Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

dc / 07.11.19 / 8:47 AM wrote: >1) fa natural >2) e natural >3) both >4) none #4 in my logic. I am answering without any knowledge of the style, hoping to win the prize by chance. :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA __

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

dc wrote: I have several disagreements with other editors on cautionary accidentals and would be interested in other opinions. What cautionary accidentals would seem appropriate in the alto part, m.5, of this piece, bearing in mind that it is for three (solo) voices (1610, if that makes any d

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On Mon, November 19, 2007 8:47 am, dc wrote: > What cautionary accidentals would seem appropriate in the alto part, m.5, > of this piece, bearing in mind that it is for three (solo) voices (1610, > if > that makes any difference): > > http://www.philomela.net/ex/deus.jpg > > 1) fa natural > 2) e na

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

It depends on how much rehearsal time you want to waste. I would put f-natural because of the nearly immediately preceding f#. I would be e-(nat) (that is, parenthesized natural) because of the cross relation in the lower part. (The parentheses are necessary because you are not canceling an altered

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On Nov 19, 2007, at 8:47 AM, dc wrote: I have several disagreements with other editors on cautionary accidentals and would be interested in other opinions. What cautionary accidentals would seem appropriate in the alto part, m.5, of this piece, bearing in mind that it is for three (solo)

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

dc wrote: I have several disagreements with other editors on cautionary accidentals and would be interested in other opinions. What cautionary accidentals would seem appropriate in the alto part, m.5, of this piece, bearing in mind that it is for three (solo) voices (1610, if that makes any

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Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

dc wrote: I have several disagreements with other editors on cautionary accidentals and would be interested in other opinions. What cautionary accidentals would seem appropriate in the alto part, m.5, of this piece, bearing in mind that it is for three (solo) voices (1610, if that makes any d

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On Mon, November 19, 2007 2:50 pm, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > In my view, it would depend upon the musical sophistication of the > likely users of the score. The more expert and familiar with early > music, the more one can omit both; the lower the level of > sophistication, the more necessary both

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Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Mon, November 19, 2007 2:50 pm, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: In my view, it would depend upon the musical sophistication of the likely users of the score. The more expert and familiar with early music, the more one can omit both; the lower the level of sophistication, t

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On 19 Nov 2007 at 15:26, Barbara Touburg wrote: > dc wrote: > > I have several disagreements with other editors on cautionary > > accidentals and would be interested in other opinions. > > > > What cautionary accidentals would seem appropriate in the alto part, > > m.5, of this piece, bearing i

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On 19 Nov 2007 at 9:30, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > On Mon, November 19, 2007 8:47 am, dc wrote: > > What cautionary accidentals would seem appropriate in the alto part, m.5, > > of this piece, bearing in mind that it is for three (solo) voices (1610, > > if > > that makes any difference): > > >

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On 19-Nov-07, at 4:25 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Mon, November 19, 2007 2:50 pm, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: In my view, it would depend upon the musical sophistication of the likely users of the score. The more expert and familiar with early music, the more one can omit both; the lower th

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

David W. Fenton wrote: On 19 Nov 2007 at 15:26, Barbara Touburg wrote: I agree -- I wouldn't add any cautionaries at all. It seems perfectly fine to me, a "problem" that shows up only when reading the score. That kind of mode shift is standard for the repertory and I don't think it would giv

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

I'd choose 1, f natural, without parentheses. This should remove any confusion or hesitation while sight-reading, especially considering that the barlines are dotted. I don't think it is necessary to draw attention to the false relation between e flat and e natural: this is a common feature

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On 19 Nov 2007 at 17:11, Michael Cook wrote: > I'd choose 1, f natural, without parentheses. This should remove any > confusion or hesitation while sight-reading, especially considering > that the barlines are dotted. But it's not in the original source, and putting in without parentheses i

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

Wow. There are so many different reasons to object to what is basically a reading aid little different from cleaning up the scribble and shortening the notes for modern tastes, the thing that's already happening in a new edition! Were there no editorial decisions beyond that? If there were editori

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On 19 Nov 2007 at 20:37, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > So what is expected? That the sophisticates want a skeletal version onto > which they can hang their ornamentational or chromatic laundry? And that > the non-sophisticates are given no guidance or suggestion? I voted for leaving the score as

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On Mon, November 19, 2007 9:05 pm, David W. Fenton wrote: > On 19 Nov 2007 at 20:37, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > >> So what is expected? That the sophisticates want a skeletal version onto >> which they can hang their ornamentational or chromatic laundry? And that >> the non-sophisticates are giv

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On 19 Nov 2007 at 21:31, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > On Mon, November 19, 2007 9:05 pm, David W. Fenton wrote: > > On 19 Nov 2007 at 20:37, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > > > >> So what is expected? That the sophisticates want a skeletal version onto > >> which they can hang their ornamentational

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

At 7:05 PM -0500 11/19/07, David W. Fenton wrote: On 19 Nov 2007 at 17:11, Michael Cook wrote: I'd choose 1, f natural, without parentheses. This should remove any confusion or hesitation while sight-reading, especially considering that the barlines are dotted. But it's not in the origina

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On 19 Nov 2007 at 22:18, John Howell wrote: > At 7:05 PM -0500 11/19/07, David W. Fenton wrote: > >On 19 Nov 2007 at 17:11, Michael Cook wrote: > > > >> I'd choose 1, f natural, without parentheses. This should remove any > >> confusion or hesitation while sight-reading, especially considering

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

I notice that Dennis Collins, who started this foodfight, has been mighty cagey about his own views. I'd like to hear 'em. -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/f

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

On Nov 19, 2007, at 7:40 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: If you omit a courtesy accidental, and if ever in any rehearsal a musician stops it to ask, "what is my note at blah-blah-blah", you should have added the courtesy acci. In a pro orchestra rehearsal that omitted acci could just possib

Re: [Finale] cautionary accidentals

David W. Fenton wrote: If you sing the notes that are clearly indicated on the page, it will come out correctly. That is true in any courtesy accidental situation. That is, hence, the reason they are "courtesy" and not "obligatory". In my experience, many performers in many situations are