Re: [Finale] printing weirdness

2007-07-06 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jul 5, 2007, at 6:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/5/07 4:28:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FinMac2K7. I just updated a 3.7 file and added a blank page at the beginning so it could be printed as a booklet. With the blank page, there are 11

Re: [Finale] OT: Moravian trombone choir music - 18th century trombones

2007-07-06 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: [snip] I think that may depend heavily on who, exactly, you're talking about in the '80s. Symphony trombonists, and those training them, may indeed have thought in those terms, but it's a cinch that people in early music were not, since most of us are looking at baroque and

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread Eric Dannewitz
You'd think...but Yeah, I don't get it either. They use Sibelius for notation, but SmartMusic in class. I mean, they spend a LOT of time using that program in class. It is insane. I just wonder what evil exercises they'd put together if they realized that Finale can make

Re: [Finale] printing weirdness

2007-07-06 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 6, 2007, at 6:19 AM, dhbailey wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jul 5, 2007, at 6:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/5/07 4:28:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FinMac2K7. I just updated a 3.7 file and added a blank page at the beginning so it could be printed as a

Re: [Finale] printing weirdness

2007-07-06 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 6:19 AM, dhbailey wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jul 5, 2007, at 6:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/5/07 4:28:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FinMac2K7. I just updated a 3.7 file and added a blank page at the beginning so it

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:57 PM 7/6/2007, Christopher Smith wrote: were still present. Please, no more new features until you can get the meat-and-potatoes of the program working properly! Well said. I think many of us feel that way, and I'm surprised that Makemusic hasn't taken more notice. What gets

[Finale] my complaint letter version 2k8

2007-07-06 Thread Randolph Peters
Here are the relevant bits of the letter that I sent to Quality Assurance at MakeMusic with some of their previous reply interspersed. MakeMusic: We are aware of the Explode issue, which is limited in exposure to notes that have been manually flipped to an enharmonic. Running Respell Notes

Re: [Finale] printing weirdness

2007-07-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jul 2007 at 12:28, dhbailey wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 6:19 AM, dhbailey wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: [] As I said--or at least implied--in my initial posting, the pages are printing with each pair reversed, so that 1,1,2,11,10,3,4,9,8,5,6,7 prints as

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jul 2007 at 12:57, Christopher Smith wrote: 16. When new systems get created (say, you add measures to a piece), they don't have the same staff height as the previous systems. On linked parts, there is only one way to alter this, which is Page LayoutResize Staff System... (the zoom

[Finale] Re: OT: Moravian trombone choir music - 18th century

2007-07-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I haven't read the articles which Ray gave us links to, so perhaps this covered in there, but is there any sort of authentic instrument movement for the playing of Moravian trombone choir music? David H. Bailey David, You should investigate the activities within the Historic Brass Society,

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 6 Jul 2007 at 12:57, Christopher Smith wrote: 16. When new systems get created (say, you add measures to a piece), they don't have the same staff height as the previous systems. On linked parts, there is only one way to alter this, which

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jul 2007 at 19:38, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 6 Jul 2007 at 12:57, Christopher Smith wrote: 16. When new systems get created (say, you add measures to a piece), they don't have the same staff height as the previous systems. On

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread Christopher Smith
Hi all, I got answers back from Joe in tech support abut the bugs, some of which were very encouraging. #2 I didn't understand his explanation, as it seems to me that Bb transposition up a tone means just that for notes AND chord symbols. I told him that. He didn't reply to #7, 2-up

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 6, 2007, at 7:46 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 6 Jul 2007 at 19:38, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 6 Jul 2007 at 12:57, Christopher Smith wrote: 16. When new systems get created (say, you add measures to a piece), they don't have the

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jul 2007 at 20:13, Christopher Smith wrote: I got answers back from Joe in tech support abut the bugs, some of which were very encouraging. I think his answers were quite good, actually. Now, I think that it would be good to keep hitting them on the ones that he says are scheduled to

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:25 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Now, I think that it would be good to keep hitting them on the ones that he says are scheduled to be fixed, maybe three months from now, and ask if they are making progress on that. If multiple people did that, it would encourage them to get

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jul 2007 at 20:21, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 7:46 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 6 Jul 2007 at 19:38, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 6 Jul 2007 at 12:57, Christopher Smith wrote: 16. When new systems get

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jul 2007 at 20:27, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:25 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Now, I think that it would be good to keep hitting them on the ones that he says are scheduled to be fixed, maybe three months from now, and ask if they are making progress on that. If

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:29 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 6 Jul 2007 at 20:21, Christopher Smith wrote: I had a choral piece with 2 systems per page. The first page had the systems set at 67% to make extra room for the title, while succeeding pages were set at 75%. When I altered the layout to

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jul 2007 at 21:03, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:29 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 6 Jul 2007 at 20:21, Christopher Smith wrote: I had a choral piece with 2 systems per page. The first page had the systems set at 67% to make extra room for the title, while

[Finale] Chromatic Transposition chord symbol bug

2007-07-06 Thread Darcy James Argue
Joe from MM Customer Support wrote: 2. (Chord transposition) While this is the normal functionality of the program (as Finale does not make assumptions for how chords are to be redefined/spelled when transposed in a staff with no tonal center), feel free to submit a seperate case requesting

Re: [Finale] Potential bug warning

2007-07-06 Thread John Howell
We just learned about a potential bug in using Finale's Reference Manual (or whatever it's called) for 2k8, from Daniel Spreadbury on one of the Sibelius Lists. I'll let David Bailey explain it, since he seems to understand it and I'm not sure I do, but it seems that MakeMusic may have turned

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th - now 19th century trombones

2007-07-06 Thread Raymond Horton
Shifrin, through all his European research, has reached conclusions about the use of alto vs tenor trombone in much of the standard symphonic rep. (described in that dissertation to which I linked you). Indeed, alto trombone use dropped off in the latter half of the 19th century, but it is

Re: [Finale] OT: Moravian trombone choir music - 18th century trombones

2007-07-06 Thread Raymond Horton
dhbailey wrote: John Howell wrote: [snip] I think that may depend heavily on who, exactly, you're talking about in the '80s. Symphony trombonists, and those training them, may indeed have thought in those terms, but it's a cinch that people in early music were not, since most of us are

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th - now 19th century trombones

2007-07-06 Thread Raymond Horton
Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 11:39 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: The other interesting standard rep composer is Dvorak - quick - without looking: What kind of trombones did Dvorak write for? Didn't he write quite a bit for valve trombone? Or some kind of weird hybrid