Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On 30-Nov-07, at 3:44 PM, Giuliano Forghieri wrote: Something related: am I the only one that can't get smart shapes copied along with the rest of the music? If I copy by clicking and dragging they get copied, but if use ctrl- c or ctrl-shift-c then ctrl-v everything gets copied but smart

Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, November 30, 2007 8:46 am, Robert Patterson wrote: > The best workaround I know of is to use the Independent feature purely > for "Time Signature for Display" and to use invisibie tuplets to get > correct alignment and playback. This is an issue because I compose directly into Finale, espe

Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread Giuliano Forghieri
Thanks Robert, what you say is very interesting, and will probably help me sometimes in the future, especially spacing-wise. But, as far as I'm concerned, entering a lot of music as invisible tuplets is very annoying and slowing down, since I have to hit ctrl-(number) every time I enter a tupl

Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread Robert Patterson
This is a long-standing defect in Finale. (One of those they should have fixed years ago.) The best workaround I know of is to use the Independent feature purely for "Time Signature for Display" and to use invisibie tuplets to get correct alignment and playback. If you have already done a lot of w

Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread Giuliano Forghieri
Just checked---that works with smart shape hairpins, too. Thanks again, Hans, it's a very important workaround for me. Giuliano At 10.02 30/11/2007, Hans Swinnen wrote: Giuliano, I'm not sure about smart shapes, but copy-paste should work this way: - uncheck independent time sig in the source

Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread Hans Swinnen
Giuliano, I'm not sure about smart shapes, but copy-paste should work this way: - uncheck independent time sig in the source staff and don't worry about to few or to many beats in the measure(s); - copy; - check independent time again (for not to forget); - uncheck independent time sig in

Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Hi all, Can anybody replicate this problem and have a solution? I have a piece with simultaneous time signatures of 7/8, 7/8, 5/8, 3/4 and 4/4. I can't line up the smart shapes -- they won't allow placement in certain horizontal locations. For example, the bottom fo

Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread Jari Williamsson
Robert Patterson wrote: The best workaround I know of is to use the Independent feature purely for "Time Signature for Display" and to use invisibie tuplets to get correct alignment and playback. I don't get this, what's wrong with just write the music as it flows and use your beam over barl

Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread Giuliano Forghieri
Thanks Hans---cumbersome, but it works, I wonder whether something like that may be the solution to the smart shapes problem (uncheck indipendent time, adjust shape, then check IT again), I'm going to try it out. Oh, by the way: indipendent time can be applied as a staff style, I have found

Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread Jari Williamsson
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: I have a piece with simultaneous time signatures of 7/8, 7/8, 5/8, 3/4 and 4/4. I can't line up the smart shapes -- they won't allow placement in certain horizontal locations. It sounds like you use real time signatures (instead of time sig for display) for the inde

Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread Brian Williams
A quick fix: copy the measure you want to add smart shapes to a blank measure at the *end* of the document and add the smart shapes there, then copy it back. Apparently the bug you describe only happens when you try to edit smart shapes in measures that come before other measures but doesn't happen

Re: [Finale] Smart shape and different time sigs

2007-11-30 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Fri, November 30, 2007 8:46 am, Robert Patterson wrote: The best workaround I know of is to use the Independent feature purely for "Time Signature for Display" and to use invisibie tuplets to get correct alignment and playback. This is an issue because I compose