Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-04 Thread Aaron Rabushka
Yep, theory homework is one animal, real music is another. I do remember something (probably from Hindemith's harmony book) about it's being permissible to double the third of a minor triad whereas it was forbidden to double the third of a major triad. I remember being ecstatic at discovering chez

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-04 Thread Aaron Rabushka
The "no doubling of the leading note" comes from the necessity of the leading tone to go straight up to the tonic. Therefor, a doubled leading tone would result in parallel octaves. Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk - Original Message - From: "A-NO-NE M

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread shirling & neueweise
MP3 is not a excellent sound product and even the smallest is too big file wise. Why they are so popular? Because they are the most convenient. Downloading DVD's is in the not too distant future. Musically-- that's mega quality. Who will care about an mp3 file then? yes but according to

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread Gerald Berg
Yes MP3 is not a excellent sound product and even the smallest is too big file wise. Why they are so popular? Because they are the most convenient. Downloading DVD's is in the not too distant future. Musically-- that's mega quality. Who will care about an mp3 file then? For now, conveni

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-04 Thread Chuck Israels
Seems to me that the reason for the more welcome sound of a doubled minor third rather than a doubled major third is that the major third is already so strong in the harmonic series of the root, and the minor third is not. This provides some explanation of the doubled third in a first inve

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 4, 2007, at 8:11 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Sorry for OT question, but I can't think of any better place to ask this. Kinda embarrassed to ask. Please go easy on me. I did google around but couldn't find anything helpful. I remember, in traditional harmony, you are not supposed to d

Re: [Finale] Page Layout Oddity

2007-02-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 4, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Ken Moore wrote: Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You have to be on the FIRST of the two pages when updating layout, as Update Layout only works from the page you are on until the end. I suspect that you are on the second of the two > pages when yo

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 4, 2007, at 8:27 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 08:11 PM 2/4/2007 -0500, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I remember, in traditional harmony, you are not supposed to double the 3rd, but I don't remember what is the reason for this. The traditional reason is that the color of the third is so

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:11 PM 2/4/2007 -0500, A-NO-NE Music wrote: >I remember, in traditional harmony, you are not supposed to double the >3rd, but I don't remember what is the reason for this. The traditional reason is that the color of the third is so strong that doubling it creates an ugly balance. On the other

[Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-04 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Sorry for OT question, but I can't think of any better place to ask this. Kinda embarrassed to ask. Please go easy on me. I did google around but couldn't find anything helpful. I remember, in traditional harmony, you are not supposed to double the 3rd, but I don't remember what is the reason f

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Andrew Stiller / 2007/02/03 / 04:02 PM wrote: >I'm sure there must be a way to post an MP3 file to the web such that >those accessing it can only listen to it as streaming audio and not be >able to download it. How do I do that? You can use Flash shell on mp3. Here,

Re: [Finale] Page Layout Oddity

2007-02-04 Thread Ken Moore
Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You have to be on the FIRST of the two pages when updating layout, as Update Layout only works from the page you are on until the end. I suspect that you are on the second of the two > pages when you do it, which of course will do nothing to the fir

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread shirling & neueweise
i too find 192 the minimum for listening (128 i find actually painful to listen to for more than brief periods), but it depends on your intentions with the mp3s. if there is a link beside the mp3 link to buy the album (for example), then 128 (or even lower) as only an example of the artist's

Re: [Finale] Changing the key for an orchestral part.

2007-02-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 4, 2007, at 3:35 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: There is a handy alert box that pops up if you ever attempt to print with Display In Concert Pitch on, so you don't even have to remember that part! only since 2007, no? I have it FinMac 2006c Christopher _

RE: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Feb 2007 at 14:22, Lee Actor wrote: > As with anything else, if you want to work even > semi-seriously with audio, you need decent tools -- reading and > writing different file formats, encoders with bit rate options, some > kind of minimal editing, etc. Audacity is a remarkably complete and

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Feb 2007 at 16:51, Andrew Stiller wrote: > I can probably get AIFF files straight from the composer in this > case--but tell me about Audacity anyway. Sounds useful. Audacity opens AIFF files. Just Google it and download it. It's free, and it's very, very good. > BTW, I was surprised at

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Feb 2007 at 16:14, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > On 2/4/07, dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anything which can make it to the soundcard can be recorded, so > > preventing the actual downloading of an audio file won't prevent > > people from pirating it. > > That's very true, > > But Vi

RE: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread Lee Actor
> BTW, I was surprised at how big the MP3 files were for the movements of > a piano trio--6 MB each, on the average. I thought the big advantage > of MP3 was its compactness. > > Andrew Stiller It depends on the data rate the files were encoded at. There's a tradeoff between sound quality and f

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On 2/4/07, dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anything which can make it to the soundcard can be recorded, so preventing the actual downloading of an audio file won't prevent people from pirating it. That's very true, But Vista was going to prevent capturing sound via this method, but the h

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 4, 2007, at 2:06 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Feb 2007 at 13:51, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Feb 3, 2007, at 4:07 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I think you need to convert it to a streaming-only format, like the one used by RealPlayer. Actually, I do have RealAudio Encoder 3.1, whic

Re: [Finale] 1st/2nd endings...after you have the "perfect" repeat symbols

2007-02-04 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:35 PM 2/4/2007, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: >Now that I have (very hopefully) the "perfect" 1st and 2nd ending in a >part file, I don't have to tweak all the other instances in the other >parts, what would I do to just insert those? I've tried saving the >"shapes" library, and reload this into a

Re: [Finale] 1st/2nd endings...after you have the "perfect" repeat symbols

2007-02-04 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:35 PM 2/4/2007, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: >Now that I have (very hopefully) the "perfect" 1st and 2nd ending in a >part file, I don't have to tweak all the other instances in the other >parts, what would I do to just insert those?  Oh, wait, sorry. You've already got parts extracted to diffe

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Feb 2007 at 15:44, dhbailey wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: > > On 3 Feb 2007 at 16:02, Andrew Stiller wrote: > > > >> I'm sure there must be a way to post an MP3 file to the web such > >> that those accessing it can only listen to it as streaming audio > >> and not be able to download it. H

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: I think you need to convert it to a streaming-only format, like the one used by RealPlayer. and even then, anybody who wants the file can simply turn on an audio recording/editing program such as the freeware Audacity, set it to record what the soundcard hears and t

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 3 Feb 2007 at 16:02, Andrew Stiller wrote: I'm sure there must be a way to post an MP3 file to the web such that those accessing it can only listen to it as streaming audio and not be able to download it. How do I do that? Not in a way that can't be circumvented (jus

Re: [Finale] Changing the key for an orchestral part.

2007-02-04 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 04/02/2007 20:57:54 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >There is a handy alert box that pops up if you ever attempt to print >with Display In Concert Pitch on, so you don't even have to remember >that part! only since 2007, no? it's in 2006c It wasn't i

Re: [Finale] Changing the key for an orchestral part.

2007-02-04 Thread shirling & neueweise
There is a handy alert box that pops up if you ever attempt to print with Display In Concert Pitch on, so you don't even have to remember that part! only since 2007, no? -- shirling & neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com _

[Finale] 1st/2nd endings...after you have the "perfect" repeat symbols

2007-02-04 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Hi all: One last question: (and I appreciate your patience with me on these questions, I have a bit of a deadline and I'm having a wee bit of a Finale "meltdown" as it were). Now that I have (very hopefully) the "perfect" 1st and 2nd ending in a part file, I don't have to tweak all the other ins

Re: [Finale] Changing the key for an orchestral part.

2007-02-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 4, 2007, at 2:52 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Hi all: On Finale 2005, I've extracted my orchestral parts; and after spending much time on getting them looking the way I want them, I discovered that I didn't transpose my brass and timpani to their proper keys, but left them in C Major. I

[Finale] ot: Karen Guthery

2007-02-04 Thread Bob Florence
Hi all: Does anyone have an e mail address for Karen Guthery? You can answer privately. Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Changing the key for an orchestral part.

2007-02-04 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:52 PM 2/4/2007, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: >On Finale 2005, I've extracted my orchestral parts; and after spending >much time on getting them looking the way I want them, I discovered >that I didn't transpose my brass and timpani to their proper keys, but >left them in C Major. I did this becau

Re: [Finale] Changing the key for an orchestral part.

2007-02-04 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
You can do the same in the orchestral parts - select the staff tool, double click on the first bar in the part (I think any bar will do actually) which will take you to the staff attributes page - change the transposition as required (the transposition button is on the upper right in Win2006.

[Finale] Changing the key for an orchestral part.

2007-02-04 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Hi all: On Finale 2005, I've extracted my orchestral parts; and after spending much time on getting them looking the way I want them, I discovered that I didn't transpose my brass and timpani to their proper keys, but left them in C Major. I did this because it's easier to do proofing with the or

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Feb 2007 at 13:51, Andrew Stiller wrote: > On Feb 3, 2007, at 4:07 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > > > I think you need to convert it to a streaming-only format, like the > > one used by RealPlayer. > > Actually, I do have RealAudio Encoder 3.1, which I have used to set up > streaming audio

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-04 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 3, 2007, at 4:07 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I think you need to convert it to a streaming-only format, like the one used by RealPlayer. Actually, I do have RealAudio Encoder 3.1, which I have used to set up streaming audio for all past sound files at my website. Unfortunately, it

Re: [Finale] Vista (?)

2007-02-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 3 Feb 2007 at 16:36, Phil Daley wrote: > At 07:02 PM 2/2/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: > > >> But, since this was not a problem in XP, whose fault is it??? > > >It's the fault of the software maker for not updating the > application >to work in Vista. Or, your fault, if you've chosen to > i

[Finale] Re:DP quickscribe into Finale

2007-02-04 Thread John Hinchey
Hi Mark et al, As with anything, price is a point of view of how useful it is to you. I know people who think Finale is over priced but if you need the level of power that Finale provides opposed to Allegro, Printmusic or Notepad, you pay the price and are glad to do it. I recently used PDF

Re: [Finale] 4-bar repeat

2007-02-04 Thread Carl Dershem
Christopher Smith wrote: On 4-Feb-07, at 1:06 AM, Carl Dershem wrote: Has anyone any experience creating a function staff style for a 4- bar repeat symbol? I know it muct be possible, but Sorry to respond only in the negative, but I always changed the 4 bars to blank notation and added

Re: [Finale] 4-bar repeat

2007-02-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On 4-Feb-07, at 1:06 AM, Carl Dershem wrote: Has anyone any experience creating a function staff style for a 4- bar repeat symbol? I know it muct be possible, but Sorry to respond only in the negative, but I always changed the 4 bars to blank notation and added the 4-bar repeat as a measur

Re: [Finale] Page Layout Oddity

2007-02-04 Thread Ken Moore
Noel Stoutenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken Moore wrote: >> In my WinFin 2004 (under XP), optimisation in the Page Layout tool occasionally gives anomalous results. [...] I have tried update layout, but never seen it work; I think first thing I"d try is "Update Layout" on the Edit me

Re: [Finale] Page Layout Oddity

2007-02-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On 3-Feb-07, at 4:35 AM, Ken Moore wrote: In my WinFin 2004 (under XP), optimisation in the Page Layout tool occasionally gives anomalous results. I have a score in which I have used optimisation to reduce the number of page turns. With some adjustment of system spacings, I now have two