/04 +, Owain Sutton wrote:
>I'm trying to enter a number of vertical lines indicating rhythmic
>alignments at certain points on a fairly complex score. Is there any
>way to force them to be vertical, as there is horizontal? (FinWin 2k3)
If you mean the smart shape, I don't
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
If you mean the smart shape, I don't know how to make it be vertical (I'm
also on FinWin 2K3). I always create a vertical line in the shape designer,
and place that using a metatool so I can adjust the size of each one.
You can also use the barline character, and if th
Hi Chuck,
I don't yet fully understand the newer features of the tuplet tool, as I
recently upgraded from finmac 2002, but I entered a q-note triplet (treble
clef in the staff , D D B) in the score I'm working on and experimented:
-- stem/beam side selected, allow horiz. drag checked - tuplet is
Use a custom line. It can go in any direction you wish.
BF
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Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>
At 10:16 AM 11/20/2004, Owain Sutton wrote:
>I'm trying to enter a number of vertical lines indicating rhythmic
>alignments at certain points on a fairly complex score. Is there any
>way to force them to be vertical, as there is horizontal? (FinWin 2k3)
Select the Smart Shape tool, and then the
Hmmm, I'm learning a lot about this stuff. I was just about to try
using a CD-RW to back up a variety of files. It might work for simple
retrieval, I assume.
Dean
On Nov 19, 2004, at 3:36 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Actually, even on a CD-RW it is not normally possible to remove or
change fil
Owain Sutton wrote:
I'm trying to enter a number of vertical lines indicating rhythmic
alignments at certain points on a fairly complex score. Is there any
way to force them to be vertical, as there is horizontal? (FinWin 2k3)
Not so far as I'm aware. I use the same trick, defining smart-shap
The \ key in the maestro font produces a vertical line. You can vary
it's length by means of varying the point size.
GR
Owain Sutton wrote:
I'm trying to enter a number of vertical lines indicating rhythmic
alignments at certain points on a fairly complex score. Is there any
way to force them
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
To add to the rhetoricals & hypotheticals... How do you make notes in your
manual?
I don't. And I wouldn't either in html. Simply, because it's far to
complicated.
Johannes
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Burt Fenner wrote:
> Use a custom line. It can go in any direction you wish.
>
> BF
That's what I'm doing - I want a way to *stop* it going in any
direction, and constrain it to vertical!
Aaron Sherber wrote:
> Select the Smart Shape tool, and then the Line Tool. Hold down the shift
> key as yo
At 02:45 PM 11/20/2004, Owain Sutton wrote:
>I have always work with "automatically constrain dragging" enabled, but
>it doesn't seem to apply to custom lines.
It does for me, in WinFin2004 -- either the auto setting in Program
Options, or holding down shift while double-clicking and dragging. (O
Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 02:45 PM 11/20/2004, Owain Sutton wrote:
>I have always work with "automatically constrain dragging" enabled, but
>it doesn't seem to apply to custom lines.
It does for me, in WinFin2004 -- either the auto setting in Program
Options, or holding down shift while double-c
On Nov 20, 2004, at 1:20 AM, d. collins wrote:
there is also an acceptable English word derived from that French
word, and the English version is spelled "voila",
This is the point on which the OED disagrees with you, since it spells
the word with an accent (voilà) and doesn't even mention your "
Hello everyone,
First time poster here.
Lurking for a while to check this list out, and was surprised with the
volume of its traffic. I myself am an admin for one of the DAW hardware
user groups, and trying to catch up reading here. English is not my
native language so please forgive me.
It is
Richard Yates / 04.11.19 / 10:05PM wrote:
>I am not a programmer, but does this make any sense? Regardless of how
>complex the program is, the end printed result is from font characters and
>defined shapes. That does not seem more complex to do from one program to
>another.
I am a Mac user. Stil
> PS. It seems the majority of this list is Win user?
> - Hiro
Hello Hiro, Welcome to the list. There has never been a census of Mac and
Windows users here. There seem to be many of both.
Richard Yates
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Uh, that's really weird. The Finale 2005 CD mounts just fine in most
older Macs, including mine. I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't
work in your PowerBook. Is there anything about this in Coda's online
forum?
- Darcy
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Richard Yates / 04.11.20 / 4:12PM wrote:
>Hello Hiro, Welcome to the list. There has never been a census of Mac and
>Windows users here. There seem to be many of both.
Thank you for the comment :-)
To be honest, I have had this bitter taste in my mouth, that Finale has
been much buggier than it
Darcy James Argue / 04.11.20 / 4:37PM wrote:
>Uh, that's really weird. The Finale 2005 CD mounts just fine in most
>older Macs, including mine. I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't
>work in your PowerBook. Is there anything about this in Coda's online
>forum?
Jumping in...
This might o
On Nov 20, 2004, at 12:57 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
PS. It seems the majority of this list is Win user?
I would guess that the PC-to-Mac ratio here is greater than 1:1, but
still far less than the ratio in the computer world at large.
mdl
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Click on the triangle next to hardware (if the list of your hardware
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your hard drive and CD drive listed. Is your machine seeing the CD
in
It might. However, my experience with CD-RW is not exactly a very good
one. They seem to degrade after a while, and I do not consider them a
safe backup medium. Use CD-Rs instead, and make duplicates, even CD-Rs
fail (especially if you scratch them, and that happens more easily than
one might a
A-NO-NE Music wrote:
PS. It seems the majority of this list is Win user?
Probably (I would guess on a ratio about 60-40), but there are quite a
few Mac users, too, including myself.
Johannes
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A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Speaking of Postscript issue, 2k4 Mac versions throughout had text
underline printing problem when output to Postscript, and was surprised
it was never fixed with consequent patches. Was there workaround to it?
I know 2k5 fixed it, but I still need to use 2k4 since most of m
I know this has been discussed in the past, but unless I'm missing
something, searching the archives of this news list is not practical. I'm
looking for suggested techniques for using large format meters as found in
many contemporary scores, rather than a normal-size meter on every staff.
Part ext
Hm again. I kind of thought CD's were more or less indestructable
... guess not. However, I did, in fact, copy all of my Fin files to a
CD-RW awhile ago, and some other non-musical stuff. At least with the
later, I could open and close the files fine, and edit them. I didn't
try to erase a
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 15:58:24 -0800, Lee Actor wrote:
> I know this has been discussed in the past, but unless I'm missing
> something, searching the archives of this news list is not practical.
You can do a Google search with "site:shsu.edu finale [insert your
list search terms here]" in order to
There's only two kind of people on this planet, Mac users and those
who cry and pray to become Mac users...
;-)
GR
A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Richard Yates / 04.11.20 / 4:12PM wrote:
Hello Hiro, Welcome to the list. There has never been a census of Mac and
Windows users here. There s
Godofredo Romero wrote:
There's only two kind of people on this planet, Mac users and those who
cry and pray to become Mac users... ;-)
GR
Heh. A nice thought, but not true. I like Macs for some things, but
prefer PC's for others.
There's room for everyone here.
cd
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> cry and pray to become Mac users... ;-)
There's only two kind of people on this planet, Win users and those who
always
have to rebuild the desktop and disable extensions (whatever those mean).
RY
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:36:44 -0800, Richard Yates
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> > There's only two kind of people on this planet, Mac users and those who
> > cry and pray to become Mac users... ;-)
>
> There's only two kind of people on this planet, Win users and those who
> always have to rebuil
At 01:00 PM 11/20/04 -0500, you wrote:
>Select the Smart Shape tool, and then the Line Tool. Hold down the shift
>key as you double-click and drag -- this will constrain the line to be
>either horizontal or vertical, depending on which direction you start
>dragging in.
Ah, my fault. I'd miscons
Dean M. Estabrook / 04.11.20 / 6:58PM wrote:
>Hm again. I kind of thought CD's were more or less indestructable
>... guess not. However, I did, in fact, copy all of my Fin files to a
>CD-RW awhile ago, and some other non-musical stuff. At least with the
>later, I could open and close the fi
At 09:38 PM 11/20/04 -0500, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
>And if you don't have 3 copies to 3 different locations, you don't call
>it backup. I learned in a hard way :-)
The whole issue of backup is already a nightmare, enough of one that even
the New York Times covered it last week.
Even if your backup
At 08:11 PM 11/20/2004, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>Ah, my fault. I'd misconstrued the line and the bracket. The smart bracket
>is the one I can't get to go vertically because it loses its arms.
Hmmm. If I use the Custom Line Tool to create my own bracket (Line Style
solid, with a Start hook and
Brian Williams writes:
For some strange reason, the hybrid Mac/Windows Finale 2005 CD-ROM will not
work in most if not all Mac Titanium G4 PowerBooks!
In 6/2001, I purchased a newly-released 800 MHz G4 Titanium PowerBook. This
is now considered an "older PowerBook G4 model" which Finale Tech Suppor
Hola Hiro,
Mac here also. PC´s and TV are not used at home.
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On Nov 20, 2004, at 2:36 AM, Mark D Lew wrote:
"Viola", on the other hand, is just plain wrong no matter what.
No it isn't. I use it as a cuss word all the time. 8-)
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On Nov 20, 2004, at 7:36 PM, Richard Yates wrote:
There's only two kind of people on this planet, Win users and those
who
always
have to rebuild the desktop and disable extensions (whatever those
mean).
RY
Ooh, that's SO last operating system!
If you're going to spank Mac owners, at least use
Can anyone reproduce this bug?
1. In FinMac 2005 or 2005a (and I've seen it in 2004 as well) open a
file created in 2003 or earlier and create a few text blocks with plain
text in them. Just for good luck, try a few diacriticals on a couple of
letters, as I suspect an OS problem with diacritical
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