Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Randall Stokes schrieb: I have spent much of that time deep within the bowels of Finale. So you don't always see much of my work on the surface, but Finale is faster and more stable as a result of it. Much of this will provide a foundation for future growth. Things coming down the pike like

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:47 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Maybe fifteen years ago I first heard blows meaning bad. It was around the time that the expression blowing chunks (for throwing up) gained popularity, and often the two were interchanged. That team blows chunks! would be freely

[Finale] Finale Sondfont and GPO, but not at the same time? (was Makemusic's reply to my

2005-07-16 Thread Colin Broom
Am I understanding the conversation between Darcy and David correctly? Is it the case that in the upcoming version of Finale that the soundfont and GPO sounds can't be used at the same time? I was assuming that GPO would work as simply another of the devices in Finale, and one would be able

Re: [Finale] Finale Sondfont and GPO, but not at the same time? (was Makemusic's reply to my

2005-07-16 Thread dhbailey
Colin Broom wrote: Am I understanding the conversation between Darcy and David correctly? Is it the case that in the upcoming version of Finale that the soundfont and GPO sounds can't be used at the same time? I was assuming that GPO would work as simply another of the devices in Finale,

Re: [Finale] Finale Sondfont and GPO, but not at the same time? (was Makemusic's reply to my

2005-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Well, currently there may be one workaround as far as Macs are concerned. You can use GPO Studio plus a soundfont MIDI player (I think Quicktime has such functionality, but I am not sure). However, I have not tried this, and I am not sure how well these two can share one Audio output. Colin

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Ken Durling
At 01:17 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote: I'm pretty sure there *is* a connection between phat and fat. The acronymic etymologies are all fallacious. Like as in a fat bankroll or paycheck. Ken ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Crystal Premo
I am getting just the end of this, so forgive me if this has been stated, but phat means pretty hot and tempting. Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ken Durling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T. Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Ken Durling
At 05:47 AM 7/15/2005, you wrote: Showing up farther down the list doesn't mean much, I think. Context determines meaning. Remember Lenny Bruce's schtick on What I don't understand is why saying 'F%$# You' is a BAD thing?? Ken ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Joel Sears
Wow! That's the first time I've heard that. There's a band on the West Cost called Big Phat Band, I just thought they were being cute. Joel Sears On Jul 16, 2005, at 8:45 AM, Crystal Premo wrote: I am getting just the end of this, so forgive me if this has been stated, but phat means

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-16 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 15, 2005, at 9:32 PM, Ken Durling wrote: Andrew - That's easy too - just use the key below the one mentioned earlier - the key for the number 8. I give up. I know there was a legitimate problem, because I spent a long time futzing with it, manual in hand, and ended up calling

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread kdurling
I don't believe it. It sounds like something one of the white characters in Undercover Brother would say. Pretty hot and tempting?? Seriously. :-\ Ken Wow! That's the first time I've heard that. There's a band on the West Cost called Big Phat Band, I just thought they were being cute.

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jul 16, 2005, at 7:06 AM, Ken Durling wrote: At 05:47 AM 7/15/2005, you wrote: Showing up farther down the list doesn't mean much, I think. Context determines meaning. Remember Lenny Bruce's schtick on What I don't understand is why saying 'F%$# You' is a BAD thing?? Ken _ I

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread kdurling
Now that is a cool thing to have on your resume, Chuck. That's great. Ken Remember Lenny Bruce's schtick on What I don't understand is why saying 'F%$# You' is a BAD thing?? Ken _ I certainly do. I spent 6 weeks working opposite him at the Village Vanguard some (how many!?) years

Re: [Finale] Finale Sondfont and GPO, but not at the same time? (was Makemusic's reply to my

2005-07-16 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Colin Broom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I understanding the conversation between Darcy and David correctly? Is it the case that in the upcoming version of Finale that the soundfont and GPO sounds can't be used at the same time? I was assuming that GPO would work as simply

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-16 Thread Tyler Turner
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all of the hoopla about no saxes in GPO, If I remember correctly the Kontakt player that will be part of Finale 2006 will be able to load any NI Samples. Since the sounds that ship with Sibelius play thru their Kompakt player, I wonder if the

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Ken Durling
At 09:41 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote: Enough on this OT topic from me today. Just intrigued that others are interested in some of this arcane history. Thank you kindly for sharing those reflections, Chuck. I'm sure I could listen to your stories for hours! You've known and worked with some

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jul 16, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Ken Durling wrote: At 09:41 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote: Enough on this OT topic from me today. Just intrigued that others are interested in some of this arcane history. Thank you kindly for sharing those reflections, Chuck. I'm sure I could listen to your

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that is a cool thing to have on your resume, Chuck. That's great. Ken Remember Lenny Bruce's schtick on What I don't understand is why saying 'F%$# You' is a BAD thing?? Ken _ I certainly do. I spent 6 weeks working opposite him at the Village

Re: [Finale] Finale Sondfont and GPO, but not at the same time? (was Makemusic's reply to my

2005-07-16 Thread dhbailey
Raymond Horton wrote: Why wouldn't one be able to? I can use GPO and the Finale sound font simultaneously on WinFin2005, although the Finale sound font will not record into the GPO recorder (which makes sense, I suppose). After all the complaining about WHAT! - NO SAXOPHONES, I just was

Re: [Finale] Finale Sondfont and GPO, but not at the same time? (was Makemusic's reply to my

2005-07-16 Thread dhbailey
Raymond Horton wrote: Why wouldn't one be able to? I can use GPO and the Finale sound font simultaneously on WinFin2005, although the Finale sound font will not record into the GPO recorder (which makes sense, I suppose). After all the complaining about WHAT! - NO SAXOPHONES, I just was

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-16 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all of the hoopla about no saxes in GPO, If I remember correctly the Kontakt player that will be part of Finale 2006 will be able to load any NI Samples. Since the sounds that ship with Sibelius play thru their Kompakt player, I wonder if the Sibelius sounds

[Finale] GPO and string harmonics

2005-07-16 Thread David Froom
I am a longtime Finale user and a relatively new GPO user. Does any one have any ideas about a good way to get string harmonics sounds in GPO? I am writing something for flute and string orchestra and need a decent string harmonic sound. Thanks in advance, David Froom

Re: [Finale] GPO and string harmonics

2005-07-16 Thread Darcy James Argue
GPO does not include string harmonics. You can, however, use TGTools to set up the correct notes for playback. They won't sound like harmonics, though, just regular pitches. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 16 Jul 2005, at 3:12 PM, David Froom wrote: I am a longtime Finale

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Darcy James Argue
That's almost certainly a joke made up for the movie. Really, the transition from a fat beat to a phat beat doesn't require an elaborate alternative explanation. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 16 Jul 2005, at 4:24 PM, Crystal Premo wrote: True, nevertheless. As a matter

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-16 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
And again, I say, Amen!! Dean On Jul 16, 2005, at 9:19 AM, Technoid wrote: On 7/15/05, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 4:21 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I'm really having a great deal of trouble trying to figure out what you saw in the above that you felt

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Crystal Premo
I'm quite sure that the pretty hot and tempting explanation is not a fantasy. Both my teenagers consider it common knowledge. They rolled their eyes at me with impatience when I asked just now. Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:56 PM 07/16/2005, Crystal Premo wrote: I'm quite sure that the pretty hot and tempting explanation is not a fantasy. Both my teenagers consider it common knowledge. They rolled their eyes at me with impatience when I asked just now. See http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorp.htm#phat There

[Finale] Re: Sibelius compared to Finale

2005-07-16 Thread Kim Richmond
Dear members of both Lists, I am a LONG time user of Finale. I'm coming to the quick (maybe too hasty, after learning/using Sibelius for only a few weeks?) conclusion, that while it's a wonderful program able to get quick quality results, it does not have the flexibility that Finale

Re: [Finale] GPO and string harmonics

2005-07-16 Thread Raymond Horton
David Froom wrote: I am a longtime Finale user and a relatively new GPO user. Does any one have any ideas about a good way to get string harmonics sounds in GPO? I am writing something for flute and string orchestra and need a decent string harmonic sound. Thanks in advance, David Froom

RE: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread keith helgesen
I think I agree with you! After all, (to sail VERY close to the wind), the assertion is around that the acronym for File Under Carnal Knowledge used to be placed on Police files- thus creating the slang term for- well, you know! I suspect that story is a load of rubbish! Cheers K Keith

RE: [Finale] Blowing O.T.

2005-07-16 Thread Ken Durling
As long as we're talking about slang superlatives, I'd like to hear some theories about where fly came from or how it came to mean what it does. I was surprised to read that it was in usage in the 30's - in Duke's Music is my Mistress with much the same meaning (fly girl) as it has now, or